By - LeoShun08
Fuck Gna. She was a pain the ass.
Gna was actually pretty easy for me, fuck some of the berserkers tho, especially when there was more than one.
Hopped on for a few hours this morning to make some story progress.
I did the double berserker fight, and then the triple berserker fight. Suddenly it was night out and I have aged 30 years. I did nothing else. Just those two fights. I suffer.
I have not reached Gna and am now scared
Gna makes some of the berserkers look like kittens. God she's tough.
Thank you for the warning, time to go cry in to my pillow and come to terms with the inevitable stroke I have while fighting her!
You’re gonna love her! she’s like sigrun, but doesn’t blind you… she’ll only fill your whole goddamn health bar with bifrost…
Gna is a throwback Valkyrie but with even more shenanigans compared to sigrun
PC player here so I have to wait about a year to fight the new missus, but I do have one question: I hated the sigrun battle for one reason alone: her health bar. The fight, while fun, became very tedious very fast, because I successfully countered most attack by the end, but doing every counter 50 times is tedious, not fun. Please tell me it isn't so here with this Gna missus?
Fuck, I totally forgot about her. I actually was done with the game, haven't touched it in days. How do you find her?
She's in Muspelheim, where the Crucible side quest is.
This is me trying to defeat Tree Sentinel at lvl.1 with wretched build with wooden bonk...
I try it over and over again, from afternoon till i look to the window "short while after" and realize the sun have gone down.
I then simply goes to the first enemy camp, stole a greatsword, and then with it succesfully kill Tree Sentinel in like 5 tries.
Last night it took me 20 tries to defeat one under prepared (Elden Ring trained me well), you mean to tell me I have to fight THREE of those bitches? Please tell me they at least have decreased health
Two of them take damage when you hit either of them so you just gotta KILL two but good luck getting that far!
I mean, I believe in you, but good luck!
Some of em do seem easier than others, so I hope you killed one of the big dick ones!
Yeah, they were a pain too. Worse than the Valkyries from the first one, in most cases. Had to turn on miniboss checkpoints on normal just to beat some of them. They ramped up the difficulty in this one for sure.
My ass with skill issues on that sól build and normal difficulty developed some bad habits during those fights XD. Can't imagine doing some of them on harder difficulty, especially the >!bifrost!< one.
Bifrost was awful until I realized that healing with Valor got rid of it, which was cool.
There's a shield or enchantment or something that makes your shield bash pass on status effects. Fucking broken for applying bifrost to enemies.
God I’m so happy fromsoft didn’t cave and add shit like boss checkpoints and backseating npcs telling you what to do 24/7
One Berserker with a purple healthbar is bad enough. But three? With red? Yeah, not cool man. Wtf.
Unless you're playing on higher difficulty the only thing I can recommend is coming back with better gear lvl, since that's all the game cares about, not even stats, just gear lvl
True, that's what annoys me about the stats. The level of gear matters more than it's stats. I'd hoped they'd change that from the 2018 game but I was disappointed.
The stats do something at least for me, normal difficulty sól armour with 400 vitality by the end, was pretty hard to die.
I should've considered endgame, because I do agree with you there that the stats do matter. Hell today, I just made an endgame build with a focus on ranged attacks. But going through the story, from beginning to midgame, I was just looking for higher level hear with perks that sound nice. I did not consider stats then.
With those 3 I had more problem not because they were hard, but because camera angels fuckd me over and over. And these 2 sisters were just spaming AoE, Freya was useless
Yea fuck the fight with 3 of them, after many attempts I had enough so I decided to just run in circles and throw spears at them 😂
Lol, I really gotta try to play on a harder difficulty so I gotta do a different build cuz normal with sól armour is kinda ez mode
That lightning berserker was a fucking pain in my ass god I detested that fight.
gna was way harder than malenia bro
Seriously. She was way worse than King Hrolf.
Though I think that was because Gna only has like 2 attacks that can be parried and the berserkers can all be easily parried to make them super easy.
I think in general blue circle attacks annoyed me the most and made me tune down the difficulty. Being just out of range to interrupt attacks without having perfect timing and losing 1/3 of my health was pissing me off beyond belief. Even on easiest difficulty Gna was not a cakewalk.
balance is so weird because the king and gna even on like story difficulty AND starting with half health are significantly harder than everything else on like normal/no mercy
Same as sigrun on easy vs any other boss on give me a challenge
Havent fought her yet. Harder than Sigrun?
Idk I fought her once I was basically maxed out and it wasn’t too bad, did need to use the recovery stone though
I think she's harder than Malenia
Not even close lol. Sigrun maybe, but definitely not Gna.
You only have about two mistakes against Gna and you're as good as dead. Besides, cheesing Malenia is a lot easier. Gna on the other hand took everything from me and I had the best equipment on.
There’s more variance in the difficulty with malenia. If you fight malenia with a melee build in the classical souls style she’s way more difficult and it’s not even close. But you can also trivialize her with certain builds + summons.
Gna basically is what she is and there’s nothing you can do to make the fight easy.
