By - Ornerytyt
The car industry is not to blame! They are only filling demand, if we didn't buy SUVs they wouldn't make them.
It is really that simple.
Facts, blame the soccer mums instead
Honestly SUV buyers are younger and younger now, it's the old people that's driving sedans now
Soccer moms aren't in their early 20s
Soccer moms are usually in their 40s/50s
Sounds a bit late medically but seems normal to me, also soccer moms usually has more than 3 kids, so it depends
More like 30's -40's unless she had a kid in her 40's
Early twenties aren't buying new cars. Average age of a new car buyer is like 53 so... Still the old folks driving sales
Not true most car companies try to sell people in their 30s to 40s this is because people in those ages have more flexible spending. At that age group typically they would move up to a better position at work or get a much higher pay. Plus they know what direction they are going in life, family, fancy car, house etc.
Companies knows this, people in their 20s don't have real money they're usually just out of college or working a crabby job, people in their 50s and 60s are have a stricter budget, typically don't spend money outside their needs. 70+ It is about retirement age.
A quick Google search shows that I'm exactly right, I actually looked it up before posting.
Keep in mind I didn't say who car companies are marketing toward, only who is the actual average buyer. I can understand that companies are marketing toward a certain age in the hopes of poaching customers and while they're purchases aren't insignificant they're not the largest group purchasing cars. Interestingly enough your claim of lower age for average buyer was true a decade or so ago.
I'm 28, are you saying I'm old? But I won't lie the lack of sedans saddens me day by day, releases by releases.
Excluding car enthusiasts, most young people buys SUV/Crossovers now
Unfortunately yes. Those who can afford it buy suv/xuv. Those who can't buys autos sedans.
I'm currently willing to buy a barebones variant just for a manual sedan and it's also the only new car model that have m/t in my country. Maybe in a year or so, just gonna start researching my current cost of using a 37 year old car that was hand me downed 10 years ago.
I really want a good wagon... With a manual please. I know of two still offered
You're 28! Like are you retiring next year boomer /s
29 is an odd number to retire. Make 30 then I'll happily retire from this world.
Older folks do like crossovers - high hip point makes getting out easier.
Well then fuck the younins that buy SUVs
Soccer moms were young once
Not when they're buying minivans tho
Back in my day we crammed 5 people into a Geo Metro.
0-40 depended on people getting out helping it get into 3rd.
Which doesn’t make sense
People aren’t having as much kids and don’t want them (everything is expensive everyday)
SUV & Crossovers nowadays are more of a symbol of freedom, adventure and lifestyle, instead of just some boring people carrier, plus nowadays SUV & Crossovers are about as spacious as a big hatchback
That's only half the story...
There's not a single thing a CRV can do that my Fit couldn't do. Unless your car is slammed, any hatchback or sedan will get you into any BLM campsite out in the boondocks, or through even most remote fire roads.
And if you somehow need more than that, a fwd CRV isn't gonna be your answer.
The real reason is safety. Most new full size trucks won't even see a Miata on the road. The extra height of a x-over improves visibility in traffic. And the extra inertia reduces whiplash if they get rear ended.
Basically cars are getting bigger in an arms race against other cars
Aren't they also excluded from some safety rules because of their size
I blame crumbling infrastructure. I too am now in an SUV (Lexus GX, so at least it’s a cool-ish one. Jeremiah know!) because as much as I loved my W140 S class, 528i Touring, SAAB 9-3 hatch, and others, I love that I’m no longer regularly replacing bent rims, blown struts, A-arms, wheel bearings and oil pans. Not to mention now that my town is filled with meth’d out lifted bro dozers, I don’t really wanna take one of their welded FuckFab bumpers directly to the face in a wreck. I drove my parents Taurus wagon a few weeks back and I felt likeI was in a slammed Miata. Everywhere I went I had some Ram’s FuckFab pressed up against the back glass with its aftermarket laser beam LEDs burning a hole in the back of my head. Shit was fucking stressful AF. Then I climbed back up into my Lexus bank vault with its ladder frame, V8, solid rear axle and curtain airbags and let out one of those “not doing that again” sighs.
