I'd suggest you have your coach email their school administration with a description of their behaviors and how it is impacting those in your debate community
As a debater on the Minnesota PF circuit, I can second this.
Edina PF’s behavior is genuinely atrocious. This season, I have personally seen or heard of:
⁃ Edina varsity debaters stalking and harassing JV girls from rival schools
⁃ Edina debaters, supported by PF coaching staff, leveling cheating accusations at other teams coaches and attempting to get them kicked out of tournaments
⁃ Blatant cheating at the novice state tournament
⁃ Falsified evidence, which they openly brag about to other debaters
⁃ Condescending behavior in round to female judges and teams
So yeah, Edina PF is making Minnesota debate an incredibly unpleasant and unsafe community, especially if you’re a girl. I would agree that people should be bringing this to the school’s administration if you have similar experiences.
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From an outside viewpoint, it is very hard to take any of these posts seriously due to a lack of evidence and background. Your post doesn't explain anything further than "state is just the icing on the cake."
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I would like to see some warranting to these claims. Dropping an entire program en mass is not a solution. I am sure there are plenty of fine people who debate for Edina who should not be punished for their peers actions. Perhaps you should reach out to their school administration both regarding their debaters actions as well as the coach who is being mentioned in other threads.
Don’t act confused as if you don’t know what behavior people are talking about. Pretty much everybody I know in MN PF has a horror story about debating an Edina team - rude in CX, constantly talking over girls, insulting us out of round, bragging about falsified evidence.
I find it funny that you want people to “come to you” if they have a problem with your behavior when you smear anyone who does that as a liar and try to get them kicked out of tournaments.
And on the point about Blake - yes, Edina teams were allowed to compete, but I know for a fact that you were banned, because you couldn’t stop stalking and harassing a team of JV girls. Girls who you now label as “cheaters” and “liars” because they spoke up about your behavior.
Maybe you should look around and try to understand why people choose an internet post instead of coming to you.
>If anybody has real concerns - how about you reach out to us
I'll add that all Edina PF teams who were at state have contact information on the wiki. If we are doing something wrong, please let us know because we truly want to fix it. We are actively seeking opportunities to repair our reputation.
In my view and in the opinion of several very reputable judges that I had against women, I was not misogynistic or rude and was overly respectful in cross, etc. especially because I know that Edina isn't looked upon fondly and I do not want drama. If I offended any person in any way *PLEASE* tell me because I genuinely do not know what went wrong. You can email me anonymously with any number of temporary mail sites available on the internet. Getting judges to drop us in retaliation isn't a step towards improving Edina PF or the debate space more broadly for women.
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While Edina was disruptive at the GOBLIN tournament, I feel that this post is DRAGGIN this out of proportion. The only way to solve DEEZ issues is by reaching out to them one on one and addressing actual concerns. Contrary to popular belief, I disagree with the common belief that Edina JS’s EUROPE argument on the PUTIN/Russia topic perpetuated harmful ideals.
Sincerely, LANDON BOFA
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As a debater on the Minnesota PF circuit, I can second this. Edina PF’s behavior is genuinely atrocious. This season, I have personally seen or heard of: ⁃ Edina varsity debaters stalking and harassing JV girls from rival schools ⁃ Edina debaters, supported by PF coaching staff, leveling cheating accusations at other teams coaches and attempting to get them kicked out of tournaments ⁃ Blatant cheating at the novice state tournament ⁃ Falsified evidence, which they openly brag about to other debaters ⁃ Condescending behavior in round to female judges and teams So yeah, Edina PF is making Minnesota debate an incredibly unpleasant and unsafe community, especially if you’re a girl. I would agree that people should be bringing this to the school’s administration if you have similar experiences.
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From an outside viewpoint, it is very hard to take any of these posts seriously due to a lack of evidence and background. Your post doesn't explain anything further than "state is just the icing on the cake." I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I would like to see some warranting to these claims. Dropping an entire program en mass is not a solution. I am sure there are plenty of fine people who debate for Edina who should not be punished for their peers actions. Perhaps you should reach out to their school administration both regarding their debaters actions as well as the coach who is being mentioned in other threads.
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Don’t act confused as if you don’t know what behavior people are talking about. Pretty much everybody I know in MN PF has a horror story about debating an Edina team - rude in CX, constantly talking over girls, insulting us out of round, bragging about falsified evidence. I find it funny that you want people to “come to you” if they have a problem with your behavior when you smear anyone who does that as a liar and try to get them kicked out of tournaments. And on the point about Blake - yes, Edina teams were allowed to compete, but I know for a fact that you were banned, because you couldn’t stop stalking and harassing a team of JV girls. Girls who you now label as “cheaters” and “liars” because they spoke up about your behavior. Maybe you should look around and try to understand why people choose an internet post instead of coming to you.
>If anybody has real concerns - how about you reach out to us I'll add that all Edina PF teams who were at state have contact information on the wiki. If we are doing something wrong, please let us know because we truly want to fix it. We are actively seeking opportunities to repair our reputation. In my view and in the opinion of several very reputable judges that I had against women, I was not misogynistic or rude and was overly respectful in cross, etc. especially because I know that Edina isn't looked upon fondly and I do not want drama. If I offended any person in any way *PLEASE* tell me because I genuinely do not know what went wrong. You can email me anonymously with any number of temporary mail sites available on the internet. Getting judges to drop us in retaliation isn't a step towards improving Edina PF or the debate space more broadly for women. \--Ansel
While Edina was disruptive at the GOBLIN tournament, I feel that this post is DRAGGIN this out of proportion. The only way to solve DEEZ issues is by reaching out to them one on one and addressing actual concerns. Contrary to popular belief, I disagree with the common belief that Edina JS’s EUROPE argument on the PUTIN/Russia topic perpetuated harmful ideals. Sincerely, LANDON BOFA
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