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Capable_Comb4043

But did you even try writing poetry to express your dislike of being shot? If argument and poetry doesn't work, it is time to bring out the big guns. The really big guns. Hit them with a major - and I mean major - leaflet campaign. That will bring them to their knees.


whorootbeerdatbe

Did BJ Blazkowicz even *try* singing "God Bless America" to the Nazis?


Defender_of_Ra

*DLC: Kinte Cloth and Capitalism! (The capitalism is exclusively insider trading and illegal transactions that will never be investigated by a prosecutor.)* Note that, irl, rightwingers threw a fit when Wolfenstein came out because nazis were the bad guys. The studio told them to pound sand.


CrowTR0bot

Slight nitpick. Rightwingers threw a fit because it compared *them* to Nazis by showing how accepting America would be of a Nazi occupation. To which I say...where's the lie?


lufan132

Two words: Jimi Hendrix


robot_cook

I don't get it ?


agent00F

Have you also tried voting the Nazis away?


CelikBas

Nah man, Nazis have a 100% immunity to the poetry debuff. What you need is *slam* poetry, which will make their attacks do 25% less damage and give you an achievement


Sharthog69

I prefer to cast "Compare the Nazis to Voldemort" to give them a -33% attack speed and -20% movement speed debuff, which lets my party's cleric cast "Sing America the Beautiful" which banishes the Nazi from the mortal plane temporarily, allowing us to walk by without killing anyone.


Bountiful_Bollocks

What about waiting until the next election and voting?


AdventurousFee2513

Now, if that's not enough, I'm sorry, it's time for the T-shirts: "Nazis Out”, “Fascists, no thanks”, and if that's not enough, well, I don't know what will be.


Capable_Comb4043

I am happy someone got the reference!


AdventurousFee2513

I was disappointed noone else did.


ScrabCrab

What was it referencing?


AdventurousFee2513

Red Dwarf, where this sorta thing was parodied in an episode about an evil monster.


Capable_Comb4043

A show called Red Dwarf. They are being attacked by a monster that steals their emotions. One has no anger, another has no fear, etc. His leaflet campaign suggestion starts about 1:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g124hpodhgQ


prouxi

"If I was Hitler's mother"


Consistent_Nail

There is a leafleting campaign in The Old Blood :D


digiorno

Some centrist acquaintances told me that I was crazy for thinking it was acceptable to “kill the fascists, just shoot them in the face” should a civil war break out. They were like “but you’re a white man, they won’t come after you.” And I said “I’m a socialist, I’ll be at the top of their list.” I don’t advocate violence but if someone means to kill you then you best beat them to the punch or escape so they don’t have the chance.


DeadT0m

Honestly, the opinion that "they won't come after *you*, so you shouldn't fight them" is so goddamn cowardly I almost have less respect for it than fascists. At least they'll stand up for what they believe in. If you're not willing to fight, step out of the way for the people who are.


CelikBas

“Fuck you, I got mine” strikes again


geekygay

The number of liberals I have seen say something to the effect of "I cannot be part of a community that would treat minorities the way that's being predicting, I'm running away to a blue state, while leaving those minorities behind" is insane. That is not going to help.


teal_appeal

That’s something I’m super torn over rn. I stayed in TX through all the bullshit with voting rights, trans healthcare, etc. in order to continue trying to make things better since I wasn’t directly affected by any of those things (I’m non-binary but not interested in medically transitioning, I live in an area not targeted by the voter suppression, and so on). Since I could stay without being harmed, I wanted to try to help the people who would be harmed but don’t have the resources to leave. Now in the past several months, I’ve been strongly considering leaving since I have a uterus and am directly in the line of fire with the anti abortion stuff. But realistically, I’m still not super vulnerable since I have the resources to go elsewhere if I need care. So I’m really struggling with whether I should continue to try and improve things even though I just want to leave and be somewhere where I know I’ll be able to replace my IUD in 3 years.


