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The Subway, Zion National Park, USA [OC] [6016 × 3384]

The Subway, Zion National Park, USA [OC] [6016 × 3384]

Kurian17

I've been to Zion 3 times and never come across this. It's gorgeous. Is this one of the areas of the park that requires a permit?


coulombic

Yes, it needs a permit. There's an online lottery for it. It's in the Zion backcountry.


ProfessorPoopslinger

wait, there's a lottery now? I went in 2013 Oct and we just walked up and asked at the park info building.


coulombic

Yeah, there is. I think you can still get tickets in the park, but it's based on how many people actually show up and pick up their passes. There are 80 slots a day, so if a few people don't show up, you can get a same day pass (I think). In order to actually schedule it, however, and not roll the dice, you need to do an online lottery.


mikewheels

They reserve a certain number of passes for people who show up that day. You can also reserve a pass the day before. I have done this 4 times and each time was able to walk up and get a pass. That being said I got the pass first thing in the morning.


ProfessorPoopslinger

gotcha, yea it was late in the season and they had a few still available for the next day so we grabbed one IIRC.


Sam_DoubleU

Yeah I've hiked it a few times, we would always send someone up from our camp spot early in the morning to grab the passes otherwise you lose out.


ViralityFarm

October Subway is pretty open because it gets cold. Go during the summer hours and you need to line up at midnight.


btribble

How far of a hike is it? Do you hike in from the valley?


oh_ranger

No it's up on the KT road. This is the view from walking up the canyon. It's rated as a arduous hike. You hike down into the valley and then back out. Several hours worth of hiking.


btribble

I've come to terms with the fact that my ankles are beyond "arduous" hikes at this point. Looks fun though!


oh_ranger

It truly is a wonderful hike but definitely pulls no punches. The bouldery creekbed IS the trail for the most part. There are plenty of interesting places in Zion to visit that aren't as hard.


WhatAFox

My feet were killing me after the 10 miles. It's one of the toughest hikes I've done and I hike at least once or twice a week in the summer. There's quite a bit of scrambling over boulders as well.


WhatAFox

It's 10 miles in and back, or you can repel down and do the 5 miles out. It is an extremely difficult hike.


Stew819

If you get there early enough, like 5 a.m. or earlier you can get passes. I got there around that time and there were 3 people in front of me and about 5 people behind me when it opened.


icecreamguy

Yeah! It's called The Subway - you can canyoneer down from the top (two rappels, some swimming) or hike from the bottom up to it. You can obtain permits here: https://www.nps.gov/zion/planyourvisit/subwaypermits.htm. Was really awesome! The "Top Down" route takes you through some gorgeous slot canyons.


Kurian17

Thanks for the info. Hiking to the top of Angels Landing was so rewarding, this looks equally beautiful. Definitely going to check it out. I love Zion because it's a reasonably short drive from Phoenix.


Hayduke_in

The "bottom up" route ends just past the OP's photo a little short of the [Upper Subway](http://famagogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/PH1_1511-Edit.jpg). If you want to see the upper section be prepared for a tricky scramble (I posted a photo and description lower in the thread) or do a top down hike. But the pools in the posted photo and the waterfall room just past it are worth the bottom up hike by themselves.


Sonoranpawn

Couldn't agree more. After living in the valley of the sun for over a decade now I've managed to get to zion 3 times and each time I go I do different hikes such as the one here. I did Angels the first time I went to Zion and knew with sweaty palms holding on to the chains that moment would be rewarded for the rest of my life in memory.


Enginerdiest

The narrows is hike able without a permit and equally beautiful (but intensely crowded during warm months) just tossing it out there in case you want more ideas for what to explore in Zion.


dustarook

It is gorgeous, but even on busy days it's only crowded for the first mile or so. Bring some sturdy walking sticks (shovel handles work great) and plant the end between the river rocks as you hike and you can make it pretty far without much trouble.


Kurian17

Been to the Narrows everytime I've gone, it's great but like you said it gets rather crowded. The hike up to Angels Landing isnt all that much better in terms of crowds until the last leg which about 80% forego hiking.


erkwils

Mid-day at Angel's Landing this is definitely true-however if you head out early, you are golden. We started around 5:30 in the morning and ran into maybe 4 people until we got back down to the Squiggles. Well worth the early rise, and a killer view across the park at that hour.


so_hologramic

It's so beautiful! Are you allowed to swim there with a permit?


icecreamguy

Yeah there are no swimming restrictions as far as I know. And for the top-down route you absolutely must swim since the slot canyons are filled wall-to-wall with water in some places. We had dry suits, the water was so cold I couldn't feel my hands after a few minutes. Though there was a guy swimming in his underwear right where we rappelled into the main formation so you might be fine!


