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Heath and Mariah commitment issues

I think it’s a general consensus that Mariah is one of a kind woman and anyone lucky enough to be with her would know to lock her down

We also know heath hasn’t proposed

Everytime I see a heath and Mariah post everyone always says they’ll break up and heath will marry the next girl

My question is why

Why do some men do that, knowing they have a great girl ?

nowhere_near_home

Bruh. You only are seeing a limited sphere of people's actual lives. What they want you to see. You have no clue what they're thinking, what's going on behind the scenes. Don't romanticize creators, and don't oversimplify their lives. They're human and have the same motivations, concerns, and thoughts you do.


TipsyTorby

Love the “bruh” lmao


wiklr

The real question is why people here are so invested in their relationship when they don't even like either of them to begin with. It's giving banking on their breakup so Mariah will spill secrets about the VS.


Strange_Event_8521

I was using them as an example. I was literally asking why men do that lmaoo


Pleasant-Cattle-7311

Super valid question, it just might be better suited for a different subreddit like r/marriage or r/relationships. People will have genuine answers. I read a post the other day with a similar question.


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nowhere_near_home

One million different reasons. Some external. Some internal. Some environmental. Sometimes you’re unsure about the fit, what you want, conflict with goals, etc. the list goes on. There is an old saying “show me the ‘perfect’ partner and I’ll show you someone whose tired of fucking them” Not that perfect is in quotes.


Grammasweets

There are tons of subs where you could have asked that extremely generalized question. You came here to gossip, just own it.


Boggysix89

Who cares? Isn’t that what we are all here for? I mean this is Reddit after all and it’s a David dobrik Reddit at that. Like, what else do you expect to be discussed on here? Stocks? I don’t get why people make comments like this.


Strange_Event_8521

I just figured you guys know exactly what I was talking about :/


Boggysix89

We do - that person needs to realize where they are at lol


Loosebooty6969

You fucking nailed that. Couldn’t be broken down any simpler.


Appropriate-Desk4268

I think people just gotta chill, they live in a city with different standards for marriage and have said they don’t want to be there for life. Easily could be as simple as saving up money and grind working for X amount of years and then ride off into the sunset married where they want to end up. Edit: Or possibly trying to buy a home in their dream location, so they can start the process moving/vacation home. As for why dudes do that, no idea! I can’t even imagine getting in a new relationship straight away from a long term relationship, kinda dumb of them to lead someone on that long just to break up imo


Boggysix89

Yeah but marriage isn’t going to stop them from grinding or working hard and then moving out of state. They are already making more than the average person, I don’t think marriage will change that at all. Having a child might, but not marriage.


Appropriate-Desk4268

they are engaged 🥰


Boggysix89

I saw! That’s great


Loveya448

Cost of a wedding might


Boggysix89

Then don’t have one. Go to the court house. If you want to get married,nothing will stop you.


Loveya448

I could maybe see Mariah and Heath skipping a wedding, but I doubt it


Britta901

Mariah is that you? How do you know how she is?


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Juunesco

Plus, bot every one needs or want to be married. People need to chill with this


Boggysix89

Yes, but more than likely you and your partner are okay with this. Mariah has talked openly about wanting a family and marriage and has hinted that she wants a ring soon. I think that’s what has people speculating. I think it’s an issue when one person becomes ready and the other isn’t.


Dwightkschrute723

It’s not like Heath hasn’t said he doesn’t want a family. They have openly discussed what they would name their kid and the fact they want to raise their family on the East Coast.


Boggysix89

If that’s the case, then why aren’t they married yet? If a man wants something, especially a woman, he wouldn’t wait this long. Period. It’s very strange.


ExcitingFalcon3531

They could easily just lie and say “we’re married!” Irl it really doesn’t matter


Inside_Confusion_304

They just had her parents on the pod so i think they’re good


Itsmeeeeyesitis

I don’t know how valid this is, but I thought it was interesting. Some dude on tik tok was talking about this topic of men not proposing, and he said that men will sometimes stall on proposing not bc of the woman but bc THEY don’t feel established enough professionally (or whatever else) to be a husband. Food for thought… 🤔


Strange_Event_8521

This is the type of answer i was looking for thanks lol


Boggysix89

This is very true! In my opinion, If your with a good man, he will have that mindset. Although, I don’t think that’s the case with heath, he has made plenty of money over the years to get married and support a family.


chubonabox

Leave this poor couple alone oh my goodness


jarsiann

Everyone says this or just Boggy?


Boggysix89

I mean, Matt even joked about it on the roast. Pretty sure, it’s something that has been talked about even within the group.


