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beefytrout

I keep seeing people say it's weird the parents aren't out looking for him, or releasing public statements asking him to "come home", and that's one of the more baffling takes people have on this situation. First of all, he's not a victim here. He's been charged with one crime related to this case, and is very clearly the prime suspect in Gabby's death. There is no "come home" for him. It's "turn yourself in", and that would be a weird thing for parents to go to the media with. Secondly, the FBI is leading the search, and has a defined search area, based on the info they have - which is based in part on what the parents have told them. Even if the search area wasn't a massive swamp - which it is - the parents wouldn't need to be out there "looking for him", because the authorities have an established search area, and much better resources available to them.


Immaduck

Wow, sure you have all really gotten into the TFR, but lots of really good/interesting info in there https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_2893.html It'll be interesting to see if N129TV leaves the airspace, and if N118FW switches to this discrete squawk Edit: Looks like I barely caught it. Won't be saying where N118FW was, but appears that it has switched to a discrete squawk


heedlessly3

I get the feeling the swamp was a distraction


SuchGreatBoring

What will be interesting in retrospect is if they find him outside the reserve is how long he was in the reserve, if it all. I just have to assume they have some evidence he was there besides his parents saying hey look over there. He's clearly not sitting under a tarp relaxing right now, it would have been evident to him there's a search for with all the helicopters.


cadenceisclear

I can see many people now complaining about how they were wrong and that they want Megathread back. I, for one, never saw anything wrong with Megathread from the start. The mods were doing an excellent job keeping the content in check and still are.


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peterpan1371

I don’t want discussion! I want pure unfiltered mind vomit from 30k people at once!!!


betharooo

100/10 agree. I prefer this megathread format now too!


moldran

A lot of people here post: "Please stop with the search, hundreds of millions of our tax money are being wasted on that futile swamp search!!!" That's not how it works. The swamp tanks, K9-dogs, bloodhounds, helicopters, etc. would often be training if not required somewhere. And we would need to pay for the salaries of the involved people anyway. It's not like the swamp tanks take away from other cases where they would be needed right now. Even if they find nothing, this is better than any training they could do. This is a real case/search, and at this magnitude will provide a lot of findings - they can analyze how effective the usage of drones was, how to improve future searches, etc. Even if unsuccessful, these people will have learned something in how to better navigate through swamps and future searches. Please keep that in mind before you complain again about them being out there again today, in what seems to be just an expensive, hopeless effort on the first sight!


joannasforehead

Search and rescue missions are expensive, the fuel for the buggies, ATVs, and aircraft is going to be astronomical on it's owns without other costs added on. But you're right, it's necessary, even if they don't find anything. So I'm not sure why people would be whining.


Southernerd

The government is also expected to do their job when we're watching.


peterpan1371

We all screamed about bringing back posts and now all I want is MEGATHREAD


1000thusername

Yeah. It’s not easy to find where the latest comments are anymore


Cheddarmelon

Somehow the megathread format is less of a dumpsterfire than this


121193

I saw someone comment that he made a stop in Illinois. Does anyone know where? Google search turns up nothing.


SunrisePhoto

https://www.wfcnnews.com/Reports\_Laundrie\_credit\_card\_purchases\_linked\_to\_Benton,\_IL\_gas\_station.html


Noisy_Toy

In case anyone else had trouble with the link: https://www.wfcnnews.com/Reports_Laundrie_credit_card_purchases_linked_to_Benton,_IL_gas_station.html


Sopi619

Not sure where exactly, but I believe that is one of the states he used her card in, because the first time it was mentioned was from someone that worked at a gas station saying the FBI came in asking for video.


Mylifesuxxx

At this point, unless its released by the news or law enforcement, it's just gonna be hearsay and rumors or just straight up lies. Law enforcement get hundreds, even thousands of tips that lead nowhere. Those tips are just bleeding over onto social media now.


Noisy_Toy

The latest I found: https://www.wfcnnews.com/Reports_Laundrie_credit_card_purchases_linked_to_Benton,_IL_gas_station.html


Eyeh8snow

Benton Illinois, is where the debit card was used iirc


peterpan1371

Benton I believe. My source is refreshing this sub 500 times a day, no idea where I saw this info


nice2meetu86

WFLA states they are back out searching at the reserve https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1441384946069692424?s=20


NateDogTX

https://www.facebook.com/WFLANewsChannel8/videos/


__smokesletsgo__

Sending them good vibes that they find this loser today, DoA.