SenHeffy

You don't need to be in the water for more than 30-60 seconds though. I've done this hike from the top down 5 times and never had any kind of dry suit. You do want a bag do keep your gear safe and an extra pair of shoes is nice.


icecreamguy

Fair enough - I guess I am kindof a wuss, my hands were freezing! I think I would cry if I wasn't in a dry suit.


SenHeffy

It's all good, I was just confused because it sounded like you were in the water a lot longer than I would expect.


ilovebadpitches

First trip to Zion in about two weeks, hoping to do Bottom Up if we can get last minute or unclaimed permits. Would you recommend a wet suit considering current water temps? Or is it just the 30-60 second swim and everything else isn't much more than ankle deep (if that)?


WhatAFox

You won't need a suit. You can only go so far if you don't repel in. Just wear something that dries quickly. I brought chacos to change into once we got into the water areas and then switched back into my hiking shoes after. You do not want to hike back out of there with wet feet.


SenHeffy

If you go bottom up you do not have to swim at all, so it is a non issue


SenHeffy

You will be walking in a lot of ankle deep water.


Rocko9999

Blow up inner tube in your pack....?


thebrandedman

Awesome. I live an hour away, this is happening on my next weekend


icecreamguy

Sick!


thebrandedman

Do you happen to have GPS coordinates? I'd like to follow that stream


icecreamguy

It's well documented online, just google "zion subway." You follow the stream almost the whole time, for miles both above and below the formation - you can't really escape it since you're in a canyon!


thebrandedman

Awesome. I appreciate it bro


AUGUSTIJNcomics

We don't have those landscapes in the Netherlands unfortunately. That is why every dutch person goes on vacation to france in the summer.


SenHeffy

Top down is by far the best if possible (requires 2 vehicles). Lots of fun obstacles to get around and you can avoid doing long walk through the river a 2nd time.


icecreamguy

Requires 2 vehicles... unless you mind hitchhiking. Highly recommend!


laythepipe

Is the route from the bottom up do-able without a guide?


MrShapinHead

Just a heads up - I did the bottom-up and it was amazing. The safest way to hike it though is straight through the creek. I didn't know this and kept trying to stay on the dry land. Not a good idea - ending up on a pretty dangerous ledge. Go straight up the water and go on land only when the water is too crazy. By the way - there are fossilized Dino footprints on the trail (left* side on the way up), cascading falls, and rock formations I've never seen anywhere else. It's amazing. Make sure to make this hike a priority


WhatAFox

I did mostly dry land and only a bit of the creek bed and it was fine. If you're a more experienced hiker, youll be fine on land. We did see some folks having issues that stayed in the water though.


icecreamguy

Yes, unless you are very new to hiking I can't imagine you would have much trouble, you're basically following a canyon the whole time. The only thing that might be tough is finding the exit out of the canyon on your way back. But there are a lot of guides online that will help with maps, photos and descriptions to help you find your way.


Hayduke_in

Getting to the next level above the pools in your photo can be tricky if you're hiking it from the bottom up. My dad and I went back in 2012 and we just barely managed to make it to one of the ledges you rappel down from with me standing on his shoulders and hands (he's 6'4" and I'm 6'1") and him using my leg to crawl up while I held on to a log that crossed the gap above me. The position of debris in that more confined area just above the pool may change from year to year making it more or less difficult to get past that point. [Photos of the ledge.](http://imgur.com/2d3K9sq)


icecreamguy

Wow I can't believe you got up there! We rappelled down from there!


Hayduke_in

Haha yeah from what I can remember it wouldn't have been possible for him to climb up my leg without the fallen log being there. The walls in that area were just too slick, handhold free (for me at least), and too far apart to chimney up solo. With my dad as a 7 foot ladder we just barely made it. Great photo by the way! My thesis field area was in south central Utah near Hanksville and Zion was my favorite place to get away from work the summer I was out there. Have you backpacked up to the West Rim trail? If you haven't hit up campsite #5 sunset view from the western cliff edge near camp one day. One of the prettiest vistas in Zion and I'd even wager the national park system. [West Rim Trail](http://imgur.com/G2p9ZQc)


icecreamguy

Wow!! That is awesome! I haven't been there - definitely will check it out the next chance I get, thank you!