Some-Jackfruit-2773

I personally feel like both are super confident in their relationship and in it for the long haul. I also think they will marry when time is right for both of them. Mariah is a super talented woman with career goals. I think she is establishing herself in her industry, and I also know there have been tons if weddings in. Thier friend and family groups, so they may just be waiting till time is right to make is special and not just part of a crowd. But I think Heath is a smart guy and knows how special she is. And I think they are both committed.


YaaaDontSay

People saying we don’t know these influencers… Like yeah sure, but take that out of the equation. Knowing Mariah’s religion, and how everyone else is getting married, on top of the fact that they’ve been together for an incredibly long time, it’s strange that heath has not made a commitment to her. Not even a proposal for a wedding in a few years. It may not be our business but it is super weird imo. Someone mentioned they thought he was proposing at thanksgiving and I thought it could happen! But nope


Strange_Event_8521

It seems tortures looking in no?


tacobellie

This aged poorly


Strange_Event_8521

THANK GAWHD


HelpfulHistorian7747

They’ve said in their early videos that they are not in a rush to get married because they know they’ll be together forever


naograce74

I have seen everyone saying everywhere that Mariah said she wanted to get married young and that Heath needs to propose etc. I keep saying - she has the option to leave. If she wants to get married asap, there is isn't a chance that he doesn't know and either they have discussed a timeline or she has the opportunity to leave if she is unhappy with his timeline. It seems like people look at him as the bad guy for not proposing and her as a victim caught in a relationship she cannot leave because she loves him. They are full grown adults - I don't understand why people dont think they talk about these things. Maybe the people saying these things are really young, but are young people even in to ex-vlog squad members these days? I dont know. I just keep saying - you know she could leave if - he isnt going to propose, if she wants to be married before him, if she wants to have kids asap, if he doesnt want to get married, if she is unhappy and on and on.... I get that leaving isnt easy when people love each other but the fact is, if he is wasting her time, she has that option. Not this OP but so many really do seem to think she is trapped because at some point she said she wanted to get married young - as if people cant change.


Boggysix89

This is an extremely naïve take. No one thinks she is trapped, but relationships are not always that easy to leave. They have been together for 6 years after all and I’m sure she loves him. There are millions of couples who stay together longer than they should without a ring, just because they are. still holding out hope or they love the other person too much to just walk away. The fact that you are looking at this so black and white, is just unrealistic. I think everyone in this sub can agree that heath loves Mariah, but for one reason or another, he may not want to marry her. It happens all the time in relationships. It just may take both of them a long time to be honest with themselves and figure it out. On top of that finding a way to communicate that to each other without hurting each other.


naograce74

It is not naive to say sometimes it is what has to be done if you dont want the same things. Of course people stay too long. The fact is, people said she couldn't leave because she loved him. She couldnt leave because she wanted to marry him - that is what I meant by trapped - they made it sound as though Heath is the bad guy keeping her there as though she is a damsel in distress I was literally standing up for both of them. They seem to think that loving someone is all it takes to have a happy future. If you arent headed in the same direction and dont want the same things, leaving is the best thing to do no matter how hard it is, continuing to stay while hoping the other person will change is what is naive. I hope that they are on the same page and that it is everyone else that is impatient and they are fine on their own timeline. However if they are not, it is not naive to say she can decide to leave in her defense or that she has that ability in his defense. I have been there and stayed too long - it wasnt his fault we werent on the same page and I had the option to leave no matter how much I loved him or wanted to marry him. That isnt naive, its real. I left. We were engaged a month later, married a year and a half later and have been married for a very long time.


YaaaDontSay

Lmfao


ParamedicAdmirable35

I think i know why heath doesnt do it but i dont wana be fucked up bc i might be wrong but let the man be idk why people always expect u to get married in the first 1-7 yrs let that shit 10,20,30 yrs let em be for fucksakes


Strange_Event_8521

Why do you think the won’t tho


naograce74

Some men do this because they say they arent ready to commit but they really want/need something the woman they are in love with doesnt have/offer/believe etc, then they meet someone who is what they need and quickly realize they are ready - truthfully they were always ready, they just werent with the right person. I think that Heath and Mariah love each other, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do get married. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they break up because they are too much like best friends and the chemistry kinda fades away. However, I am married to my best friend and we were very young when we got together and it took us 10 years to get married because he wasnt ready but I was - so it is possible that he has a timeframe in mind or whatever - the thing is, if Mariah really wants to be married asap, they have discussed it tons and either have an understanding or she will decide he has wasted her time for too long and leave. I hope they work it out, and I hope there is a lot more obvious love and chemistry between them that we dont see since the podcast is 99% of what we see anymore (not much chance to see their relationship playout) - perhaps in private, they are as happy and enamored with each other as they always were and a wedding is right around the corner - but it is impossible to know. I just hope they are happy.


