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What should we call Male Karens? Darrens?

What should we call Male Karens? Darrens?

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Platipus6

Jaren. It's always a J name 😂


HereForTheFreeFoodOk

Brian. I like Brian because Brians are always non-descript and boring. And always - *always* \- have an inferiority complex.


CilantroSucksButts

Most problematic men I've experienced first hand and heard of secondhand are Brian's and especially Brion's.


Jaelismyhomegirl

Been true for every Brian i’ve met.


lostmillenia

This


HereForTheFreeFoodOk

Men are the biggest "Karens" in real life too. They relish in punish and humiliating women who offend their genteel sensibilities. They truly are the emotional sex


karabnp

As a white lady, when the term “Karen” is rightfully used when referencing one who is straight up terrorizing customer service/staff with their “grievances”, (Essentially petty/non-issues made into issues.😏🙄) or worst yet, using your whiteness as a means to target/harass/harm POCs, I have absolutely NO issue with that term being *rightfully* used. Yet, for a while now, we’ve entered the territory of any woman who has an issue, legitimate complaint/grievance, and/or speaks up and calls someone or something out that *really does* need to be addressed, “Karen” is all too often quickly used to shut up/shut down women, and THAT is when the “Karen” term is misused and becomes problematic. Sadly, the misuse of the term, *is harming* rightfully addressing the behavior it originally was intended to call out, - clumping any woman who dares to rightfully and legitimately “complain” and speak up about something, into the “Karen” group. Please, *for the love of GOD*, only use this term for the original and intended use/behavior it NEEDS to address/call out!!🤦🏼‍♀️ Also, I feel *really badly* for all the women in the world of all colors, who are actually named Karen.💔 To have your name referenced to something so awful and negative, has got to really s*uck.😕 And for those actually named Felicia, too.💔


ms_monquis

It's 100% being used to shut women up.


karabnp

EXACTLY. Weaponized in it’s misuse.😏 What a surprise.🙄


inlovewithaloser

DYING— and I thought they were called Kevin’s lol


lvioletsnow

Kevins are men that are simply dumber than can be believed is humanly possible. There's a subreddit for it. I think it's "storiesaboutkevin".


aluriaphin

As a daughter of a NV Kevin I FIRMLY believe basically every Kevin in existence is trash and I support this 1000% lmao


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TheOGJammies

“Standing up for yourself” does not a “Karen” make - Karens got their name from harassing POC and needlessly antagonizing service workers and it is well documented and well deserved.


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CountingDownTheDays5

Because upon white men getting a hold of the word they began to reference it to every woman. Often things coined, created, and displayed by people of color is taken via white people. Another example of this but not as big of a deal is the Harlem shake. That stupid ish white people do in the middle of the dance floor acting foolish is not the Harlem shake. The Harlem shake was a street dance created by black people. But it was change and the original is lost and hard to find and just in case you guys are curious because I know most of the people who aren't black don't know what what the real Harlem shake is [here you go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdeu5aGwwWI)


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TheOGJammies

Accountability is not hate


TheOGJammies

Because some women are assholes and use customer service as their personal punching bags


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REMEMBER: Karens start shit out of nowhere. Did you? No? NOT a Karen Karens make unreasonable and/or irrational demands and lack situational awareness. Did you? No. NOT a Karen. Karens call people names. Did you? NOT a Karen Karens threaten to/pretend to/call the police. Did you? No. NOT a Karen Karens are somehow often flabby, middle-age, midde-class, powerless and resentful Are you? I bet not. NOT a Karen Anybody calling you a Karen deserves an immediate and hearty FUCK YOU RANDY


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TheOGJammies

Okay - so take it up with misogynists for their misuse, but what you’re not going to do is gaslight and antagonize POC out of describing their very real racialized abuse and make yourself the ultimate victim at everyone else’s expense, once again.


discoveringliberty

But that's a different context, as Jammies said above the women you describe aren't actually Karens. To say that it's offensive for the term Karen to ever be used is to say that the meaning that white men have given it is more important than the original meaning that black women had for it. We can reject the way in which white men have co-opted it to silence women without abandoning the original meaning. There are some horrible videos of white women harrassing black people for just existing outside, and that is behaviour that absolutely should be acknowledged and can be given a descriptive term, the same way we call lvm scrotes


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TheOGJammies

I mean we have different terms for men like asshole, dick, and douchebag


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TheOGJammies

Accountability for certain behaviors is not inherently misogyny


karabnp

THIS.🙄


snowwy28

I thought they where Ken's?🤣🤣


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smilodon91

Garys are serial killers.


snowwy28

No way?! Gary's?! 🤣🤣🤣 That's hilarious


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TheOGJammies

Karens got their name from harassing POC and needlessly antagonizing service workers and it is well documented behavior and well deserved.


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TheOGJammies

Actually I’ll stay here and tell you to take your Ovarit aggrieved WW nonsense somewhere else


TheOGJammies

Karens got their name from harassing POC and needlessly antagonizing service workers and it is well documented behavior and well deserved.