GatorTuro

We stayed at campground #6 when we backpacked the West Rim trail! Just a two minute walk from there and we had an awesome and similar view to yours as well.


laythepipe

Cool thank you! Neither of us are new to hiking, but I know I wouldn't really feel comfortable doing the top-down route alone... but this is the one hike that is a MUST DO for me


icecreamguy

Oh, yeah for the top down route you or someone in your group absolutely must have technical canyoneering experience - you need harnesses, wet or dry suit, ATC, rope, webbing for anchors, etc. But bottom up is no problem as long as you don't mind that climb out of the canyon at the end!


laythepipe

That's exactly what I was thinking... thank you for your advice :)


icecreamguy

Happy to help! :-)


Webborwebbor

Canyoneer top down if you can - so amazing


WhatAFox

Yes.


[deleted]

How does someone get into canyoneering?


WhatAFox

Start by rock climbing and learning how to top rope climb and belay.


NewsGirl13TX

Thanks for sharing! I am going to Zion in 3 weeks!


ZeeBeast

pls need specific location too!


Stew819

It's very nice, but not nearly the caving experience that people described to us, it's probably only 100 yards long after a fairly long hike. Still beautiful of course but I feel like our expectations were unrealistic because of how they were stoked by the egregious enthusiasm of others which led to a mix of mild dissapointment and awe. A lot of the really mystical shots are taken from a single perspective that makes it look almost enclosed. Where is we expected more and more of what the pictures show


ga30022

http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/subway.cfm


Webborwebbor

You never heard of the subway before this?


pankocrunch

Also, what time of year was this? I feel like that should be part of the posting rules for this sub. Beautiful, BTW.


icecreamguy

It was this past Sunday. Thanks! :-)


Clear_Runway

Watch out for traps in the water. Got to keep the White Legs out somehow, neh?


[deleted]

I think the burned man might be one of my favourite characters from new vegas.


Clear_Runway

mine too!


Frostiken

Honest Hearts was considered the weakest DLC for New Vegas but it was still better than most of the stuff Bethesda craps out.


bagelpizzaparty

Nhey, there's the high roller!


Kdj87

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.


PENGUIN_DICK

You eyeballin' me?


Kdj87

Got a song for you, now. It's about a guy who's cold on the exterior, but deep down, you know he's a good man. And his name... is Johnny Guitar.


crumbs182

*changes radio station*


Krossrunner

Yaaasssss lol I'm glad someone references Fallout NV


JoshuaGrahamCrackers

I don't enjoy killing, but when done righteously, it's just a chore, like any other.


willisbar

eh what?


Vicyorus

It's a reference to one of the post-apocalyptic tribes that formed in Zion, it's from the game Fallout: New Vegas, more specifically, the Honest Hearts DLC.


ga30022

Good work! I love Zion (been 4 times) and the Subway, but most pics make it look more like a cave, not a canyon.


icecreamguy

Yeah I was surprised when I got there that it was so open!


icecreamguy

Also - thanks!


ga30022

I stole it for my desktop background. :)


icecreamguy

Hah, I think that's actually the exact reason why this particular subreddit was started - I'm honored!


Bodie217

Totally, being there in person is nothing like the pictures. The Subway is pretty wide as far as canyons go.


icecreamguy

Hah, I don't know about that - I'd say the Grand Canyon is pretty wide as far as canyons go! Certainly there are narrower slot canyons though, Buckskin Gulch is close by and quite narrow in some spots, plus its walls are much taller making it feel very different. Though the Subway narrows above the main formation get pretty tight in some spots.


Bodie217

I mean in the pictures, it looks like you're in a cave as stated above. There is no feeling of claustrophobia, it's not enclosed, as some pictures lead you to believe. My definition of narrow is when some heavier-set people can't do the slot canyon.


icecreamguy

Oh, hah, yeah, now that would be a thin canyon! But yeah, you are totally right, it is completely open along the top, very strange to get there and think "where is the cave part?" The part just before rappelling into where this photo was shot though does have a much more cave-like feeling.


o2toau

Don't try and see this if you're not in good hiking condition


icecreamguy

Agreed - the least-strenuous route requires a fairly arduous climb 400' out of the canyon. My legs are killing me and I'm not in bad shape.