PrayingMantisMirage

TFR increased to 1200 ft too.


Eyeh8snow

they are live right now from the chopper


breadismybutterrr

Well, at least I'll have something to talk about while I'm getting my hair done today


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wow360dogescope

They've using these already and it's been mentioned many times. Please understand how large this reserve is, like anything else thermal imaging is a tool and not some sort of magic solution that will find him right away.


rehkemp2

They have confirmed that they have been.


Amdeb77

Is there a way to turn on notifications for a certain thread? Not knew to Reddit, just a dumbass! Also, sometimes I see a beige colored line between posts and I can click and more pop up, but not always. Why is that, and how can I change to view ALL posts? Thank you!


shhmurdashewrote

Yea if you are using the app (I’m on iPhone) there should be a little bell icon on top right. I believe you can also check your settings and make sure you receive alerts from subscribed posts


Amdeb77

Thank you so much!!!


luvmy374

Thanks for helping me out as well!


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comradekitty__

Not even just on camera. Brian’s neighbors said he saw them laughing and having a good time while they were working on the van. He said they seemed like a loving couple and there were no red flags. I know their friend said he was controlling or jealous. But I know a lot of people like that, who still seem like ok people, so it’s worrisome how any of these people can just snap one day.


jc21539

Well that's still something a lot of people have chosen to dismiss as a possibility but really cant be yet, not based on what the public knows - that we dont actually know that he just snapped. Its equally possible, maybe even more likely given their relationship history, that just like the tension increased between them over time, the violence in the particular incident that led to her death also increased gradually or in stages. We just dont know.


sonofalando

Hope your sneakers worked out!


comradekitty__

Unfortunately I didn’t get any recommendations. :( But I got used to being on my feet all the time. Also we’re fully staffed now so I’m not walking 5 miles everyday! I’d still like better sneakers though!


Daisyndae

People learn to imitate what they believe others want. It’s actually a sign of a few disorders. Acting instead of genuine feelings/demeanor. Take Ted Bundy for example....just a quick google search and someone said this about him. “He was a very nice person,” Bundy's friend Marlin Lee Vortman, whom he met through his work as a Republican activist, says in the documentary. “He was the kind of guy,” he said of the serial murderer of other people's sisters, “you'd want your sister to marry.”


jc21539

Why are you comparing Brian Laundrie to serial killers?


Daisyndae

I’m just giving an example of how someone can seem nice and gentle on camera, but physically dangerous off camera. As the person I replied to mentioned.


jc21539

Gabbys friends have said that Brian was nice sometimes off camera too, but they would have explosive fights. He was definitely controlling, and they both probably suffered from codependency...but I havent seen or read anything reliably sourced that indicates he is a psychopath. This was pretty "classic" domestic violence if there is such a thing.


Daisyndae

Yeah, unsure if he is or isn’t a psychopath, but there are actually a few disorders that have that trait. I don’t know if he does/doesn’t have a disorder. I was just saying that you can see someone as nice/gentle and it be them imitating it versus it being genuine. Especially in domestic violence situations. They know how to spin the narrative to gain control.


jc21539

Yeah, I'm not completely dismissing what you are saying. You are definitely correct to an extent, but in guess I'd say that we all try to mimick socially acceptable behavior and that's not necessarily abnormal. I just havent seen any evidence that he turned into a complete monster every time they were alone, or that he wasnt capable of real emotions.


jc21539

Truth is that virtually everybody has multiple aspects to their personalities, can act differently in different moods, etc. As an aside, you've also only seen a limited part of Gabby's personality too. From the reporting we have from people who knew them, Brian was sometimes an asshole but also sometimes a very loving person. It can be easier to shut out this reality to cope with the fact that loving people can act horrifically.


luvmy374

I’m that sort of soul as well. My narcissistic abusive ex had everyone fooled and I confused his control for love. I thought to myself “ my God he must really love me”. It took 8 years to wake up.


sonofalando

I’m sorry you went through that. I wish you fast healing.


GlassCloched

My guess is that you’ve been fortunate to have never suffered abuse. Reading up on covert narcissism would be a good starting point. This guy is a classic narcissist and many others have suggested psychopathy. It is messed up.


djdanal

Manipulators are very very very good at it


probablyuntrue

*google how far Bermuda triangle is from North Port*


comradekitty__

711 miles… not sure where you’re going with this.