meme_master533

I’m in the same line of thinking, being a straight cismale, I’m unlikely to be targeted, which makes me perfect for protecting minorities, and I will do so until I’m dead, or they can protect themselves


geekygay

> So I’m really struggling with whether I should continue to try and improve things even though I just want to leave What ever you can do, what ever you can give now, I'm sure would help, but in that situation eventually it could become untenable. But it will not help to run away for that will only hasten whatever trouble is to come. We despair, I think, because we feel like we're all in this alone. Because we are, in a way, alone in a room looking at a screen. But the counter is to get out, make connections. Make the case for why a different path must be taken. Make people aware of the trouble that is to come and that now and soon are the only times to change it.


byebyecivilrights

Bi black woman here and yeah. Same. I'm terrified. The roe v wade thing is horrifying, obviously, but things like "do plessy v Ferguson next" make me honestly scared for my life. With the way the Supreme Court has been ruling, nothings off the table. I've been thinking about trying to move elsewhere -- maybe Canada, maybe Europe. Still, this is my country and I'll be damned if I let it be taken from me by some fucking fascists.


crunchyboio

They always find someone to target; eventually their actions will affect you, and there won't be anyone left to stand up for you


crystalizeq

I've heard so many people give this reason and I always bring up Martin Niemoller's poem: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Maurice Ogden's [The Hangman](https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-and-human-behavior/chapter-7/hangman) also has a similar message


Defender_of_Ra

> They were like “but you’re a white man, they won’t come after you.” This is exactly why the difference between a fascist and a centrist that's fine with fascism is aesthetic. If we were talking strictly about crime, the centrist acquaintances would be aiding and abetting. I also like how they're declaring, unambiuously, that they're anti-patriotic (and if they claim to be Christian, they absolutely aren't). It's nuts that whiteness got away with been branded as the "normal" ethnicity. What other racial group has the regular social phenomenon of [declaring](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lyft-driver-kicks-passengers-out_n_6283616ee4b0c84db72969f8) "phew, now that we're all the same ethnic group in here, I'd like to make it clear that I hate this country, would cheerfully murder 80% of its population and enslave the survivors, quietly force the 'acceptable' ethnicities into a hiearchy where many of them -- not me -- were second-class citizens at best, and I absolutely hate and violently reject the explicit tenets of our most popular religion but pretend people who look like me are the only ones who count as its adherents. Got a beer?"? That is the most peculiar social phenomenon that I can think of. And even white people who hate that shit with a burning passion still treat it as a *normal* evil. Finding out that a family member is a murderer is a shocking, life-altering revelation, but finding out that a (white) one is pro-genocide is a *bad day*. It is absolutely nightmarish that anyone has gotten used to this, even less that millions of people have and late-night comedians just joke about it. N.B.: Not saying that this is the particular fault of non-chud white people; merely pointing out that several centuries of rightwing success has normalized some amazing stuff.


CelikBas

Also shows a lack of basic historical knowledge. Alongside disabled people, leftists were among the first people to be sent off to death camps, before the Nazis had even come to the decision to try to kill all the Jews. The reason being, of course, that it’s quite a bit easier to go after smaller groups which are perceived more negatively by society (disabled people were viewed as burdens and embarrassments, while leftists could be fairly easily painted as “political extremists” and have public opinion turned against them) than to *immediately* go after a relatively large ethnic group composed of ordinary citizens, neighbors, coworkers, etc. Kind of like how trans people are the current hot-button target of conservative wrath, because “let’s get rid of trans people” is sadly a significantly easier sell for the general populace than “let’s get rid of *all black people*”


geekygay

By design. As bad as fascism is, it's only a means to an end: power. I feel like there has been the wrong emphasises on WW2. By design.... Sure the holocaust was a huge part and must be given its due, but not enough emphasis was placed on the leftists getting killed, because Conservatives kinda liked that part. So all the bad of WW2 is basically just antisemitism and not economics or anything else in the eyes of our history, and not like everything else as well. I view this manipulation on the same level as how Conservatives changed the perception of MLK Jr.


CelikBas

Which also explains why the murder of disabled people and homosexuals have historically been glossed over as well. America *started* the whole “let’s sterilize/kill disabled people to purify the gene pool”, so naturally they’re not going to condemn the Nazis for doing the same. Likewise, the “good guys” were imprisoning and castrating gay men *including Alan Turing, who was indispensable to the war effort*, which means they’re not really in a position to complain about the pink triangles because they would do the same thing if given the chance.


btl0403

Even if I wasn’t gay and disabled, if need be I would more than happy fight for those that WILL be targeted


aslfingerspell

>but you’re a white man, they won’t come after you. That moment when the quiet part is literally said out loud.


