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sunzusunzusunzusunzu

I can only sticky my own comment. Here is the link to the youtube channel: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBp3aNAGuFM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBp3aNAGuFM)


Crisgocentipede

Credible. Good story here https://nbc-2.com/news/gabby-petito-coverage/2021/09/22/sleuths-and-bogus-tips-slow-down-the-real-investigators-in-brian-laundrie-search/


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I haven’t seen anyone entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe, there was an accident and she fell, but Brian knew it would look sketchy? Or also the idea that he just kicked her out the van and abandoned her and she died of exposure, etc? But yea probably just killed her in a rage eh


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cboski

Dude, I know it’s open to the public again..BUT WHY ARE YOU TOUCHING EVIDENCEEEEEEE


[deleted]

Tell us you’re not a woman without telling us you’re not a woman 🙄😐


wickedspoon

Gender biased much? You should watch Clickbait on Netflix. I can see you being the target demographic.


[deleted]

Gender biased 😂 go check the stats bud, they speak for themselves. Why would I be interested in some fake sob story about a guy getting kidnapped when what myself and other women have to face in real life is more crazy and scary than any movies you watch? Nice attempt, I see what you tried but yeah, big ol flopper. 🤭🤫🤫


wickedspoon

Look im just going to assume you’re going through some shit in your life if you’re that butt hurt, so I’ll just leave you be. I know you through a few comments on Reddit and I can already tell. Oof.


Cedarandwhiskey

Was thinking the same thing.


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You’re a dude, right?


wickedspoon

Oh wow. Still going after that?


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Pahaha what’s it like being an incel? Yowch


Cr00ked-Campbell

What’s it like being blinded by hate/depression? Do I need to have Reddit help reach out to you? Lol incel, lol you don’t even know me you ignorant ass.


fluffyinari

I don't see why that would matter, he would still be responsible for her death. Weird thing to defend.


OneExplorer

He wasn’t defending him. Suggesting all possible scenarios is just that, nothing more, nothing less.


_yck

Unrelated but reading this at 11:40 and this screenshot also saying 11:40 really fucked with my head just now


ThisisLarn

Woah I am also reading this at 11:40 and just has the same experience lol


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pectinate_line

Which video shows the door open. The one from that YouTube vlog? I’ve watched it a number of times and I don’t see that or the flip flops or book or any of the things people are saying are in it. Edit: nvm I see it now


jessalynroussin

What’s crazy is that the slowed video shows the door open and then close. And her sandals are outside the van in the ground. Almost as if the door closes as a vehicle approached. So if someone was in the van, with her sandals, was this gabby? And then how did she end up dead? Was it suicide? And then Brian didn’t want to look guilty so he left her and fled? It’s so haunting what the real story is.. maybe he now committed suicide because he felt so guilty?


BTth3real

Plot twist - Gabby s flip flops were white. See aug 12 videos.


Washuman

I have watched and re watched that video so many times and I do not see any door open and then closed. What I see is the ladder with all doors closed.


pull_a_sickie

Before the camera car approaches the van, the left hand side rear door of that van starts off ajar (it swings outwards, so there’s a slight gap that can be seen in the videos near the centre rear of the van), the gap closes (either by wind or human hands unseen on the other side of the door) by the time the camera car approaches closer to make out that the van fits the description of Gabby’s van.


TesticularButtBruise

I had trouble seeing this at first too. There's a bug or something on the lens which makes it a bit harder to see, and I had to put it on full screen to really be sure. If you pause it at 1m 30s, it does indeed appear to be slightly ajar. Play it from that point, at 1m 34s it appears to open a little bit more, and then at 1m 36s it shuts. It \*definitely\* isn't the ladder, it's further left. And you can see the ladder in the rest of the video anyway. The door is clearly open, and gets pulled shut.


Swirloreo

The sandals being right at back doors makes me think he took them off before getting in the van. When they got pulled over days before Gabby talks about how he gets dirt in the van, so he probably took them off. So maybe she was still alive when this video was shot.


MadMaxMars

I’m not sure if if this is the appropriate place to post this. This is a video reply to RockAlot where I analyzed the front view of her van in depth. It really looks to me like she was sitting on the passenger's seat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgqffV997E I could be totally wrong but please let me know what you think in the comments.