RedheadedRebels

711 miles. 7 11. 7/11. He's at the gas station getting a big gulp! WE DID IT! *runs to the fbi*


Besthookerintown

711 is not a prime number, just sayin’


starcom_magnate

But you can get a Slurpee there.


comradekitty__

I’m so confused


Easywintergardening

I really hope this doesn’t go the way of Robert Fisher. That man is still on the top ten after 20 years of going into that forest.


Mister_Big__

Or his near namesake, Ronald Fischer, a serial rapist who absconded several days before sentencing in Rhode Island for another sexual assault, emailing his lawyer he was going overseas to live on the lam. He was older, wealthy, a yachtsman, world traveler, and a doctor who had lost his medical license after an earlier rape conviction. That was 2005. He was never heard from again and is still wanted. His successful flight from justice always creeped me out. But he had devious psycho criminal skills BL lacks.


horrornerd

That the dude that pooped right ?


Easywintergardening

Yea lol that’s why I wondered if they found a big melon poo


horrornerd

The last trace of him was poop . Like jesus man wtf!


cassbaggie

Oh man I've never heard of this. To be honest this guy seems a lot more capable than BL.


AtTheGates

Bet you also haven't heard of a 60 year old man who murdered his wife, his supposed girlfriend and her daughter back in 2017 and STILL hasn't been found. 60 years old. If he can get away, so can this kid. Although the difference is that this grandpa was a wilderness expert and pilot, but still.


horrornerd

Also Eugene Palmer


darkmagic133t

We need to AMD threaripper to analyze pictures


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Are they out searching the reserve yet? Can’t find anything online this morning about them continuing the search.


Afraid-Helicopter363

WFLA are live from a helicopter atm, there are LE setting up in the reserve to search today but doesn’t look like they’ve started yet


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luvmy374

Keeping my fingers crossed they interrogate the hell out of mom and pops. Like water boarding stuff.


oisact

Jessica Schultz stated on TT that she saw Brian parking the van on the 26th, and saw the van on other days during her stay through the 29th. I thought I specifically remember her saying she DIDN'T see the van still parked on the 29th, but now I can't find that information. Does anyone else remember or have info where Jessica Schultz said she did not see the van on the 29th? If she did not see it then that narrows down that BL moved the van from when the second person dropped him off a Spread Creak around 6:30 PM, and whenever Jessica Schultz drove by on the 29th and did not see it.


osuisok

This is her response when someone asked her the last time she saw the van. @jessica.over.yonder:For sure the 28th. Not sure if it was there when we left to take photos before sunrise on the 29, but it was gone for sure by 11am.


oisact

If she remembers right, then this doesn't make a lot of sense and opens a whole new hole in their movements. The van would have been parked from the 26th to late 28th or early 29th. Then Brian drove the van early on the 29th to somewhere else in Spread Creek. Then he left the van and hiked around, then hitchhiked with a couple people back to Spread Creek, and then when he got back to the van left for FL. So where else was the van moved to on the 29th for several hours? I think it's nearly a certainty that whatever happened to Gabby happened while the van was parked in that original place at Spread Creek, because her body was found 900 feet away across the river.


osuisok

I didn’t think about it like this but it seems super important. Jessica says the van is gone morning of the 29th and the people who picked him up hitchhiking put him back in spread creek the evening of the 29th. I wonder what this means.


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PrayingMantisMirage

He was spotted at a gas station in Jackson the night of the 29th. And Illinois is not a detour, it's directly on the way.


osuisok

If you’re talking about the possible cc use in Benton, IL - that’s directly on the route from GTNP to North Port FL according to my phone.


fatallyblonde

For some reason her story doesn't sit right with me. It's very vague and could be pieced together using other information. She seems to really be trying to capitalize on it also.


an_aviary_forever

She says she saw it on the 26th-28th, but [doesn’t recall seeing it on the 29th.](https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Gabby-Petito-case-What-one-witness-saw-near-the-16474626.php)


Eyeh8snow

liked it a lot better when new posts were locked...