Strange_Event_8521

Thank you so much for your insight


Boggysix89

Something changed once heath lost the weight. Heath used to constantly gush over Mariah but lately he hasn’t and there have been a few times where he has rolled his eyes while she’s talking. I am curious if heath thinks he can do better? Five years is a long time to be together without marriage, when one person is wanting it. Not everyone has to get married, but it should be a mutual decision. If one person has been expressing it, especially publicly and nothing is happening, then that could be cause for concern. But you also have to remember, they are intertwined from a business standpoint as well, and something tells me they would have been broken up a long time ago if it wasn’t for their business.


AttentionNearby2729

You can literally watch his YouTube videos even when he lost weight he continued to flirt with Mariah and hit on her in videos bffr. They just brought her parents on the podcast, almost makes me feel like hes getting them ready to be on camera.


Significant-Ear-8597

Exactly, at that point in a relationship you're just not on the same page, it's not even coming from a hating standpoint it's just facts lol


Salsabeans16

Lol


Strange_Event_8521

Thang gawd


imfrompatersonbaby

Aged bad


Strange_Event_8521

Thanks god


Remarkable_Emotion29

Seeing this after the proposal announcement lol


Strange_Event_8521

Thank gooood he did it soooooo happy for her


Burrito3125

This post aged poorly


scoobyfan2

Keep in mind, its been a pattern that if a relationship seems perfect online or on social media, theyre usually not happy behind closed doors. Thats probably why everyone keeps making those predictions. Plus so many people are confused bc Heath and Mariah seem so perfect for each other that theyre getting impatient


ttttyttt678

Fans getting impatient is weird Stan behaviour, all that matters is how those 2 feel.


Appropriate-Desk4268

I’ve never gotten that “trying to be perfect” vibe from them, considering they don’t share enough of their lives outside the podcast (including two other cohosts who also have stories). They just share silly dance videos, pictures from events like everyone else. They lift each other up, yeah Heath might give an eye-roll or two, but he’s done that to everyone. They don’t share enough for people to make these assumptions, Mariah has expressed her own anxiety. The podcast of 4 people isn’t going to express the relationship of two individuals unless everyone around makes it known.


Itsmeeeeyesitis

I think it’s a little overly cynical to say that a couple seeming happy online MEANS they’re actually unhappy. But I do think it’s not reliable evidence that they are happy. If that makes sense.


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Strange_Event_8521

This is a new insight thank you for sharing


Interesting_Win4494

Idk, I think they’re going to get married


Anacbanana

5 years really isn’t that long. Only compared to these celebrities who get married in a couple of months- year and divorced a year later. I would say 7-9 years would be the breaking point for me if there was no marriage in the works as a female.


Boggysix89

That’s too long. I would never give a man almost 10 years of my life if I wanted to get married.


regallll

Go ask those men. You definitely know many of them.


Strange_Event_8521

Ur mean :/


AttentionNearby2729

People always do quick proposals and then later on go on a vacation just so they can get good photos. I bet Heath is trying to plan everything the best he can where he knows they will both be happy with the final result. They also just brought Mariahs parents on the podcast which makes me feel like hes trying to get them more comfortable with being on camera and having an audience😏. Im sure it will happen soon but also with everyone getting married he might want to wait.


Strange_Event_8521

I like this answer thank you


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Strange_Event_8521

Wait what I don’t know thos


BeamoBeamer77

Her family (and heath) were heavily supportive of the other side during the George Floyd protests, subtley mentioned being trump supporters


Strange_Event_8521

O M G


BeamoBeamer77

The people defending them here are just as bad as those speculating


Boggysix89

Huh?


Fine_Valuable819

Could totally see their relationship being an Austin butler/Vanessa hudgens/Kaia gerber situation


gnxo

another example of guys marrying anyone when they’re finally ready


user200400

I definitely do agree a little. However, I feel like it’s become a lot more normalized to be dating for a long, long time before getting married. Especially in LA, it seems that celebrities and influencers just move at a different pace than other places. I also have to remind myself that we only see such a small part of their lives together, I’m sure they’ve had several conversations about what they want, when the want it to happen, etc., and we don’t truly know what goes on off camera. I know Mariah makes jokes here and there, but if it were really a serious problem in the relationship, I can’t imagine they’d be keeping it in the podcast episode for the public to see.