AdSubject809

Wasn’t it posted on here, a pic or video, where he could possibly be seen in the front seat?


1985portland1985

There’s video that shows the back door closing as the van pulls up on him and this looks like him looking out from behind the front passenger seat as the van goes by.


AdSubject809

I thought I saw him in the driver’s seat in one of the pics from the video. It looked like him in a white T-shirt and white hat.


1985portland1985

Not sure, I’m kinda confused about it. I don’t understand how they got that angle looking at the window 🤷🏼‍♂️


AdSubject809

I’m not seeing what some people are seeing in the back of the van, but I can almost see somebody sitting in the driver’s seat (which looks more like him in a white hat and white T-shirt) and what looks like her backpack in the passenger seat.


Umpalumpz

https://twitter.com/3\_bb8/status/1439838231202177031?s=20


wandalay

I thought I saw something else in the windshield view, but when I saw that face my body went whoooosh holy fuck


[deleted]

Anyone else notice what looks like a face baring teeth in the frames immediately following the face frames?


Somethingwittyidk2

Its down


Umpalumpz

Hmm, for me it's working


Somethingwittyidk2

It probs just doesnt like something on my setup


smilingbuddhauk

It's not working for me either


JaeRaeSays

For all those asking about the van door being open, the sandals, etc...here is a great vid that breaks it down frame by frame. You definitely want to watch it on a larger device if at all possible, but I was able to see it just fine going full screen on my 6" cell phone screen. https://youtu.be/jl6nnNfMaJs


F1Addicted

Wow....I definitely see that door closing now. I had said that I thought I saw a dark figure in the field on the left at around 1:30. It could have been anything, but without the quality of video and the tools you use it's hard for me to tell.


Wordwench

Her hat on the dash. 😞


probablycheese

Watching the enhanced video of the clip showing someone closing the back door of the van as the family drives up literally brings tears to my eyes. Absolutely chilling.


Juicy_Brucesky

> Absolutely chilling. A door on a van being closed is absolutely chilling?


ColorfulFlowers

It’s chilling to know what was about to happen. This entire case is chilling. Don’t be an ass, you know what they meant.


BabaYagaInYoFace

People like to make situations like this about themselves.


[deleted]

Right. It’s sad what happened to Gabby but the door closing has zero significance.


bloodofkerenza

This is the only time in all the pics of the van that I've seen the wheels muddy. Probably insignificant, but noticeable.


wackadoodlepoo

Her sandal is on the ground too.


Virtual-Nectarine-59

they are his sandals, if you rewatch video when they were both pulled over by police towards the end you see Brian wearing those dusty sandals.


Crazy_Vermicelli_636

Both are if you zoom it’s kinda hidden


sushi_girl_

Where


ilovemesomebeans

Near the back of the van just below the ladder


Secure-Kitchen-8541

My question is… what was the hitchhiking all about?? I need to understand how that all plays into this. Why did he leave the van and then hitchhike back to it??


laurainasia

I think he killed her after they reunited from getting split up by police on Aug 12, he then dumped her body somewhere, dropped the van off too to maybe use the backpacking as an alibi for if police find her body while he’s backpacking he can say she was blogging solo with the van while he was backpacking solo, but then he might’ve changed his mind and headed back to the van to gtfo and his shitty parents are now helping him escape.


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Your comment is a great example why people’s opinion online shouldn’t be taken seriously.


SPINE_BUST_ME_ARN

She face timed with her mother in late August, I believe the 25th. Body was also found about 900 feet away from where the van was parked for several days, in the Grand Tetons.


laurainasia

Okay, so he killed her after Aug 25th and started his hitchhiking jaunt then backtracked back to the van since he and the van ended up back home at his mommy & daddy’s house in FL.


SPINE_BUST_ME_ARN

The timeline everyone is going off has her alive on the 27th, making plans with a friend to meet in Yellowstone on the 29th. If that’s true, she would have died sometime between the evening of the 27th, and most likely the evening of the 29th.


thoseradstars

Yep. The last time that her cell phone was turned on was the 27th. I live in Florida and just read the search warrant for the computer in the van. https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/state-of-fl-search-warrant-2021-sw000442nc-09-17-2021-1632165383.pdf


ZestyBiscotti

I’m wondering if it’s possible that perhaps Brian intended on leaving the van with Gabby and hitchhiking his way back, but after trying and winding up going in the wrong direction maybe he went back to the campsite for the van and drove it back to Florida?


chefontheloose

Umm, he went back for HER van and went home without her?


