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123HelloItsMe

Would be very interesting actually! I think orchestral music can give more depth for electronic music - even if not totally making orchestral music. So yeah, at least try how it feels to make some tips and advices :)


green47glow

That would be so awesome, what VST‘s can u recommend?


SgtMeteora

For Free - up to 50$ : BBC Symphonic Orchestra Discover + Free Orchestra by Project Sam Midrange all in one : Either Nucleus, BBCSO Core or Albion One More advanced and expensive: Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra, Damage, Oceania, Soundiron Apocalypse


TomatoSempai

What about Native Instrument's Komplete bundle? Greetings. <];{


SgtMeteora

Kompete is great for more hybrid stuff. The regular Komplete doesn't have the best instrumets for Orchestral. It is good if you want to have a diverse collection of libraries, but for pure orchestral there are better options


SgtMeteora

depends on your budget...


RADAWIAN

I’m sure most people would love any free advice you have to offer, so I say go ahead !


Lalmatia

The youtuber named [Alex Moukala] (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_CyR8Aqfl45kzFIDeMr-CQ) has an entire channel about Orchestral music. Also, he uses FL Studio along with giving guides on different parts of Orchestral music.


SgtMeteora

Alex is brilliant! I don't want to make content like his. I want to start with the basics but make it short and with many tips.


123HelloItsMe

That sounds good!


Johnisalex

I’ve been working on some orchestral music myself.. personally I would LOVE to see something!!


KaiKaiFM

For sure I would love to hear about your sound design. Tons of genres use big orchestral sections in them and it’s not always easy to get that sound without having an actual orchestra so hearing how you go about it would be great.


SgtMeteora

Skill will help you get a big orchestra sound, but great libraries will make it that much easier. Lately new cheap and even free libraries made it much easier for new people to start


wiesenleger

yeah, i also work orchestrally. would be interesting to see how the others do it. what main plugs do you use?


SgtMeteora

used to work with Nucleus at first. Now I mostly used Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra for Strings/Brass, Damage 2 for percussion and either Mars/Venus or Oceania 1 for Choir. I have few others that I use less now. Those are fairly expensive libraries so I'd recommend them only for more advanced producers or people who's orchestral music is their passion.


wiesenleger

ah, i mean i know them, but i have the libraries i stick with. i was always wondering why i can't make my strings sound like i wanted to (like articulation and stuff). Im curious for your guide. cheerio!


SgtMeteora

which strings you have?


wiesenleger

I use the session strings by native instruments ​ edit: I have here one track uploaded that I never deemed complete, because I couldn't make the strings sound realistic to me. https://soundcloud.com/oieuounds/true-form


SgtMeteora

session strings is great if you want to add strings to pop/rock/electronic. Maybe even for more intimate scores. The problem is that it's too small and dry for big orchestral music. I will talk about it in my first video but a symphonic string section is around 60 strings with usually a nice natural hall reverb with it. Session strings is a small chamber, 11~ strings in a small room. Kinda hard to make a big orchestra score with it. edit: The page of your track isn't working :/


wiesenleger

Ahh i never looked at it this way. I cannot correct 5he Link until tomorrow due work. But i am very curios for your opinion. Will send it then.


SgtMeteora

No problem! You can use magic (good mixing skills) but in the end, samples of 11 strings will never sound like 60 :/


wiesenleger

Totally get you. I actually looked at the spitfire Orchestra before. I need to save some money first 😀 thanks for your Input


wiesenleger

hey man, here are is the link again (i changed the options). sorry for being so late. i had a nightshift yesterday after music school. i was just so tired i forgot: ​ https://soundcloud.com/oieuounds/true-form


SgtMeteora

sounds very good! are you a pianist?


FlShangKe

I'd love that


TheCaptainCody

Yes please.


[deleted]

Yes


guakamohlee

That sounds pretty cool! I play the cello and I think that I could compose something decent with some guides, bridging the knowledge between the instrument and the daw


MMRmusic

Yup! also more tutorials about organizing the projects and using Kontakt workflow would be awesome.