WhatAFox

The climb out is what about killed me. I have asthma and thought I was going to pass out.


icecreamguy

It was fucking intense.


Cpapa97

Agreed - Just take the train there instead if you must.


o2toau

Ayyy


Roycen6

Awesome! I did Angels Landing a couple months ago and didn't have time to do The Subway. Time to plan a trip back to Utah


icecreamguy

Yesssss


Zakimations

Do yourself a favor and learn the canyoneering skills necessary to do the full canyon. It's awesome.


deus_ex_macadamia

By the rivers of Babel we sat and we wept when we remembered Zion


[deleted]

Anytime I see photos of Zion on here, my heart breaks just a little more. My friends and I are from AZ and we had taken a trip to Utah for this very reason. Closed due to snow...and we went at the end of May. Being Arizonians....we didn't think too much about the snow.


icecreamguy

Ah man that stinks! Yeah we're from Tucson, it's not a trivial drive. But worth making again!


[deleted]

Oh man, we came back the North side of the Grand Canyon around the [Vermilion Cliffs](http://imgur.com/PEgsnJg) and I could not believe the sights I was seeing. I mean - I've done my fair share of exploring in Arizona (one of the best landscapes to explore) but I was taken away by the sights we had seen. I would take that trip again in a heart beat. I will get to Zion, I will!


icecreamguy

Sick photo! I will tell you this - apply for the fucking Coyote Buttes permits every single month until you get them. It took me over a year before I got them, but I've been twice and it is UNREAL. There is a lot more there than just the wave, if you have a GPS device (phone with nice app will do) and patience you can find a bunch of other mind-blowing features like the second wave, alcove, grotto, boneyard. That place is magical.


[deleted]

Thank you! I will!


ProfessorPoopslinger

there's a reason it's called the holy land :D


[deleted]

I did not know that! It truly does look like one!


Bourgi

I miss Tucson! I wish I had traveled more of the west especially Zion before I moved :(


snif6969

Zion National Park is the most beautiful park I've come across !


ericcris10sen

I work at Zion and while it's beautiful, it's way too fricken busy and that's the reason I've only been on one trail. When I want to go to a national park I want to be away from the hordes of people. I don't want to wait for an hour to get inside the gates, 30 min - 1 hour to get on a bus, and get on a trail and never stop seeing people all around me. For ME, that ruins the experience of the park.


lukeilsluke

You're going on the wrong trails then. The backcountry stuff there is better and emptier


ericcris10sen

Guess it depends on where you go. I know there are plenty of areas in the back country where there are still plenty of people. I know I'm being picky but when you deal with a lot of bullshit from visitors every day, you just don't want to see them anymore when you're going on hikes.


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ericcris10sen

When did you go up? I start work at 0600 and there are already gobs of people everywhere. I know you said you JUST made the trip but wondering around the exact dates. It started getting like this last week. Maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. After all the shit I put up with at the park here, I can't enjoy the park, AT ALL. I've been here for almost 2 years now and this will be my last season. I need to get out before I go crazy. Our stats show it's already an 8% increase in visitation from last year which was a record breaker of a 30% increase, and this year will be an absolute nightmare for us. I've had other rangers who hiked Angels Landing and when they were at the chains, they had foreigners not understanding how dangerous it is, walking super fast and almost pushing their way past people rather than waiting their turn. THAT is something I don't want to run into when going on a trail. Disrespectful and ignorant tourists. No fricken thank you.


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Frostiken

I'm somewhat disappointed that what it took was "free" to get people to come out to the park - shit is dirt cheap normally.


[deleted]

Worked a season in Zion too and I'll never forget just how busy that summer in the front country was. I hear the last fives seasons have been soul crushing if you work and play anywhere near the canyon but ... the hiking on the east side of the park is always wide open. East Rim trail to the canyon is hardly traveled. I backpacked the West Rim trail starting at Lava Point in late September and encountered only a few groups of people, and the views from there, words can't describe. My point is, even in a busy national park, there are less traveled areas, but you have to search for them and pray to god nobody publishes a book highlighting the location.