CountingDownTheDays5

Not sure why they are downvoting you Jammies. But Karen is a term coined by black people to refer an entitle racist white women. As I stated below earliest Karen that comes to mind is the woman who lied on Emmett Till. Once white people took hold of it like the Harlem shake, box braids, and potato salad once they got a hold of it they changed it for the worse. The funny thing is white women do it to this day. A recent example is that woman in the park who pretended to be attacked by the black guy, but she was just using her privilege as a white woman. Or the white girl who claimed a black boy stole her phone and tried to hold him there. Karen IS NOT A SLUR. It just hurts some women here when they themselves are called out on their racist vocalizations and actions. The very sad thing is some people have been looked over, demeaned, degraded, belittle, and even murderer due to Karen's actions. An alley for black women is an alley who knows the history of Karen, and why we use it.


lvioletsnow

They're Kyles.😂


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I think the best thing to do is call them a Karen; after all, the last thing they want to be thought of is being like a woman.


clairenovak

>after all, the last thing they want to be thought of is being like a woman. This is why many women find the way "Karen" is currently being used is a misogynistic slur... calling a man a woman's name as an insult because men think being a woman is degrading.


queen-wannabe

I’M gOiNg tO tAlK tO tHe ReDdiT mAnAgEr!!!!!11 LMAOOO AS IF THEY’LL DO ANYTHING FOR YOU SCROTE 😂😂😂😂😂 CLOWN ASS MFS🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


Additree

I think so many different names fit because there are so many sensitive man babies


Phoenix__Rising2018

Their mob mentality is second only to their victim mentality.


AyemHerself

How many reports does this post have right now? 🤣


Edrina

I call them Stevens.


DivineGoddess1111111

I call them boomers because it is male boomer generation behaviour. I don't care what age they are. Or I call them bots if they are being particularly demonic. Soulless robots.


queen-wannabe

That’s what they call us, NPCs. Lol we should call them NPCs too, they regurgitate the same misogynistic garbage everywhere they go. They never stop, it’s literally programmed into them at this point, they don’t know any other opinion other than to piss and shout “WOMEM MAD WOMEN BAD!!!!” 🤡


the_ghost_of_

We should get rid of the term Karen altogether. It's just a crappy term used to silence women every time we speak up and there really is no male equivalent, because men aren't seen as unreasonable or hysterical when they voice their opinions, but we are.


CountingDownTheDays5

I want to correct you Karen was coined by black people to call out white women who used the white privilege against POC (specifically black people). They used vocalized, and displayed reactions actions. One of the earliest examples of a Karen I can think of is the woman who lied on Emmett Till. However, once white people took hold of like many things it's mean has change and it used to refer to an irrational (usually) white woman.


TheOGJammies

Yeah I was done when certain users tried to post that Amy Cooper was a victim of misogyny - instead of anything but massive asshole who had her dog off leash and then when called out tried to racially antagonize the person.


feverishdodo

Karen is the modern incarnation of Ms. Ann


CountingDownTheDays5

> Ms. Ann Yes it is. In fact it has had many names before it's current one (Karen). As a kid growing up in the 90's we call them Becky's and the male's Peters in my city. And for the white women here who will say what is Ms. Ann it was used in the black community the same was Karen was....


SolunaJune

Um, they're Richards. Because they are dicks.


nzsmbgm

Gary... Idk why, it just feels right \~


Noemie_Mathilde

Perfect image choice.


CountingDownTheDays5

There is already a name for male Karens they are Kens. Not to OP.... But a side-note may get me banned I am fine with it. You know the pioneer of FDS was on another site (which I will not name or name the site) and I truly was confused why she opened up FDS. And so were all the women there. **Not because I don't think FDS needs to be promoted to all women IT DOES.** But because I knew that at the very core of womanhood there is a issue between women that and I will be frank white women will not address. **Racism, and privilege.** I had to argue here three times (and once on FLUS) about racist, white female privilege, and this very thing Karen. Once was about the disadvantage black children face in society, second was about how white women have taken a lot of mannerisms and styles us black women are degraded for, and twice about Karen. Over and over again I was proved that white female privilege and the ignorance the comes with it is very present on this subreddit. On the sub for black women many won't even come here not because they don't believe in it, but because they saw dismissive racist undertone via white women. So I fall back for a bit, now I am back and it's still showing. I will not stop using Karen until Karens no longer hold their privilege. BTW there are some Karens in this post.


TheOGJammies

Yeah this “Karen is a misogynist slur” is a thing with white Radfems and they’ve been called out multiply for their lack of accountability and convenient ignorance on this particular issue and they *won’t* bring it here.


Delicious-Scholar

I support you both u/CountingDownTheDays5 and u/TheOGJammies. That’s why I don’t have intersectional discussions on FDS, I just go to the 🤎 lady sub.


CountingDownTheDays5

Thank you sis.


TieDieEye

They also send you death threats and pervy DMs for literally existing.


tzijo

Chad behavior


thelittlegirlblue

I vote for Kevin


MagnfiqueMaleficent

Terry. All Terrys are clowns.


Interesting-Bat3992

Keith, Steve, Jaxon.