ZestyBiscotti

Yes. This is under the assumption that Gabby would have been deceased by that point. Brian seemed to have a real attachment to the van, seeming to see it just as much his as it was hers. He even added bumper stickers to the van while driving it back to FL, which would have been likely after Gabby was already gone. I think he thought about ditching the van, perhaps trying to form some sort of alibi that maybe she kicked him out and he had to hitchhike back, but when that didn’t work out he decided to go back and get the van and drive it home without her. Just a theory, but doesn’t seem too much of a stretch.


KickapooPonies

I am just recently getting into this but I just watched his van build out on Instagram stories and he used the phrase "just some ibis checking in on my van build."


SapientChaos

This.


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Former_Reindeer_512

No sir.. That lady had time stamps ngps location the feds looked over n used.. He def hitch hiked.y? Not sure.. Had to of been to get cleaned up from wat he had done to her..


1985portland1985

That’s not really conclusive. Ngps doesn’t prove he was in the car hitchhiking and the feds are going to follow up on any reasonable lead, but not every lead is relevant. I get what you’re saying though, if gps shows her in and around that area it could be plausible.


putabikeonit

Gabby’s mother has said that the hitchhike timeline does not match up. The van was on the way back home on the 29th.


wandalay

I haven’t seen this! Do you have a link?


Journey4th

Yeah. The hitchhiker said she picked him up at 5:30 pm on the 29th. I guess he could have driven all that way in those 2-3 days


putabikeonit

The way the mother spoke about it… I’m assuming the police downloaded all the info from the van. (I’m not sure what all info is recorded on onboard computer…Anyone know? I’m pretty sure the Mother would not be so adamant unless she had some hard Intel.


SPINE_BUST_ME_ARN

Even if he left an hour or two after the hitchhiking scenario, he could have easily made it back by Sept 1. It would suck, yes, but it’s very possible. Especially if you have a good reason to get that drive over with.


jadedflux

Definitely agreed. I've driven from NYC to Southeastern Idaho in about 2 days by myself. That was with rest stops to catch sleep. It's most definitely possible to make the drive from Grand Tetons to Florida in that timeframe. Even easier if you're trying to put distance between you and something heinous you've done, I'd imagine.


RDogPoundK

It’s possible I’ve driven further in less time


SpiritualTalk3454

Does she really know the timelines—-she does not say anywhere that “gabbys van was driving home on august 29th. No one knows.


putabikeonit

I’m assuming they have info downloaded from the onboard computer.


smokealottapot2001

Here is a 4K video of the van, you can see things more clearly! [4K Video Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMbpMj6P0s)


ndillaa95

I read in a Facebook post that someone noticed you can see someone digging to the left just before they get to the van


M4SixString

It's at about 1:44. To me it just looks like a bush and not moving. Also other redditors have already confirmed the body was found 900 feet from the van spot and across a river. Which what's in the video is definitely not that far away. It doesn't add up. The theory that door is closing makes more sense.


Juicy_Brucesky

Yea I think that's a case where people are trying way too hard to see something they want to see


Doova1980

I’m not even sure the door closes, can you tell?


smokealottapot2001

I can definitely see where people are getting the idea that the door closes which i can see pretty clearly, but we do also have to take in consideration that it could be a shadow of something, or even the black ladder that's behind the van.


DrFarce

It 100% closes. Watch it on 4K on a large monitor/TV from 1:25 and up on the slowest speed. It’s clear as day that it closes.


slinky317

Yeah it definitely closes at about 1:35


M4SixString

Just watched it on my 4k tv and I totally agree. Nothing is going in and out of focus as people are saying. The whole scene is actually perfectly in focus. The shadowy figure in the field is also definitely not a person. Its a dark track in the ground. It's actually more likely that it's his tire tracks if he really did drive out there. In the little ditch next to the van you get a much clearer version on the tv and it does look like someone drive out into the field. There's tracks. Could just be 4 wheeler tracks but still. Point is its alot clearer on a tv and in 4k


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I agree. I was doubtful at first too but in the slowed down version it is clearly a door closing.