ericcris10sen

I've worked in both maintenance and in fees. Fees is literally the worst job at that park (and in the NPS). My god it was an absolute fucking nightmare. All the permanents left, and more than half the seasonals didn't come back until they offered them permanent gigs which is still stupid as hell. Maintenance is disheartening. Working your ass off to clean or build something only to see it completely destroyed the VERY NEXT DAY. Put in a new mirror? Next day someone tagged it. Put in a new light fixure? Next day it's tagged. Repair/unclog a toilet? Next day someone has stuffed a bunch of shit down and ruined it. Every day it's hell. Every day. Yea I know there are plenty of less traveled areas in the back country. But I've just had it with this park and the (not all of them) stupid tourists that I don't want to be anywhere near them on my days off. I'm just happy I'm going to be done after this season or hell, before if I get a job offer somewhere else.


nukefudge

_Disclaimer: I'm red/green color blind._ The colors look weird to me. Can't quite grasp the depth. It almost looks sort of rendered. Did you fiddle with it digitally?


icecreamguy

I absolutely spent some time processing it in Lightroom if that's what you mean, however there is no rendering like with a 3D program or something. The pools are about 4' deep. If you do a google image search for "zion subway" you'll see that the colors really are pretty insane there! It was tough to capture since the sun was directly overhead and obviously I couldn't process the pictures when I was there at the location, but I don't think it's too far off. One thing that may make the water look strange is that I used a polarizing filter over my camera lens to filter out as much of the surface reflections as possible, which is not really what you see with the naked eye. You get the same effect if you look at water while wearing polarized sunglasses. It's also one of the few photo effects that you *can't* do digitally - you have to do it in the field or bust!


nukefudge

Well, in that case, I suppose you've managed a somewhat remarkable piece :) - although still, I don't quite trust my vision. ;)


icecreamguy

Hah, thanks! It's taken a lot of practice! It's impossible to get the image you get off of your SD card to look like it did in real life so there are always differences. There is absolutely zero chance that if you were to go there right now it would look exactly like this picture, and I'm sure some people can see where I missed the mark just intuitively. Vision is very subjective!


chapterpt

I really miss what fallout dlc used to be.


metalknight

Far Harbor is pretty baller, imo. Also new legendary effects!


doctorbadwolf19

Zion is definitely named appropriately.


thewordkurt

What The Subway normally looks like http://i.imgur.com/7tWp8Gz.jpg


Zakimations

I went through during the end of May and there wasn't a single person hanging out at this spot. That being said, I don't know what it's like in the middle of the summer, but I am fairly confident that it doesn't become a beach party considering how strenuous the hike is. I am fairly certain that it doesn't get swarmed by dozens of people wearing swimsuits.


Fishbirds

You mean Wailing Caverns


icecreamguy

I was about to be like no this *is* the Subway until I googled Wailing Caverns :-P


Tinderkilla

Kresh gotta be around somewhere


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daddysdarlin1

We live in the most beautiful state, don't we? I'm proud to call Utah home!


FuckItImaSayIt

Seems like a lotta pictures of Utah on this sub.


icecreamguy

Utah has a high concentration of awesome.


guithrough123

Going to Zion in a few weeks. From my understanding and online search you don't need a permit for any bottom up hikes (at least day hikes). Has anyone experienced anything different? I'm thinking either Narrows or Angel's landing.


icecreamguy

You do need a permit for the Subway, even bottom up. See https://www.nps.gov/zion/planyourvisit/thesubway.htm >Permits are required regardless of the direction of travel. But they let in 80 people per day and there is a last-minute drawing you could try out, worst-case scenario you get to see all of the other amazing parts of the park!


RestorePhoto

Narrows bottom up (to a certain point) and angel's landing don't require permits.


catchphish

Absolutely gorgeous. Seems like the very last place I would want to be if I hear rain or thunder in the distance though... this has got to be a nightmare during flash floods.


icecreamguy

Thanks, yeah it is a really breathtaking canyon! It most certainly is VERY dangerous during rains as any narrow canyon is. People have died at this one and it's critical to keep an eye on the weather. I would pee my pants if I heard thunder and was in the narrower sections.


JangB

The flow of the Chakras.


[deleted]

I LOVE this hike. Absolutely beautiful. The little pools are fun to swim around in as well. I would definitely recommend this to anyone looking for a really unique water hike.


[deleted]

Looks like a sweet place for a sweet Jedi and Sith battle!


HatManToTheRescue

Can anyone who has been to Zion attest to its beauty? I'm a broke college student saving for a trip there within the next year and want to know if it's really worth it. I planned on possibly driving my truck (FJ Cruiser) after I get a rooftop tent added to it, and camping out somewhere, somehow. I really want to know if it's more of just a one day sightseeing thing, or if I could make a really cool trip out of it.


