Melvin Gordon, 12 team ppr 1QB.
Considering trading him for Laviska Shenault. I'm in total rebuild mode and Shenault manager is in win now mode and needs an RB2, he offered this trade to me. I'm considering it but also wondering if Ruggs is worth more at this point?
If you are trying to sell Higgins, I'd wait a few games. He hasn't been putting up a ton of points so far this year but he will with the targets he's getting. If you are buying, do it now and start with a later first if that's an option.
Thing is no one is ever going to value Kupp enough for you to trade him away unless your trade partner is much lower on a certain player they own than you are. Kupp should yield 2 mid firts of value in a trade but you are going to be hard pressed to find someone willing to give that up despite him always planting his flag at the top when it comes to production at WR. Youre probably watching his best season but someone will always argue age/target competition in an attempt to drive down his price.
I would much rather keep Kupp. Never been big on ARob and hes having a very down year. I would look for another option at WR if you are looking to make a deal.
I gave a 4th and a bench player I was going to drop anyways for Geno in a SF league. My only other QB besides Brady was Davis Mills. I figured it was worth a 4th to me. I’d expect the same for White.
Wouldn’t trade him. You won’t really get what you want and suitors won’t normally reach your price. He’s one of those guys where you gotta feel out your own league
Honestly can’t see anyone paying 2 firsts + for him right now. I’d pay a 1st and a 2nd but I truly believe in Javonte, as for others, not sure if they would or not.
Overvalued if you own him (I do), so he's tough to sell. I like to think I adequately value him, but I know that I probably want too much for him. FWIW, I got him for Baker Mayfield in 10 team superflex in like week 2/3. Baker was my qb4
Yeah he’s more of a buy low right now in my opinion. He’s DKs size. If it’s anyone other than Big Ben throwing it to him, he could be a great WR for many years. I’m holding him everywhere and finally got him in a trade yesterday after going back and forth with the other manager.
I traded Amari cooper, Kirk cousins and a 2022 2nd for claypool, Higgins and Zach wilson. (I have CD so ive been trying to trade cooper for a while with no bites until now)
Originally I got him for Sony earlier in the season, then I recently sold him + 22’ 2nd for Henry and a 3rd. Thought it was decent overall. A 3rd should be his value but I think player trades are more common w him d/t his potential still
I'm in a 9-team 0.5ppr league with 25 roster spots and he's sitting on waivers right now. Not sure if he necessarily should be, but it shows how far his value has fallen. I wouldn't give up more than a third-round pick for him.
How does that work with matchups? I’m in a 10 team league with my friends and we’ve been trying to figure out a way to get one more guy who we are friends with and is always at our drafts into the league. How do you make that work?
I’d say early 2nd for Ruggs at the low end.
Laviska is tough to value. 2nd year, not really getting the looks you think he would without Chark. Either he actually sucks or Urban hates him. Regardless I don’t think I’d pay more than a mid 2nd for him.
Yeah, I was actually trying to buy from a contender. Offered a few guys I’d put around the mid-2nd range and was turned down. Asked for Laviska instead
as a contender I paid a real price & thought it was very fair:
late 22' first (I'm 7-0 with most PF by a bit) two 22' thirds & Mooney for Robert Woods.
love that deal for both of us since he was 1-5 and tanking this year.
What makes you say he’ll be on a new team? The Rams don’t save much at all by cutting him and I don’t really see anyone trading for a 30 year old with almost $16m contract.
Dont need to trade him, they have an OUT soon with some heavy dead cap but its still less than what he is due. I don't see them keeping a 33-34 year old WR around making big bucks.
You said he **could be on a new team next year**. Now you’re jumping to 2025 and the Rams not wanting to hold on to a 33+ year old. Obviously at that point he would likely be a cut candidate. “Next year”, as you first stated, they would lose like $12m by cutting him.
I’d have no problem giving up Gaskin plus something but with Jones in a SF league that seems steep. Unless you’re deep at QB and very TE needy, I wouldn’t make that trade.
I got him from a rebuilder in my league. I sent Dobbins, 2nd, Kmet for Deebo and Jamaal Williams. I think he's a fine hold if you want but looking into if you can get a return you like.