DrFarce

Same. I watched it like 30 times on my phone and thought people were just reaching. Then I played it on my iMac and just the first time around, I realized they were 100% right.


mls0716

Same! And it’s clear enough to screenshot the video of the van ahead and then zoom into the back door to see it open!! I thought it was a reach, too! And saw an “enhanced” video on Twitter and thought they used photoshop but nope! It’s clear as day!


CurvySexretLady

Finally saw it myself in 4k @ the 1:36 timestamp. Thought it was the ladder at first, but you can't see the ladder yet. Looks like the left door is partially opened, and then it is closed. Any idea if that is Gabby or Brian inside? or both? EDIT: Here someone slowed it down and zoomed in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ywdAgB36Ds


mls0716

Me too! I thought maybe it was the ladder or maybe a tree that was in front of it that shifted as the bus drove.. but the bus never changed angles from the van and, like you said, you couldn’t even see the ladder yet.


MysteriousRespect808

radical! crime solvers


Dgb_iii

People saying the van door closed are gullible or lying lol. That entire region of the video is blurry for some reason, throughout almost the whole video. It’s the ladder coming in and out of focus from a distance. Also Jesus Christ there is no person in the video. It’s a land mass and a shadow. I remember being 13 too.


1985portland1985

There’s enhanced video that will change your mind


Umpalumpz

I was in the same boat with you but now i saw 4k video is released and did same thing as yesterday. Theres a point where bus heading straight at the van, no shadows, no obstructions, trees and so on, and you can clearly see the door is approx. 30 degree angle and then it closes when bus is approaching on a dusty road. And when it passes, it's also clearly visible that the rear right door is on the latched position, not fully closed. I've watched this on tablet and 60 inch flat screen and later also frame by frame, both have high pixel density screens, especially on tablet. And for those who see a digging figure on the left, stop doing weed for a while. It's just a shadow of some rocky corners or a old log or something because if you watch satellite photos, you can see they are all over the place.


M4SixString

Have you watched the 4k version? I'm not so sure. First the ladder is very thin looking even when they are only like ten feet away.. much closer and many seconds after the door supposedly closes. It seems like it would barely even be possible to see the ladder from the distance they were at when the door closes. Also the ladder part of the van seems to be blocked by the tree. By what youre saying it's far more possible it's the tree coming into focus. Not the ladder. The thing is its an almost pure black strip that disappears. Which that black strip could easily be the inside of the van. The tree isn't exactly black. It also happens at a speed that seems like a person closing a door.


jenniferfox98

Seriously, the online obsession over this is just cringey, reminiscent of the Boston Bomber era. They need to just let the damn professionals do their job and stop acting like they're some expert cause they listen to one of the dozens of mediocre and reductive true crime podcasts or shows. These people need to literally go outside and touch grass, it might help them understand why that definitely isn't a human being digging in the video.


RDogPoundK

I often camp in dispersed camping like this and the video shows lots of trailers there. Although it looks remote, these campsites have lots of traffic especially late summer. There is no way to kill somebody or store a body in/near the van without somebody seeing. I’m sure the YouTuber was one of 10 drivers that hour. They just happened to have a 4K camera.


SPINE_BUST_ME_ARN

He could have pretty easily drug her out there in the middle of the night. But yeah, would be pretty much impossible during the day. That area is pretty wide open, and I’m sure there were a decent amount of people around during the day.


Dgb_iii

>These people need to literally go outside and touch grass, it might help them understand why that definitely isn't a human being digging in the video. Right? I had to really jump through hoops and be charitable to even find what they might be talking about.


Photoninja7

I died at "touch grass" 🤣.


jenniferfox98

Seems others didn't, bunch of salty MFers downvoted me a lot lol.


SnooMacaroons5473

It looks like their is someone in the field in a black shirt


OrangeFury1

No, there is not a person. I have seen many many comments creating false rumors, 1. there is a man by the road holding a shovel, 1:38 (which there isn't, its clearly a shadow made by two trees) and 2. there is someone digging in the field 1:47 (which there isn't, its a creek, ditch, land mass of some sort). [Raw Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMbpMj6P0s&ab_channel=RedWhite%26Bethune) People need to stop, this is how miscommunications, false information spreads.