SgtMeteora

noted!


Lutgerion

Definitely interested. When and how might you do this? Curious about how to best stay tuned!


SgtMeteora

Short, max 10minutes a vid. Probably start this weekend


rokatier

Yes, we demand!


PubePie

I would love this! Have been trying to get into orchestral production for a while, got Albion One and Miroslav Philharmonik for myself last Christmas but I’ve struggled to get anything off the ground. Free advice/tips/guides would be awesome!


SgtMeteora

Albion One is great! I use mostly Spitfire, love their sound


reviving_society

I've wanted to dabble into it but I don't know 100% know how to start. Like I don't know what instruments need to play which parts in the mix or how much of each instrument should belong in a suite etc. I mostly make EDM but I'd like to write some more organic things you know?


SgtMeteora

Knowing the instruments will be the first thing I'll do. Can't make Orchestral if you don't know the sections


IInsulince

Do you have any examples? YouTube video? I am intrigued to hear what orchestral music sounds like knowing it didn’t originate from a true orchestra.


SgtMeteora

Can't share my stuff because of sub rules. But a lot of orchestral music you hear in video games is actually programmed. Dark Souls 3 for example, which has an amazing soundtrack is mostly programmed.


SgtMeteora

Here is a cover of a track from the latest season of Attack on Titan from one of my favorite artists on YT. It is all programmed (not FL, but works the same) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OjzdpunQcc


IInsulince

Wow that is really cool! I mean I always figured that surely all these video games couldn’t ALL be real orchestras, but I also assumed i’d be able to hear a difference between the real thing and a simulated one. Apparently not, that vid sounds as real as it gets!


Suggs_in_space

I'd love to see that!


lolsup1

Yes


GentlemanOctopus

Definitely interested. Video game composing is one of my goals. Picked up the BBC VST a while back but want to get a better grip on what I'm doing before trying to pave over the gaps in my knowledge with more expensive VSTs. Attempting to mix without everything just being a wall of sound is where I'm at.


TheOGKnight

Yes


xDivineWarfare

This would be amazing! I'm classically trained with a lot of theory under my belt and would love to learn how to translate it over to the DAW!


SgtMeteora

Nice! knowing theory will help you a lot. I think that once you will know the basics you will be good to go!


Chumleyan

Absolutely


SkippyZii

Sure! Ive also been getting into Cinematic styled stuff and Orchestral too


mofojr

Absolutely


TkXKORE

I’m gonna be honest here, I forgot that you could make orchestral digitally💀. I’m so used to playing my sax with an actually symphony that I forgot you can make that stuff on FL. I use FL for EDM and stuff.


SgtMeteora

sad news is that there are barely any sax in Orchestral VST. The woodwinds usually have only flutes, clarinets, oboes and bassoons.


BURDAC

YES huge demand from me! There is very few free film type music tips available on the internet so anything would be super helpful to me


carrtcakethrow

I'd definitely be interested! It's one of the main reasons I downloaded FL Studio so I could create soundtrack music.


JynxxKilah

I would be very interested!!!


H2opy245

Yes, please!!


Bennersftw

Currently doing composing work for a pre historic themed indie game - always love seeing others work and input!


SgtMeteora

sounds interesting! what sounds you use tor that? I assume mostly percussions?


Bennersftw

Yeah I’ve definitely been leaning into spitfires percussions as well as SoundIrons Greek Percussions. I also picked up Danheim’s Asgard sampler. I’m intending to incorporate some horns and ambiance SFX to tie in the wildlife. Definitely posses it’s own unique challenges as I want to have a big orchestral sound but also want to keep a lot of the sounds as natural and tied to the period of time the game is set. Definitely interested in learning more about your experience and tips and tricks you picked up along the way! I’m new to this but am really wanting to create a full sound that tells a story and emphasizes the narrative the player experiences! Do you have a YouTube? Or a SoundCloud? :) somewhere I can support the cause! 🤘🏼


aleks9797

Yes. I have fl studio with the intent to make orchestral music but am not sure how to start up or what plugins are needed


demonslay3r

Yes please, it's not talked about enough here.