Multiple firsts. I may not be in the majority but I see RB1 production from him for a few more years still. It’d probably take me 3 1sts or equivalent to move him.
10 team, 1 QB, half ppr
Maybe I’m blinded by the fact that he’s become my RB2, but Chase, Pitts and Najee are the only rookies I see as clear cut having more value at the moment
Ah Javonte, yes I would. The others no due to RB scarcity.
Is it just the lack of draft capital that turns people off from Mitchell? I’m struggling to see why I’d get rid of a rookie who looks to be pretty good at football and is the clear lead back in a run first offense.
Not tryin to be a douche, I’m genuinely curious here.
I like Mitchell. I've been trying to buy him (though not nearly for your price)
He's in an offense notorious for a) having the most unpredictable backfield and b) producing rushing yards regardless of who's back there. I think Mitchell is solid, but idk if he's *special*. I like that he's producing and I do think he'll have a strong role for the foreseeable future, but in the long run, I'd rather bet on talent, and all of the players I listed have flashed more upside than him in my eyes.
His ceiling is lower than those players and his floor is unfortunately very murky thanks to the aforementioned San Fran RB shenanigans (Shanny-nigans?) imo
Tyreek Hill 12 TM / SF / .5PPR
Thinking of offering Devonta +1st. Don't want to wait for PHI QB situation to be solved. I already have Chase, JJefferson as 1&2 looking for a nice win now trio.
Same league size, I moved Tyreek and Miles Sanders for an early first, mid 2nd, and who knows 3rd + Etienne, Waddle. May have been able to get more, but my team is an orphan and I'm at least 2-3 years away from competing. I basically wanted 3 firsts worth of value and think I came close.
A 2nd is about right but I'm not moving him in mine.
For the draft capital we spent and Monty's ability to get injured, this is a lightning strike you ride to glory.
I actually traded for him after his first Start, luckily still got him cheap (Herb + 5th for 2 4ths) as a contender and Monty owner I am already very happy lol. Only way I'd trade him right now is if I can package him together with others to get a real nice piece
It’s a tough one. Honestly he’s worth a single 1st based on production, position, age and situation. If his situation changes and he gets more solidified as SFs RB1 then his value skyrockets.
That being said, as an owner of him (with him on the block) no one has offered more than a 2nd+ and every time I go for a single 1st it gets declined.
Does everyone feel this way? SF only has Mitchell and Sermon under contract at RB next year. Can't see Mostert getting another contract after his injury issues. I feel like Mitchell could be their starter next year, and therefore could be worth more.
I don't. I was offered Elijah for a late 1st and passed. He could very well be the lead back for the rest of the year but already injured in the year. Still on the 49ers with Wilson coming back any day. Shanahan team. Would rather use the 1st on less variables than that.
Still don’t know why nfl teams don’t ask for a rep of the 40 with the runner carrying the ball.
Biggest mystery in sports to me, besides the rationale of the tuck rule and baseball’s 1-game wild card playoff.
I paid a late 22 1st + 23 3rd (contending)
May not be a RB2 next season but in a worst-case scenario his value shouldn’t dip below Top 40 RB. Probably a split-type scenario with Akers & him.
If you can convince the guy you’re trading with that Mahomes will play like a sane individual, a high 1st and a 2nd. If you can’t. . .
I put CEH on the reading block this season, got no offers.
Melvin Gordon, 12 team ppr 1QB. Considering trading him for Laviska Shenault. I'm in total rebuild mode and Shenault manager is in win now mode and needs an RB2, he offered this trade to me. I'm considering it but also wondering if Ruggs is worth more at this point?
Courtland Sutton, 12 team .5 PPR 1 QB
Mid 1st IMO
David Carr 12 team SF More or less valuable than Tua and Zach Wilson?
If I’m closer to winning, then Carr. But a rebuilder will probably have Tua & Wilson slightly ahead.
Less than those guys considering he hasn’t been in the league in years.
Touché
SF, 6 pt TD, PPR, TE Premium What would be fair for Russell Wilson?