[deleted]

You could spend an entire week there and always find incredible views like this. Southern Utah is just stunning. Zion National Park is gorgeous. Arches is cool, but you could cruise through it in a few hours if you don't have time to get out and stop. Definitely camp at Goblin Valley. Hit up Angel's Landing. I also really enjoyed Capitol Reef national park, particularly Hall's Creek. If you are going to be camping in your truck, check the weather forecast before you go and every night before you go to sleep. Flash floods here are not a joke, your truck may be washed away and you could drown. People die from flash floods here on a regular basis. Ask visitor centers for recommended places to camp in your truck and where to avoid - they do genuinely want to help you enjoy your trip.


HatManToTheRescue

Thank you very much for that warning, flash floods would have never even crossed my mind. I'll definitely take a look at the places you mentioned and see what looks most interesting. Thanks for the well thought out reply


DJ63010

The answer to your question is pretty subjective. I can't help thinking of that scene in the original National Lampoons Vacation, when they were at the Grand Canyon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNwo2NpmGY I spent a few days at Zion and Bryce and wish I had more time to do exploring, they are incredible beautiful.


canonero

You can spend a lifetime exploring this place. Personally, I started my love affair with Zion 20 years ago when I first moved to Utah. I spend the majority of my time exploring the backcountry where you will not see a single soul. It just depends on your experience level, and the level of risk and hard work you're willing to take. I think you wont be disappointed.


stoicconch

The first thing that came to mind, "sigh...I want to be here..."


zerostyle

I'm headed to zion in July. With only 2 days, how would you break up your hikes? Angel's Landing first day and The Narrows 2nd day? Any other way you'd break this up? Time for more?


pbrandoj

If you do Angels Landing leave early... Like just before the sun rises. In fact, sunrise at the top of Angels landing is incredible. Angels Landing is a ZOO beginning at about 10 AM. I actually prefer the Observation point hike if angels landing is crowded. Narrows is a really great day hike and I'd recommend that for sure. Make sure to have some good shoes/boots that you can hike in wet, because pretty much that entire hike is in the river and there's even some swims that are quite refreshing on a hot southern Utah July afternoon. As for the order, I wouldn't say it matters too much. Your shoes will be wet after the narrows so that may make that better for a second day hike. Oh, and take plenty of water. Like, it's easy to think you'll be able to get by with the single maligned bottle but southern Utah heat is nothing to mess with. As a former local it was mind boggling to see how many tourists only hiked with a 16 oz water bottle. Bring a camelback or at least a few larger refillable bottles (there's spring water filling stations at the trailhead). It's heavy starting out but your hike will be much more enjoyable not being dehydrated.


zerostyle

Thanks for the info. Hate early mornings, but it'll be a very crowded weekend. Will have to see what I can do about getting up early. As for water, I plan on bringing a 2L water bladder or similar. I go through water like CRAZY when I do hot hikes.


pbrandoj

Yeah. July is kind of a crazy month but if you go in with that expectation it shouldn't be too bad. If nothing else you'll want to get there early to get a parking spot at the visitors center instead of having to park in Springdale and taking a bus to the visitors center. Mornings and evenings in Zion are pretty incredible. I'm not a morning person but just for the sake of having lower temperatures and seeing the sun hit the rock with the morning light is incredible. I usually did my day hikes with a 2.5 liter camelback, a bottle of Gatorade to enjoy at the halfway point and a Nalgene bottle. That will usually last you well for a few hours. Enjoy your trip!


Phoenix_21

I am blessed to work in this beautiful park.


Bodie217

If you're doing Subway top-down, then you have the know-how to do Pine Creek Canyon, which is an even more beautiful yet very accessible canyon, as it starts and ends at parking lots with very little "hiking". Just make sure you have enough long ropes and wet suits. Cannot recommend it enough.


icecreamguy

Yeah we've heard about that one! Really want to do it, and I can't imagine that the friend who led this trip with all of the canyoneering know-how will not get in there in the next year :-). Hopefully I'll get to tag along!


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What an astonishing sight!


tag318

I'll be dreaming of going here some day!


mrhangdog

This just reinforces the fact that I need to get to Zion.


[deleted]

Be sure to work out. This is a full-day hike with a strenuous 400-foot climb, and is not an entry-level hike. It's stunning, though! Well worth the effort.