Destrorso

My italian blood boils, hang 'em all, upside down


Good_Groceries

Try the sing “Dog Bless Murka” cheat. Do it on the steps of the Capitol. Sing it right after women have been subjugated. Should get you through to the next level. Then, you should be able to privatize social security just as Bill, Hill and Newt intended. Prison industrial complex will expand massively as well. Then, you will be in full neolib Dem mode: indistinguishable from the enemy other than social justice issues you can just pay lip service to. Most importantly, it won’t impact corporate contributions and you can pretend to give a shit!


007SamTheMan

I have a way to complete it whilst keeping the moral high-ground: Shoot them in the head, it instantly kills them. Faster and more merciful than how they treat their opponents (I think, never took the time to look up how the Nazis fought against actual combatants.)


Mechan6649

They mostly lost


Vividknightmare

Fucking nailed it. Only one way to deal with Nazis.


sedulouspellucidsoft

I feel liked these posts are from Russian troll farms trying to spark unrest in the West. (Of which we have evidence of them doing.) Of course violence is acceptable during times of war as depicted in this game, but we should never be the ones to escalate violence. Centrists are more likely to be hawks so isn’t it a straw man to say they are against war? People say a lot of things, it doesn’t mean they will actually do it. If the people in this thread advocating violence were to see a Nazi peacefully protesting, even with violent ideology, they aren’t going to shoot them, because they know they’ll go to prison. They’re all talk, no bite. 99.9% of Nazis are cowards too. But if that 00.1% is convinced by threads like these that violent leftists are coming to kill them, they are going to kill first, and any one of you advocating for violence will be partly responsible because your words sparked it. Escalating tensions is exactly how war starts because each side believes the other is about to kill them so one side decides to act first. It isn’t centrist to be against escalating violence even against people with violent ideologies. “Nonviolence is a powerful and just weapon, which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it.” ~ MLK “I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.” ~ Gandhi


maplea_

>I feel liked these posts are from Russian troll farms trying to spark unrest in the West. (Of which we have evidence of them doing.) My man please go outside and touch some grass


sedulouspellucidsoft

We both can.


_Nyarlethotep_

I bet they didn't even try baking a 'Fuck Trump' cake


DucksEatFreeInSubway

As a 'liberal' I strongly advocate the killing of Nazis. Shoot away.


agent00F

Pretty sure liberals actually promoted the Nazis to NATO, whereas the commies after ww2 sent them to gulags. Stalin once joked about rounding up top Nazi officers and shooting them, which literally made Churchill cry. True story.


thesodaslayer

The soviets used Nazi's post ww2 just like the west did, don't pretend one side was better than the other post was. Soviets had an operation paperclip analog as well as employing many middle nazi officials in East Germany just like the US employed tons of Nazi party officials in West Germany


agent00F

> The soviets used Nazi's post ww2 just like the west did, Yes, they excluded a few nazis from the gulags, vs almost no change in nazis within west german security/nato forces post war. Best part was many ministries like Justice with higher portion of nazis post than before/during, lol. Would you say your lot possess the brain cells or integrity to compare sizes of numbers here?


Larsaf

Stalin literally allied with the Nazis to invade Poland. True story.


agent00F

Yes, notice he created an ultimately successful buffer to win the war. You'd think Poles would appreciate that given their status in Nazi hierarchy, less so aryan liberals (you know, most of Reddit) who would've done very well had it gone the other way. edit: it's curious /u/Larsaf types often pretend to virtue, but always block people to prevent them from replying.


singgoo

Yes I'm sure the Polish people loved what the USSR did to them when they invaded.


BudgieBoi435

Ah yes, im sure the Katyn massacre and other massacres committed by the USSR in Poland was totally necessary to buffer the war.


Larsaf

So NATO just successfully buffered against Putin, you dumb Tankie.


StoryDay7007

I love this


TapesNStuff

[I gotcha bro](https://www.polygon.com/2017/2/7/14534862/wolfenstein-nazi-talk-mod-richard-spencer).