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Eyeh8snow

Mods are doing a damn good job , that is definitely not the problem imho


probablyashlyn

UUUGGHHH GOD DAMMIT BRIAN I HAVE SHIT TO DO


AthenaArcos

I'm behind on 3 papers!


starcom_magnate

If this is true, you need to step away. There is absolutely 0 reason you should be neglecting your personal wellness, education, or health for this. If so, that is a serious sign of addiction (and you can be addicted to news coverage). Turn everything off and concentrate on yourself. If he is found it will be the top headline, and does it really matter if you read that headline the 1st time it is posted, or 2 hours later? Seriously...go take care of yourself.


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starcom_magnate

Go ahead and study. If he's found it will be breaking news everywhere. You don't need to be the first to hear about it.


wow360dogescope

People want to know the minute he's caught. They don't realize that if they turn off the Reddit machine and have breaking news alerts they'll find out at the same time anyway.


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hereforlaughs20

Can’t stop. Won’t stop.


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radkar83

Oh come on! Still nothing?


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mberrong

Are you BL in disguise?


s2ample

“I am in a position to know” was such a concise way to discredit yourself.


ToxicDM

What position? Sex position? Like how are you going to make a remark like that. We all want to find this POS, but making statements like that for sure don't help. Someone with any position wouldn't do that.


chicametipo

Anybody in the position to know likely wouldn’t spill the investigative beans on Reddit.


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peterpan1371

"Who's in charge of the scene? Why not have the bureau out there in charge of the scene?" he said. "Because the bureau doesn't believe he's in the swamp." Is this saying that FBI is not part of the search at the reserve? It’s just local law enforcement?


Pm_me_ur_dealbreaker

Sure lets believe the random redditor who takes ivermectin over a professional.


lameohhh

Ambiguous flex, dude.


Taskmaster112

Are you in a mechanic position?


SeirraS9

Spill the beans 😂


NOTkristenstewart

So…. What is true?


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they have no leads and brians literally just vanished


Taskmaster112

Do you think if north port police find Brian they will take him back home and drop him off?


horrornerd

Probably put him in an unlocked cell .


JustSatisfactory

Did you miss the arrest warrant update?


Taskmaster112

No just trying to use nppd logic


Badpoozie

Umm, no. He has a federal warrant out for his arrest. The first place he goes may be the hospital but after that it’s straight to to the police station.


Taskmaster112

True but don't forget to use nppd logic. I could see them taking him home and the fbi clean their mess again


Badpoozie

They definitely won’t. For one they’ve put in all this time and expended a shit ton of resources digging through a swamp for days. And, another is why would they? What motivation do they have? It’s not like they live in some good ol’ boy southern town and Brian’s pappy is the local magistrate judge, city councilman, and mayor. They have no obligation to the Laundries and no motivation to cover for Brian while risking their own jobs and freedom. If they see him, they will arrest him. Plus, the FBI is leading the investigation. They will have the police scanners monitored and a foot in all of the searching. Feds tend to look down on local LE to begin with, they aren’t going to take any chances of some hillbilly cop bungling such a high-profile case.


SeirraS9

Take him right to his new home, inside of a jail cell.


AthenaArcos

The beauty of this, no judge would grant him bail, he's already a proven flight risk.


ginjrr

This case has had me thinking about our legal process. Like in general, this comment is in no way specific to this case. Just looking to hear other's thoughts on this. Criminals get away with things all the time, truly innocent people also end up in jail. If we somehow changed some rules so that more criminals would actually get convicted, would a higher percentage of innocent people end up in jail? Would that be worth it? I know it depends on what changes but this trade off is surely a result to some extent. OR is the system better if we focus on preventing wrongful conviction, which might also decrease real criminal convictions? Example, in Japan their system has higher conviction rates, something like 99% but it's argued that a higher % truly innocent folks are wrongly convicted. You are basically fucked if you get arrested there. Do cops in Japan really get things right 99% of the time? With all due respect, I doubt it. Should we be willing to take one for the team and help ensure more criminals end up in jail OR should we be willing to accept more criminals going free to protect innocent people?


purposeful-hubris

No. As someone who works in the criminal justice system, I believe in [Blackstone’s Ratio](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio)


ginjrr

Hey, thank you for that link, exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to learn about! I've never heard of Blaclstones ratio, which is more in line with my thinking. I'll bet that Japan and similar cultures have something like this but the other way around. Individual protection doesn't benefit the entire society as a unit, vs protecting society at the expense of the individual. While I agree with protecting the individual, I don't think the other way is wrong, just different.