MelonheadGT

Yes, I am learning / experimenting with orchestral


0BLaQCaesar0

I'd definitely be interested! By the way, do you know of and if so have any opinion on the IK Multimedia Miroslav Philarmonik VSTi? I've experimented with the earlier version in the past and enjoyed its sound at that time and contemplating getting the newer version to accompany my FL DAW rebuild.


SgtMeteora

Don't get me wrong, it seems like a great library with a great sound. IKM is a highend company. The problem is, this library is bit dated. On the one hand it's not that beginner friendly, 60GB, fairly dry and not all the instruments you will want (lacking choir and some percussions it seems). On the other hand it isn't exactly a pro-end library either. For that you will buy individual libraries that offer more articulations, dynamics and such (my strings are 100gb alone). So It's a good library with a great sound, but for newer people I'd recommend more modern all-in-one libraries like Albion One, BBCSO Core or Nucleus.


0BLaQCaesar0

No problem at all, I appreciate the insight. I'm just now in the process of building so my knowledge of current or even relevant titles is dated at best. I'll be studying this sub in more detail and do some research. Thanks again for your time and information.👍🏿


SgtMeteora

I will probably make a dedicated video about suggested libraries in the near future. But I'd advice you to first know your level and dedication. If you are new or just want to make it for fun, get a modern all-in-one library. If it's your passion or something you want to make a sidejob/main look at individual products. A library for strings, one for brass, etc. edit: Once you hit ~400$ you will have amazing libraries that can do 90+% of orchestral music. I spent well over 2k on libraries and I'd say that the first 400-500 were the most important for my development.


meisterhauns

Doing some orchestral/cinematic stuff as well but never released tracks. I'm a composer cloud customer and am super happy with the new opus engine. If you have not heard of them yet: They have some amazing examples on their Soundcloud and many good videos on YT and I believe JJ Abrahams and Zedd are some of the people who recommend it if you need to be convinced. And it's far more affordable to pay a monthly price and get everything instead of buying each library, so it's at least great for checking it out. Anyone else who uses/used it? What are your thoughts?


SgtMeteora

Opus looks great! I haven't personally used EW products but 30$ per month for all their products seems great!


meisterhauns

Even less for students!


dencel007

Yes!


Shadyjay45

Give Apashe a listen


shizu73

Yes! Im currently making the ost for a videogame so these would be awesome!


SgtMeteora

nice! what type?


shizu73

To give a brief description its basically a RPG set in the early 1900s , Characters are inspired by the most promient people of the time. If your still curious heres the subreddit r/homefrontharvest


SgtMeteora

nice! love to see that! what music are you making? have an example?


shizu73

Well I need to make some character themes, town theme , for events etc. The game has a mystery element and little bit of fantasy so im trying to go for that style. So i guess i would describe it as kinda like a OST you would find in Final Fantasy but more mysterious and whimsical and maybe even jazzy at some points. I do have a lot of examples , but sadly not publically available , they are in the games discord, i always post ideas and drafts over there, but i dont want you to enter just for that hahah , maybe i could dm them or something?


SgtMeteora

yeah sure, send some, Id love to hear


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hodor1033

Yes, please do. I love making intros/endings of songs that incorporate orchestras but find myself making repetitive arrangements


GhostCamo

Yes! What vsts do you suggest for orchestral instruments?


SgtMeteora

Ive answered it already bit up. Depends on your budget as you can have anything from free to 1000$ and more!


GhostCamo

I see you answered it! Thank you


NoToneTyrone

yes, we like orchestral do it!


locobeatz

Yes please


bruhboiman

Yes PLEASE. I'm a beginner and I want to start with orchestral music. Please do, I would love it. (also if you could link some of your stuff to me that would be neat. only if you want to tho)