12 Team, 1QB, PPR: 1) Russell Wilson 2) Tee Higgins
If you are trying to sell Higgins, I'd wait a few games. He hasn't been putting up a ton of points so far this year but he will with the targets he's getting. If you are buying, do it now and start with a later first if that's an option.
Russ - Early 2nd Higgins - Early 1st
TY
Kupp - 12 Team SF I'm rebuilding so looking at picks or young players.
Thing is no one is ever going to value Kupp enough for you to trade him away unless your trade partner is much lower on a certain player they own than you are. Kupp should yield 2 mid firts of value in a trade but you are going to be hard pressed to find someone willing to give that up despite him always planting his flag at the top when it comes to production at WR. Youre probably watching his best season but someone will always argue age/target competition in an attempt to drive down his price.
So I put him on the block and got offered A Rob and a 1st. It's mid now but he should improve. Thoughts @RoyGood?
I would much rather keep Kupp. Never been big on ARob and hes having a very down year. I would look for another option at WR if you are looking to make a deal.
Two players: Jeudy Toney
Heinicke 14 teams SF
Sell for a 2nd before it's to late.
10Team Dynasty SF PPR Jaylen Waddle
Derek Henry- 2QB, 2RB,2WR, 1TE, 2 flex I am a Contender but have had people send offers
If youre a contender with Henry you dont trade him away unless youre making a deal that 100% strengthens your starting lineup on a week to week basis.
OJ Howard .5 ppr 12 team SF (no TEP)
A 4th and a cvs receipt with 3 or more coupons on the bottom.
12 team ppr Elijah Mitchell
1st
12 team SF What would be a reasonable ask for Mike White? Guy who wants him only has 1 QB this week. Was thinking maybe a 3rd?
I gave a 4th and a bench player I was going to drop anyways for Geno in a SF league. My only other QB besides Brady was Davis Mills. I figured it was worth a 4th to me. I’d expect the same for White.
He’s not a starting caliber QB I’d be happy with getting a 4th or 5th.
A third, running a bench WR might be better
A third if you can get it. You're not getting more than that.
Javonte Williams 12 team PPR 1QB
I traded him away with 3 2nd round picks for cook and Mattison.
Wouldn’t trade him. You won’t really get what you want and suitors won’t normally reach your price. He’s one of those guys where you gotta feel out your own league
What would be the price to sell him? 2 1st +?
Honestly can’t see anyone paying 2 firsts + for him right now. I’d pay a 1st and a 2nd but I truly believe in Javonte, as for others, not sure if they would or not.
Tua — 12tm SF
Sold him for a 23 1st and 23 2nd in a 12tm SF
I would need a 22 1st and 2nd to consider. Or a 23 1st. Doubt anyone would pay that.
12 team. 1 QB. 1 PPR Calvin Ridley
Just bought him for Bobby Trees and Goedert from a contender in desperate need of TE help.
Wow that’s awesome for you
Hollywood brown 10 team ppr
Claypool
Overvalued if you own him (I do), so he's tough to sell. I like to think I adequately value him, but I know that I probably want too much for him. FWIW, I got him for Baker Mayfield in 10 team superflex in like week 2/3. Baker was my qb4
I wouldn’t trade him unless were talking mid 1st+. But I’m high on him especially when he finally gets a QB that can throw it over 15 yards.
He's probably number 5/6 wr for me right now. Would like to get some rb depth but can't seem to get anyone interested.
Yeah he’s more of a buy low right now in my opinion. He’s DKs size. If it’s anyone other than Big Ben throwing it to him, he could be a great WR for many years. I’m holding him everywhere and finally got him in a trade yesterday after going back and forth with the other manager.
How much did you trade for him
I traded Amari cooper, Kirk cousins and a 2022 2nd for claypool, Higgins and Zach wilson. (I have CD so ive been trying to trade cooper for a while with no bites until now)
Jalen Reagor PPR
Originally I got him for Sony earlier in the season, then I recently sold him + 22’ 2nd for Henry and a 3rd. Thought it was decent overall. A 3rd should be his value but I think player trades are more common w him d/t his potential still
A 3rd tops. Was a 2nd before start of season. JAG.