I miss cars so bad, ..but I can’t say I’m gonna go back to one anytime soon.
Well said. *Cheer*
Thank ya! Cheers to you too, bish!
Yeah I have no problem with ladder frame and solid axle SUV's because they are actually capable of doing what they advertise, it's all the cars that pretend to be offroaders (crossovers and wanna be SUV's) that I hate, especially because they're marketed to people who live in cities that would never even consider driving down a gravel road
Also I've never been in my lowered wagon and felt worried about someone behind me, you probably were just not used to the ride height, I feel more uncomfortable in lifted cars like my new hilux than my wagon
"We". I miss station wagons.
It's even worse for EVs. The only thing that comes close is KIA EV6 but that's still just a low crossover.
People are so mad the businesses are making decisions that most of the public want lol. They aren’t stupid
Ye but at least not disrespect the amazing cars and name them something new and lame like they should be
Again it is just supply and demand issue. If they are going to sell more SUVs by naming them "Mustang, Corvette" etc... they will. The reason is that they are a car COMPANY, and their number 1 goal is to make money. They are not here to make cars to please car guys (we probably make up < 0.5% of their total sales).
If the consumer generally doesn't like this type of naming then we should just stop buying them, but we don't so they won't stop naming them like this.
There is a really good article/story here [https://youtu.be/\_ApPIEnAjns](https://youtu.be/_ApPIEnAjns) on what happens (in this case a bike company) when the company solely focus on making a awesome engineered product at the expense of everything else.
\-- like any buiness you have to make what the people want and right now it is SUV's, in the 70-90's it was sedans.
Yeah I mean the Mach E is labeled as a "Mustang", the Model X is often listed as a hatch or SUV on auto sites, and favorite models like Mazda 3's and Impreza hatches are getting more and more spotlight.
In addition to filling demands, government writes goofy regulations that incentivize weird behavior
No they are to blame, yes crossovers are the big money makers and no I don’t expect them to not sell what makes money, that’s their job. However there is nothing stopping them from just giving the suvs a new name and leaving the mustang and eclipse name out of it.
The biggest reason why we got a CX-5 was because it handled like a car. Very few full size wagons/sedans even available.
At this rate my other full size hybrid sedan might just retain value for years.
the industry is the one pushing SUVs though. theyre the ones that told the masses that SUVs are cool. if they all of a sudden started pushing sedans as hard we'd see a spike in sedan sales
OK... but why is Toyota making the GR86 if all people wants are SUVs ?
I know why there is a Yaris GR though, to have a car in Rally competitions.
Watch donut video about ceo of toyota, toyoda. He is huge car guy himself, whats why
I mean the cx-5 is a thing
Plus it is an mx5 suv same light signature and all
Edit : it's more the cx-3
What do you mean , the Miata is turning into an electric pickup truck. S/
Bot stole my post
Man just reposted a top post from just less than a year ago
Didn’t even change my title :(
Cross-overs are like the orthopedic shoe of cars.
It feels like the automotive industry is killing the very thing that I love. This hits deep.
I will admit i do like cross overs and i do think spazzed out engine swapped turbo'd older CRVs, RAV4s are cool. At the same time im pissed at Mitsubishi for ruining the Eclipse
My monkey brain only understand SUV or car, me no like crossover
Reject suv return to wagon
I don’t understand why people are soooo obsessed with suvs. I loved having an suv as my first car (xc90) because I slept in it, hauled bikes, carried shit and it was still a ton of fun to drive.
99% of people I meet with suvs could literally manage with literally a smart car. You don’t need a massive interior to pick up the shopping once a week.
My best friends mum had a Escalade. All she did with that monstrosity was drive her kids to school and swimming lessons.
Yhea thats true car industry as become such shit
I swear if they make a hybrid CUV and call it the "Miata" there will be hell to pay.
I blame car companies for not being creative enough to come up with a new name for their cars.
I hate the new mustang
Doesn't James drive an SUV? ;-)