Which is why I think she's harder. If you want to beat her, you really have to work for it. If you want to beat Malenia, respec to one of the many builds that destroy her and spirit summon. I'll get downvoted regardless but who cares. I Hope I got my point across
I don’t think the point is lost on anyone but “harder” is context dependent and you have to understand that the community here likely fought malenia in a way that made her significantly harder.
Yet if you're not purposefully trying to handicap yourself she's easier. Its like playing Gna on the hardest difficulty
Gna on the hardest difficulty was still not even close to as difficult as beating malenia 1v1.
I disagree. All of Gna's attacks except for one on the hardest difficulty one shot you regardless of your defense stat. Malenia is not this unforgiving.
Even then only GMGOW, sigrun, *maybe* if youre stretching it.
A bunch of builds bitchslap Malenia around. Arcane with dual wield bleed, poise monster tank or jump-strike 2colossal, most heavy casters (both int or faith). Any build that's not a regular stab-stab trade of blows. There are 100 ways to cheese or simply brute-force Malenia, given her low health and low poise.
On my first Elden Ring run I used bleed and Malenia was completely trivial because of how fast the fight was. The hardest bosses in the game were Valiant Gargoyles (by far, died more to this than every other boss combined) and Radagon + Elden Beast. On my second run I went int with astels wing and she also fell very fast to just spell pewpew. She never felt like the hardest boss because of this.
With Sigrun, you kind of just have to learn the moveset and the proper timings (haven't fought the valkyrie being talked about yet, just fought Heimdall)
When I was fighting her it was crazy how I was laser focused, trying so hard and after like 5 minutes she was still over half health. Crazy fight
Same man, glad my room mate wasn’t home. Said some foul things while fighting her lol.
Both teams did an amazing job, can’t wait for more great games next year.
So much passion was put into them and what a Time it is for the gaming industry.
LOL right. These games are excellent. The rest of the industry is in a sad place.
Maybe if you only play AAA games
Just get into indie games
Nah, play old school RuneScape. It’s the only game you need
What games from 2023 are you most excited about?
Elden ring dlc
wo long, lies of P, wukong, atomic hearts, starfield, maybe FF16
I have the first 2 on my Wish list too! Not sure wukong or starfield comes out in 2023 🤔
Also, Silk Song, and Stalker 2 should be fun too!
There’s so many others too wtf. I literally have a list of like 50 upcoming games. Never played stalker and it’s been on my radar. Also been waiting for RE4 remake
You don't need to say "Valkyrie women", because "Valkyrie" is a female only term.
Female women everywhere thank you for the distinction.
In their defense maybe valkyrie has become a kind of adjective to some to describe that style even though it would normally be a noun - so I can get how it's used that way.
Even if it has become an adjective, it’s still women only
its not a big deal. I just thought it sounded silly.
As someone who's first playthrough was on No Mercy, I hated Gna more than week 1 Malenia.
I played on balance and she still two shots me regardless of my defense. Hands down the hardest boss of the year
Hardest boss for no good reason smfh.
way harder than malenia even if you literally play on story difficulty
What is the character on the left from?
war god of
Dad of boy
Father of teen
Papa of youth
Patriarch of youngling
Supreme being of whipper snapper
Calm and Reasonable Parenting Sim 2
Deity of battles
Higher being of conflict
Man of slight misunderstandings
Boi of whatever
It’s from this new game called Apocalypse: Deity of Conflict.
Who is the guy on the left
Cory M. Bison
Actually the perfect design is Kratos' massive milkers
here's a joke I used to make while playing GoW4 and fighting valkyries.
"They have this move, it's such bullshit, where the valkyrie flies up into the air then lands on you, and you're looking up at her while she stomps on your neck and screams unworthy."
then, hopefully, my listener will say "why is that bullshit?", to which I can say
"Because it's not fair to make the player pass out from having an erection!"
Ok that's my joke, that's the joke I like to make.
Something moved just from reading that.
It was the flattening of your brain folds.
Ah the valkyrie must have stepped extra hard that time. 🥴
Valkyrie Queen is nothing compared to Malenia. If VQ healed herself every time she hit you, itd be more even.
The trick with malenia is don’t get hit, unfortunately for her and myself it’s a very violent relationship and she’s nowhere near the victim
I have slight nerve damage in my left hands. I can't dodge roll out of the way. I'm physically not fast enough. I have to block the hits.
(Edit: I meant BOTH hands not left hands)
There is a way around having to dodge with the fingerprint shield and a bleed poke weapon like a rapier or cross naginata. Max out your guard stat and bleed and you should be able to outdamage her healing. You of course need to dodge her scarlet aeonia but you can certainly brute force the fight
Left handS? Damn man how many you got? Seriously though that’s shit and would definitely make it all the more challenging especially on her
He grafted himself some more, just like Godrick
Damn you're really on hard mode, no way I could play a souls game without the roll. Tried rebinding it to a button operated by your right hand?