3rd
AJ Dillon and Pollard PPR 1QB Any change in value if dealing to the Jones or Zeke owner?
3 firsts for a guy I can only start at IR? Brutal
Lol who are you talking about?
Saquon. too risky for my blood lol
Oh haha yeah as an owner I would love to get 3 firsts out of him but I know it’s mot gonna happen
10 team PPR Trey Sermon
I guess a late 3rd but even then idk
I'm in a 9-team 0.5ppr league with 25 roster spots and he's sitting on waivers right now. Not sure if he necessarily should be, but it shows how far his value has fallen. I wouldn't give up more than a third-round pick for him.
what platform supports 9-team leagues?
We're on ESPN. it's an odd setup, but it works well enough for our purposes.
How does that work with matchups? I’m in a 10 team league with my friends and we’ve been trying to figure out a way to get one more guy who we are friends with and is always at our drafts into the league. How do you make that work?
Oh nice- we have one team on a bye each week, so an even number of teams are playing.
Ruggs, 12 team half PPR Viska, same
I’d say early 2nd for Ruggs at the low end. Laviska is tough to value. 2nd year, not really getting the looks you think he would without Chark. Either he actually sucks or Urban hates him. Regardless I don’t think I’d pay more than a mid 2nd for him.
I'd roll viska over the guys projected at the end of the 1st rd in the '22 rookie draft. He's flashed a few times.
Offered an early 2022 2nd and got declined
Mid-late 2nd for both
Jimmy Garopolo in superflex
Despite Lance in waiting, I figure Jimmy has value as a bridge QB for quite a few years. I wouldn’t move him for less than an earlyish 2nd.
Probably a 2nd in sf...
Maybe a late one
3/4th rounder at the most. Very meh really life QB. Dud in fantasy.
Michael Pittman Jr
Late firstish
2nd
Mid first
This is correct. 2nd is not enough.
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I'd pay a mid-low 2nd. Kind of sick of SF gameplay honestly. Basically buying is too high but selling him is too low, so just hold.
Yeah, I was actually trying to buy from a contender. Offered a few guys I’d put around the mid-2nd range and was turned down. Asked for Laviska instead
Javonte Williams, PPR, 1 QB
2+ 1sts is a starting point in 1QB
I think mid-1st and a 2nd. Asking was 2x 1sts.
1st+
He was already a mid/high first and has looked great. Two firsts and perhaps a player. First and second is extremely low.
Top-5 1st + a 2nd or other piece with upside seems about right
Dude in my league wants a high first and high second. He also said that may not be enough.
Robert woods 1/2 ppr
Elijah moore straight up?
A couple weeks ago I paid Sermon, Nico Collins, and a late first for Woods and ARob.
as a contender I paid a real price & thought it was very fair: late 22' first (I'm 7-0 with most PF by a bit) two 22' thirds & Mooney for Robert Woods. love that deal for both of us since he was 1-5 and tanking this year.
I think that's a big overpay. Most of my leagues I'm pretty sure you could aquire him for.kser to a late first alone.
try it and I'm pretty sure you couldn't lol unless it's a taco league, no one is gonna just dump Woods for a second.
A second. He’s 29 and could be on a new team next year.
What makes you say he’ll be on a new team? The Rams don’t save much at all by cutting him and I don’t really see anyone trading for a 30 year old with almost $16m contract.
Dont need to trade him, they have an OUT soon with some heavy dead cap but its still less than what he is due. I don't see them keeping a 33-34 year old WR around making big bucks.
You said he **could be on a new team next year**. Now you’re jumping to 2025 and the Rams not wanting to hold on to a 33+ year old. Obviously at that point he would likely be a cut candidate. “Next year”, as you first stated, they would lose like $12m by cutting him.
I bet you can get him for a high second from a rebuilder but he’s better than that
TJ Hockenson 12 team .5 PPR , no TEP
Bought him a few weeks ago for Cam Akers and a late 2022 1st.