Robangles

This is Reddit dumbass, people can say whatever they want. If they want to speculate, it's their choice. You look worse than they do up on your ivory tower.


JayRam85

People saying what they want is exactly how false rumors spread. How you don't see that, is beyond me.


2SweetHeat

You were probably one of the redditors who made that dude kill himself after the Boston bombing.


franniebananie

imagine name-calling because someone is correcting misinformation and suggesting that people need to be more careful about speculation. ask salah barhoun or the family of sunil tripathi how they feel about your god given right to be wrong on the internet. also, ivory tower does not mean what you think it means. maybe you should refrain calling other people dumbass.


ToastyBeetz

https://imgur.com/a/eMpn3ch here’s the face in the passenger seat of the van from the video next to Bryan’s parents photo.. kinda resembles the morher


nathan4122

Where? I no see 0.0


thatothersheepgirl

[Here](https://imgur.com/a/1dkGs2a) is a slowed down version where I saw it.


OrangeFury1

There is nothing there. Watch the new video posted by the bloggers.


nathan4122

Wow, thats haunting..


smokealottapot2001

I can see her sandals there behind the van!!


SnooMacaroons5473

Those appear to be the same sandals she had in the police video


badOctopus42

Good eye. I wonder if those are his sandals; they look like the classic American Eagle dude flip flop. And I wonder if he took them off to keep from getting mud or blood or other evidence of his whereabouts on them while he carried her body back there somewhere. Edit: just skimmed over the police cam again. Soon after the 5 min mark he walks over and you can see him wearing* flip flops that look like these.


smokealottapot2001

This is what i believe. I think before the Bethune's were approaching the van Brian was sitting outside reading a book and as the Bethune's were approaching he went into the van and quietly shut the back door which u can see happen, which made him leave his sandals and book outside on the floor


I_only_read_trash

He doesn't like wearing shoes in general, so it makes sense they'd be lying around.


JordanRaven

I can see only one. There are also two objects near the left corner, a book, I think, and something like a cylinder on top of the book.


khowey76

A book and a phone...? The way the light is hitting it looks like it's reflecting.


JordanRaven

It doesn't look like a phone. More like a flashlight or a mic.


Hanner12

I just zoomed in and now that's all I can focus on :(


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It’s gabby they found!


ebann001

The same Blogger also had a camera capturing from the side window. Here's the contents of the front of the van from that camera as they were passing by. Looks like gabby's backpack on the driver seat. Had a bunch of other stuff in the front seats. So creepy. This definitely looks like the location where he at least dragged her out to the beach that evening and cross the river where she was found ​ [Van Front](https://imgur.com/a/jNTtRVK)


M_cuz

Where can we view the side cam footage?


ebann001

[here](https://youtu.be/hnMbpMj6P0s) The first half of the video is the front camera, and the second half of the video is the side camera


Anglomerican

Just before the Bethune's reach Petito's van, it looks as if two small trees or logs have been intentionally placed leading away from the van into the creek area. Could have been done prior to the van arriving, or might have been done to make it easier and quicker to move a heavy object down the creek bank. https://imgur.com/a/4kY8PW2


Haunting_Assist_9160

SLOWED DOWN VIDEO SHOWING THAT SOMEONE CLOSED THE DOOR WHILE THEY DROVE PASSED https://youtu.be/-ywdAgB36Ds


EttaGnome

So here's another possibility with the door closing theory. Obviously people are looking at this as something sinister, and it very well could be, BUT it could also be that Gabby herself was alive and closing the door. Maybe she was changing at the time and pulled the door closed because she wasn't decent. There appear to be flip flops on the ground that could be hers and also a book near the rear of the van. Right now we honestly don't know.


Haunting_Assist_9160

Considering that her messages and social activity still seemed normal on the 27th, this is very likely. It does confirm that someone was with the van on the 27th which does rule out some possibilities. The 28th still seems the day that something went very wrong.


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Oh wow I see the door close now


jumpingrunt

Damn that’s fucked


ToastyBeetz

https://imgur.com/a/eMpn3ch here’s the face in the van next to Bryan’s parents photo. Almost resembles the mom. Idk..


hafetysazard

What the hell are you talking about?


throwawayscaredx

Not sure why this was so jarring and creepy to watch but an excellent find, good catch.


vanillafromspace

This is insane!!!!! He was in there!!! Likely got back to the van as they pulled up since her stuff was already on the ground.