FunkSlice

I wonder if there's any fish in here.


rrrrickman

Going there tomorrow...Can't wait to get out of NOLA.


acc2016

I've been to 15-20 US national parks, and Zion is my favorite.


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Wow that really is stunning!


glorious_cheese

How have I never been to Zion??


rockherlara

I'll be going to Zion in a few weeks for the first time, just for a day so don't think I'll get to this but hope to see it on another trip! Gorgeous!


-_ellipsis_-

I used to hike all over Zion, and the subway is definitely my all time favorite. It got to the point where we would throw our packs across the water and jump in after because we knew well enough how deep it was to be safe doing it.


adam123453

Looks like that level in Metro: Last Light where you're running around fighting off those jumpy wolf things and then you have to kill that giant bear monster


PM_ME_MARDIGRAS_PICS

Someone needs to photoshop Jared in there.


healthynight

America is seriously the most beautiful place in the world.


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I'm also growing a bit jealous of Peru. [Machu Picchu](https://www.vjv.com/media/315120/peru-machu-picchu-ss.jpg), [Humantay Lake](https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13116509_1736970003254392_5332163561862427612_o.jpg), and some absolutely [incredible towns](https://www.facebook.com/eventtual/media_set?set=a.707036532687692.1073741845.100001440558285&type=3&pnref=story) As a Utahn whose state is so regularly featured here at EarthPorn, I am determined to go to Peru one day.


JustBoo

One of the most stunning photos I have seen in a long time. There is just something about the overall effect... like a perfect dream.


mooncricket18

Went there for our honeymoon. Never saw this


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......earth porn indeed


mikewheels

There are some really awesome Dino footprints on the hike to the subway! If you do hike it look for a giant white rock. You can't miss it.


icecreamguy

We totally forgot to keep an eye out and ended up passing them! Maybe next time :-)


Zalo4

It reminds of the area in Irithyll Dungeon where the mimic chest triggers the swarm of basilisks. The path right after the giant and the rats.


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Never seen anything quite like this. Thanks :)


backdoor_nobaby

I want a 12" on Italian herb and cheese, BMT with provolone, toasted, with spinach, red onion, olives, banana peppers, spicy mustard and kill it with the Parmesan. Yeah, student discount....


randomking0x70

SIEG ZEON!


wondertribe

I went to Zion for the first time today!! Wish I knew more about the backcountry stuff though, I can't stand doing anything super touristy


SlathersInc

So lucky to live 40 minutes away.


pbrandoj

Love this hike. Did the top-bottom route two years ago and the slot canyon itself is beautiful. Russell Gulch, at the top of the hike, was breathtaking as well. You really get a good perspective of how all the water funnels down into the slot canyon during a rainstorm. [Russell Gulch Sandstone](https://500px.com/photo/155389273)


pbrandoj

Alternate view looking the other way from OP's photo: [Zion Subway](https://500px.com/photo/155389619)


canonero

This is what the Subway looks like in November http://imgur.com/wgGyxCn. This spot is at the "saddle" right after the last rappel if you're doing it from the top down. Also, wetsuits are recommended this late in the season.


AnonymousGenius

reminds me of zen from half life


ked21

The blacks are crushed. You're losing a lot of detail there.


icecreamguy

I appreciate the critique, but I am comfortable in how I processed this. The blacks most certainly are crushed, and for sure there is a lot of detail in the raw file that is no longer present. The colors are not the exact colors that were present in reality. My monitor isn't even calibrated, so even if I wanted that I couldn't achieve it. This image represents how I remember and personally, subjectively interpret the beauty of this incredible place. My intention was not to accurately represent every detail of the location but to highlight these stunning pools and shimmering, mottled, deep red rock surfaces that comprised the floor in the way that they stuck out in my memory of the formation.


sybilgu

Awesome! The river is green. In China I only saw it in Jiuzhaigou


reven80

There is something called the [Subway Cave](http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/lassen/recarea/?recid=11435) near Lassen National Park. Not quite as picturesque given that it is pitch black inside. It is an old lava tube. Take a flashlight and good shoes/boots (floor is rough with lava debris) if you go.


ScarecrowSexington

Heard stories of a man wrapped head to toe in bandages walking through here.


corza747

I don't see The Subway


puffymik3

Where do they make the sandwiches?


tumblewiid

This looks so amazing, wow! Is it darker than the picture in there?