Someone offered me him if I give up Daniel Jones and Gaskin in SF
I’d have no problem giving up Gaskin plus something but with Jones in a SF league that seems steep. Unless you’re deep at QB and very TE needy, I wouldn’t make that trade.
Yeah I got him to throw in a 2nd and 3rd but still don’t know if I will accept
I’d do that
Deebo Samuel, as a rebuilding team. Do you think he’s a hold or a sell? And what would you look for if you sold.
Hard sell. Very very very very hard sell.
I got him from a rebuilder in my league. I sent Dobbins, 2nd, Kmet for Deebo and Jamaal Williams. I think he's a fine hold if you want but looking into if you can get a return you like.
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1st late and a 3rd. Maybe give a young player and get a 2nd back.
I hope you’re contending. Guy in my league is asking for two firsts.
Derrick Henry 12 team SF, 0.5 PPR
Most everybody I've seen who's an owner would take in the neighborhood of 3 firsts if not more to move Henry.
Multiple firsts. I may not be in the majority but I see RB1 production from him for a few more years still. It’d probably take me 3 1sts or equivalent to move him.
Laviska Shenault 10 Team SF Would love to trade for an RB
Damien Harris / Eli Mitchell could be a good target
As an Eli Mitchell owner, I’d probably need a late first on top of viska to consider it
Really? Also a Eli owner here. That seems overly optimistic. What’s your league format?
10 team, 1 QB, half ppr Maybe I’m blinded by the fact that he’s become my RB2, but Chase, Pitts and Najee are the only rookies I see as clear cut having more value at the moment
You wouldn't take Javonte, Smith, Waddle, Toney, or Bateman straight up for Mitchell? Nevermind Lawrence
Ah Javonte, yes I would. The others no due to RB scarcity. Is it just the lack of draft capital that turns people off from Mitchell? I’m struggling to see why I’d get rid of a rookie who looks to be pretty good at football and is the clear lead back in a run first offense. Not tryin to be a douche, I’m genuinely curious here.
I like Mitchell. I've been trying to buy him (though not nearly for your price) He's in an offense notorious for a) having the most unpredictable backfield and b) producing rushing yards regardless of who's back there. I think Mitchell is solid, but idk if he's *special*. I like that he's producing and I do think he'll have a strong role for the foreseeable future, but in the long run, I'd rather bet on talent, and all of the players I listed have flashed more upside than him in my eyes. His ceiling is lower than those players and his floor is unfortunately very murky thanks to the aforementioned San Fran RB shenanigans (Shanny-nigans?) imo
Yeah I don’t see it that way. Same league format too. Regardless, let’s hope Eli leads us to the ship!!
Tyreek Hill 12 TM / SF / .5PPR Thinking of offering Devonta +1st. Don't want to wait for PHI QB situation to be solved. I already have Chase, JJefferson as 1&2 looking for a nice win now trio.
Same league size, I moved Tyreek and Miles Sanders for an early first, mid 2nd, and who knows 3rd + Etienne, Waddle. May have been able to get more, but my team is an orphan and I'm at least 2-3 years away from competing. I basically wanted 3 firsts worth of value and think I came close.
Doubt it gets accepted, probably need to add a 1st at least.
I'm offering plus a first already. You think I'd need 2 firsts?
I think you'll need 2 firsts + smith as well
I meant I think you'll need to add a first to your listed offer for it to get accepted. It doesn't hurt to try one first though.
Yes
DeAndre Hopkins PPR
1st and 2nd
12 team SF Sam Darnold
As the seller I’d want a first, as a buyer I wouldn’t give more than a second.
A first seems like too much at this point and I’m a Darnold truther. Maybe like an early 2nd and a depth piece.
At least a late first
2nd
Tom Brady .5ppr 1QB 10 team. Contending, upgrade.
I'd see if a 2nd or 2nd + 3rd would do it. First feels like too much even if it's late.
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I got him for a 3rd before last year. Couldn’t believe it.
Joe Mixon
I’d give up Monty and a second for him.
Just went for Juju, a likely late ‘23 1st, and late ‘23 3rd this morning in a 12 team ppr SF, felt reasonable imo
Khalil Herbert
A 2nd is about right but I'm not moving him in mine. For the draft capital we spent and Monty's ability to get injured, this is a lightning strike you ride to glory.