I did it by playing it like a sekiro fight, parrying everything i could, (she has a lot of parriable attacks) and using the wheel chainsaw thing weapon you fiind in the manor i think, you get a lot of ripostes and also the bleed on that weapon is inanely strong, only difficult part bein the flyiin anime bs and the clones she sends in second phase
Plus imo parrying is the most enjoyable and rewarding method once you get the hang of it, it s so much like an ellegant dance that you actually miss fighthing her when you beat her
Can’t stun lock and mimic tear VQ though
The healing stuff is so redundant. If she’s landing that many hits on you to make a difference, you’ve already lost, heal or not
Did you play on GMGOW difficulty? Personally I had no issues with Malenia but I’ve still never once killed Sigrun. Not even like a quarter of her health bar. It’s way more difficult in my opinion.
I just don't have the patience or reflexes to learn 12 attack tells and remember how to react in time to each one.
that definitely sounds like an exaggeration
Okay, play the first game on a higher difficulty level and let me know if it is an exaggeration. The last Valkyrie uses the attacks of all the prior Valkyries, and you have to respond to them differently.
Mf have you ever tried Valkyrie Queen Sigrun on hard or very hard? You die so fast the amount of health she heals is insignificant
Having fought both, I have to respectfully disagree.
Malenia was hard sure, but it was more about patience and learning her limited moveset.
Gna however, had all the moves of Sigrun and more.
She might not be able to heal but goddamn was her healthbar so fucking large.
On hard difficulty I'd put her on a similar level as Malenia. She can blind you and basically kill you outright with that stomping move.
i'd put her way above even on story difficulty
you can be way stronger in elden ring and do way more damge and heal way more. Gna is harder by a massive margin even on the easiest difficulty
Gna is tough as hell but she is not Melania
It’s been almost a year. How the hell do some of you people still not know her name?
There are countless people who speak only 1 language (English) and yet still don't know the distinction between your/you're, or how to use apostrophes. I wouldn't be surprised if people can't get a name right
The biggest offender for me is folks who say “effect” in situations where the correct term is “affect” (or vice versa).
But she literally spells it out for you every single time she kills you. You’d think gamers would eventually get the name right. It’s not even a difficult one.
I know, darth baul, but such is humanity.
Because we're all typing on our phones and sometimes we lose our battles with autocorrect?
Sigrun is better then Gna imo not that it matters
She absolutely is. Brutal but fair. Gna is flat out cheep
Gna was dramatically more enjoyable than a lot of the berserkers. I enjoyed her fight.
To be serious i think a good boss/enemy design is the one that require us to study their movement rather than needing high stats just to defeat them.
Some bosses in elden ring lie in between, some bosses love making sure you get hit like gargoyles.
For Asgard for Asgard for Asgard
valkyries are traditionally depicted as women?
Am I the only one that thinks Mohg is worse than Malenia?
I do tbh
I can see why. I remember how many hours i fought Friede on my first character and then she just became a pushover for any next character cuz how exploitable she is while doing nothing but dodging. Malenia is somewhat similar in that regard.
At least the Queen of the Valkyries was somehow fair and fun to fight , can't say the same about Malenia
I had more fun with Malenia than Gna
Yes but Malenia isn’t that peak of design in terms of bossfight for From’s standards.
Yeah, I think its poorly designed. Its for the memes
If only she either:
- just had good hyperarmour during attacks’ start ups, but her stability was broken like other bosses, with no cancelling recoveries into waterfowl dance.
- Recovery cancels would remain, but she would have no hyperarmour and no stability to break. She would of course be able to block your attack and dash out of your chain…
I don’t know she feels so much more like a Sekiro boss than a Souls boss. I love her and hate her at the same time.
I hate the fact that she Can kick herself out of stagger at will. You Can hit her and she would cancel her stagger animation into a kick before you recover from the attack. Its so weird
Malenia wasn't great. Worst fight I've ever experienced in any game I've ever played.
Gná was a bitch to fight then I realised you can shoot sound and hex arrows at the soundstone and sigil attacks
Your partner literally yells “ITS SIGIL MAGIC” or “SOUNDSTONE!!” when she does those attacks.
I don't remember Valkyries being described as having magic space cancer.
I 4 try'd malenia on my first playthrough with mimic and darkmoon greatsword, so on journey 2 I wanted to attempt beating her by myself... took 4 hours
Ironocaly, both games have absolutely different gamedesighn approach
Hands down funnest boss fight! Go let me solo her
GOD OF NO ONE!
Oh yeah, give me more unblock-able random jab attack
the only two game that make me angry and yet i cant stop playing it . . . .
These guys are the best in the world at what they do. Really fun to see their two faces, side by side, for the first time. Jarring in a good way.
"peak game design are barefeet"
-Myiazaki in his mind, probably
Gna wasnt hard at all! Compared to sigrun of course
Winged Malenia would be ideal
So, just phase 2 Malenia
Yes, both woman with wings, perfect image
It took me a whole week to finally defeat Sigrún back in 2018... I haven't fisnished Ragnarök yet but, taking some of the berserkers for example, Gná will be way harder
Gna was harder than malenia for me
Gna was an amazing fight. Super difficult but satisfying.
Personally, I prefer to get my anus stretched by Desolating Gallu Stormcallers (guess the game!).
But I get the sentiment!
Beat melania no summon lvl 125! Felt awesome!
Cory wasn't even the director lol
Valkyries were a thing in GoW2018 you know