Price-Override

Creepy as hell indeed.


Lacrewpandora

Wow...that's a huge data point.


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OrangeFury1

That is not a person. Its a ditch, creek, land mass of some sort If you watch their new raw video is extremely clear that is isn't a person.


teebpix

I think you're right. My mistake.


Apprehensive_Bet_544

I see it, look farther left, between the trees way out in that field as they approach the van.


Techwood111

Do you have the time right? I sure don't see anything. Screen shot?


thatothersheepgirl

[Here](https://imgur.com/a/1dkGs2a)


Crinklytoes

Doubtful that any human would be doing anything other than Fly fishing in a Wyoming Creek. Or perhaps that's a Moose you're describing? Several deep tire marks appear on the left-side in between the road and creek as if that vehicle became stuck next to the river more than a few times. Someone was angrily stuck and unstuck a few times also indicated by those mud covered tires, I'm surprised that engine didn't overheat into a dead stop at that altitude


Hackedup_forbbq

"angrily stuck and unstuck" jeez detective any clues on Hoffa?


Ambitious_Camel_2486

Sorry, don't have the link but the person on Twitter who enhanced these videos showed that what looks like a person is actually part of the landscape/Creek.


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Ambitious_Camel_2486

Saw it moving too, but it is definitely the Creek or landscape and not a person. Body was also buried in the trees way across the creek, so it doesn't make sense


teebpix

I swore I saw a shape there. I was wrong.


ebann001

Watching the video thoroughly frame-by-frame I can determine based on the trees and the turns in the road the van is exactly at 43°46'32.8"N 110°29'54.8"W


badOctopus42

Good bot


ebann001

OK not frame by frame. But in slow motion split screen :-) only takes about a minute.


badOctopus42

Very cool. I would not have known how to do that.


ebann001

Its in the options in every YouTube vid. [how to change playback speed](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/702364/how-to-speed-up-youtubes-playback-speed-or-slow-it-down/amp/)


badOctopus42

Thank you, but I meant I wouldn't have known how to determine the coordinates.


WhyNotCollegeBoard

Are you sure about that? Because I am 99.99968% sure that ebann001 is not a bot. --- ^(I am a neural network being trained to detect spammers | Summon me with !isbot |) ^(/r/spambotdetector |) [^(Optout)](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=whynotcollegeboard&subject=!optout&message=!optout) ^(|) [^(Original Github)](https://github.com/SM-Wistful/BotDetection-Algorithm)


somethingisnotwight

[https://icones8.fr/upscaler](https://icones8.fr/upscaler) I feel like this tool will prove most useful when upscaling images of 1080P.


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Assjols

Guy on Twitter did https://twitter.com/brent_shavnore/status/1439744089524772866?s=21


jesuisdiva

I just went to the actual couples footage and zoomed in and I don’t see it the way this is edited. It looks like a dark line that is actually the side of the van in a shadow before the couples car turns again.


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jhansen9213

>43°46'32.8"N 110°29'54.8"W Yeah, I think something related the [terrain](https://imgur.com/a/3wJDBCn), not a person. Using the location people have shared of the van you can see stuff in the google maps terrain view that seems to match up what people are claiming is a person on the video.


SnooMacaroons5473

Ok. So this is exactly what I thought. It definitely looks like a guy out there. So the door closes and her shoes are outside. Could it be she was still alive at this point and he was just wandering ?


Juicy_Brucesky

>So this is exactly what I thought. Also known as confirmation bias. That is not a person


[deleted]

It’s all assumptions at this point, for me it looks like a person, not “part of a tree”, nor “shadows”


KarAccidentTowns

I concluded that this shape is a land formation of some sort casting a shadow. And after looking at some of the enhanced videos, it's pretty clear someone closed the back door of the van as they heard a vehicle approaching.


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I’m sure will find out in the coming weeks whenever these videos with professional enhancements come up on the news; but to me, that “shadow”, still keeps a constant shape as they pass it, you walk or drive by a shadow, it will change, this didn’t