I actually traded for him after his first Start, luckily still got him cheap (Herb + 5th for 2 4ths) as a contender and Monty owner I am already very happy lol. Only way I'd trade him right now is if I can package him together with others to get a real nice piece
2nd
Elijah Mitchell
If we redrafted this class, I think he’d be a mid to early first. So I’d need at least a mid first to move him
It’s a tough one. Honestly he’s worth a single 1st based on production, position, age and situation. If his situation changes and he gets more solidified as SFs RB1 then his value skyrockets. That being said, as an owner of him (with him on the block) no one has offered more than a 2nd+ and every time I go for a single 1st it gets declined.
Late first. Younger/slightly slower Raheem Mostert
Does everyone feel this way? SF only has Mitchell and Sermon under contract at RB next year. Can't see Mostert getting another contract after his injury issues. I feel like Mitchell could be their starter next year, and therefore could be worth more.
I don't. I was offered Elijah for a late 1st and passed. He could very well be the lead back for the rest of the year but already injured in the year. Still on the 49ers with Wilson coming back any day. Shanahan team. Would rather use the 1st on less variables than that.
Combine 40 times Mostert: 4.32 Mitchell: 4.33 While you’re technically right it’s basically negligible
Not on film it isn’t. Or speedometers.
Mostert is always the fastest runner on a season by MPH. And looks it too. 40 times aren’t everything
Still don’t know why nfl teams don’t ask for a rep of the 40 with the runner carrying the ball. Biggest mystery in sports to me, besides the rationale of the tuck rule and baseball’s 1-game wild card playoff.
Or wearing pads and a helmet..
Good point
12 team SF PPR Darrel Henderson
I paid a late 22 1st + 23 3rd (contending) May not be a RB2 next season but in a worst-case scenario his value shouldn’t dip below Top 40 RB. Probably a split-type scenario with Akers & him.
At least a first.
Offered a first for him and got rejected. The team that has him is also competing though
I sold for a mid 2023 1st.
Probably a mid-late first if I’m contending, he’s been really good this year
Gave a 2023 1st I'd acquired from another team
Yeah, I have Henderson and offered him to some contenders for a '23 1st and got rejected both times. Just trying to see if I was off on my value.
1st sounds right for him rn.
12 Team SF PPR Brandin Cooks
Late first, early second
10 Team SF Trey Lance
At least two high firsts or a B tier QB and a 1st.
10 Team SF Tannehill
A first plus a midrange player
2 late 1sts
David Johnson. Single QB .5 PPR 10 team
The value will go up with Ingram leaving but still bottom of the barrel
If you were a competing team this year what would you pay? 2nd, 3rd?
If I’m competing in a 10 team I would hope I had better options but definitely 3rd at the most.
Yea I agree. Looking for a emergency depth piece. Undefeated in first place but don’t have a ton of depth at RB right now
yeah I agree with the 3rd at most. that offense is so bad that even a handful more opportunities doesn't mean a lot. what's your rb room look like
Aaron Jones 2QB PPR
I recently paid Rondale, Khalil Herbert and a 2022 first (mid, hopefully late 1st) for him.
Im more looking for a higher end WR
could try for DJ Moore or Terry McLaurin. that caliber of WR is probably about what he's worth. might be able to get another piece with that
2QB .5 PPR Jones owner wanted Ridley + 2022 1st proj 1.01-1.02
Dang. Ridley owner us another contender that said he likes his team and is not willing to trade :/
Yea, I think Ridley for Jones straight up is my personal value but I also really like him
Might get 2 firsts from a contender, his actual value is probably something like 1.5 firsts, if you can figure out what that means.
I am a contender, but i have 5 pretty good RBs and i desperately need an elite WR
shop him around. He should probably go straight up to a rb needy team for any WR not named Jefferson or Chase.
CEH in 16 team ppr?
If you can convince the guy you’re trading with that Mahomes will play like a sane individual, a high 1st and a 2nd. If you can’t. . . I put CEH on the reading block this season, got no offers.