Consistent_Nail

Oh my lord, this is amazing!


DingleTheDongle

I mean, literally "conservatives be like"


Skippy_the_Alien

This fucking killed me


BudgieBoi435

Debate the nazis


Ziomownik

Dude thinks he's playing Undertale lol


abca98

Can you post it but high res?


WarBeastPegasus

He'd be looking to play an RPG.


thenikolaka

You must pass legislation banning books that contain references to CRT. Remember they must be strictly according to your own opinion and you must ensure you know nothing about what CRT means first. Then you must take to the airwaves! Tell them about how the real Nazi state is the left and their mandates! Tip- Never answer which mandates they mean! Just remind them that Fauci is worse than Stalin! Then give them masks, hand sanitizer, and loads of vaccines and … yeah pretty much you can figure it out from there, you’ll have beaten the deep state!


Worldsahellscape19

Oooooooooooof


byro1234512345

Source?


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WhiskeyPit

I remember finding Wolfenstein 3D on my Tandy 1000 back in junior high in the 90s. Super rad. But then I found Doom and have been a left leaning alt middle centrist ever since.


ManagementMean7185

"Hello, I am a centrist liberal-" I dont even want to read whatever dumbass shit they have to say. Heres my upvote. Bye.


ManagementMean7185

All right, I read the post. That was funnylol you had me in the first half, im not gonna lie


seven_seven

I could be wrong, but weren’t the people fighting WW2 (on the American side at least) liberals, not leftists?


Mechan6649

Well it depends person to person. During the great patriotic war the US tried to distance itself from antisemitism and racism a little bit to try to distinguish itself from the nazis, but white supremacy was very much still normalized and accepted in the same way it is now. I’m willing to bet that a good few soldiers fighting for the US probably had their fair share of sympathies for the nazis.


Endgam

Strom Thurmond was one of the US soldiers who fought the Nazis in WW2. Even got a Purple Heart for it. As he shot the Nazis, he said to them "Nice ideology. Think I'll take it." Fortunately, no one's dumb enough to think Strom Thurmond was a good person. [Oh, wait.....](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BE_7VppOI)


DeadT0m

The people fighting WW2 on the American side ran from people like JFK, who was legitimately farther left than most of the Democratic Presidents in recent history, to guys like Patton, who probably would have beaten the shit out of you for calling him a liberal. WW2 wasn't about left vs right as much as it was everyone vs fascism.


CelikBas

The Nazis took most of their eugenicist ideas *from America*. There was a significant Nazi sympathizer movement in the states before Pearl Harbor, and the US turned away Jewish refugees in the early stages. The US didn’t oppose the Nazis out of some ideological conflict or belief that genocide is wrong, they did it because the Nazis posed a *political* threat and was attacking countries the US has alliances with.


Endgam

No, America opposed the Nazis because their buddies attacked us. That's it. That's literally it. There was even talk of siding WITH Hitler because *communism bad*.


CelikBas

Well, America was opposing the Nazis before Pearl Harbor in the form of sending supplies to Britain and being involved with intelligence gathering, they just held back on military intervention because “strategy” (aka they didn’t care enough to do anything beyond the bare minimum of tepidly supporting their longtime allies until they were directly affected)


FerrisTriangle

Yeah, and since a significant portion of US corporations did a significant amount of business with the Nazis so the official US stance was neutrality and "America First" in the early years of the war. It wasn't until there was an attack on American soil that the US got pulled into the war on the Allies side. Shows you how useful liberals are. They will gladly offer material support to the literal Third Reich until it affects them personally.


Endgam

What the hell makes you think leftists who wanted to stop Hitler to begin with didn't fight in the war? The pussy liberals were the ones who wanted to not get involved, while the conservatives wanted to join Hitler because *communism bad*. Fortunately for the world, Japan made the decision for us.


seven_seven

Why would leftists fight in a liberal's imperialist war?


Endgam

I'm sorry, fighting **the fucking Nazis** is a liberal imperialist cause? Get the fuck off my internet.


Slendy5127

Not that they particularly wanted to. It was only until the US got directly affected that we suddenly have a shit about the Nazis


Consistent_Nail

I wish you could do a pacifist run in any of the Wolf games.