Haris Sohail needs to come in at 4 tbh and I have no fucking clue why Ifti was dropped, he is an IDEAL no. 5 batsman (for Agha) and can bowl part time like Agha too. Rizwan, Shadab, Nawaz at 6, 7, 8, and 3 pacers.
You have batting depth, you have solid batsman till 6 with Nawaz, Shadab and Wasim even being utilized as pinch hitters (until Shaheen replaces Wasim).
Agha looks a great batsman but Ifti has proven himself and comes above the pecking order for me.
I didn't see the whole match to be very honest, but looking at the scorecard and the graphs, I guess the nature of this pitch changed after, say 30 overs. NZ had a horrendous collapse and then Pakistan struggling to chase it says something about the conditions..
I love how nobody is even talking about horsie( no.3 batsman in ODI ) performance.One or two players can have a bad day in a team.But today the entire batting lining up was shambolic.Everyone is responsible.Everyone was pathetic.No one tried.Babar played bad today but don't you dare say he was selfish.This wasn't him being selfish this was him not trying hard enough just like the rest of 6 bats man.Stop laying all the blame on Babar.
How is this pitch not a road but Test one was?
I know the answer is, the pitch needs to sustain 5 days but this and 1st odi was a more balanced game betn bat and ball than all the Pak tests recently
This pitch was actually poor. I saw some odd bounce which can be dangerous for batsmen. I'm all for balance between bat and ball, but never uneven bounce that can make things dangerous.
Don't think it'll get a poor rating, but the next pitch better have a predictable bounce.
I've always said judging a captain is a fantastic case study in intelligence.
Blaming a captain in any team sport when everyone else is embarrassingly bad really says alot about a person and his cognitive skills.
Blaming Babar is like like blaming the sole breadwinner in a family of 7 (where the other 6 are playing video games all day) for not earning enough money
Babar should bat more like Afridi. Fuck responsibility. Fuck trying to take the game deep.
He should have just hit 10 sixes and also held the bat for the other batsmen around him. If he can’t do that he should just get out early every game as that’s clearly best for the team.
Different situation altogether. No one could play well after NZ’s 30th over. The pitch was not conducive to stroke play at all. Salman tried to be proactive but he was lucky at times and it’s not clear how long he could have gone on for.
This became a 220 pitch later on in NZ innings and they took advantage of the surface early on which made all the difference.
I would not blame the batting at all but I will blame the 2 brain dead run outs that killed it completely.
Babar has an average of 65 against spin even tho he has literally no skills against spin. Is completely clueless. Shows how much stat padding he has done
For a man averaging 60+ that means he usually comes in after the first wicket falls and is often there till the 7th or 8th wicket, of course he is going to be part of most run outs whether his fault or not.
Yes Babar was a bit slow, but the real blame for this loss lies with Haris Sohail and Rizwan. The plan was always going to be for Babar to take it deep and the other middle order batsmen to bat around him. Haris Sohail and Rizwan needed to show more intent like Salman did when he came in.
Lmao, can Babar start playing like a number 1 batter please.
Hearing this so much recently, such a fraud is Babar Azam.
He's the set fucking batsman, he should be making other batters life easier and not letting the pressure get to them.
Such a fucking fraud, he's got all of you fooled.
It's Misbah all over again.
People who are mocking me and calling me babar hater, will hate on babar much more when he plays similar innings and loses you the WC just like the last 2 WCs.
If you were hating on his captaincy that would still be a bit more understandable. He isn’t the most confident captain but shitting on his batting where everyone else deserves equal if not more criticism is just stupid
People who are blaming Babar obviously don't understand cricket. I am only infuriated because of how he got out. These are not his shots. The batting line up is shit and doesn't even know anything regarding intent and positive cricket.
Fair point, but looking at his batting closely since a couple of years I think he could improve against spin. The pitch was tacky, one can understand batting slow but I feel he and Rizwan played out too many dots. NZ bowled well but I don't think they should've been allowed to bowl with that much control. Agree that Babar's dismissal was strange, I'd much rather have him attacking and lose his wicket rather than this.
It’s Misbah all over again. He plays the only half-decent innings for his team in challenging batting conditions and everyone’s mad at him because he didn’t do it at 100+ SR.
He just needs someone at the other end to make 10(3) and everyone to fawn over that person instead (OMG BOOM BOOM ❤️👑💪) for the full Misbah experience
Sir, if you think Babar the batsman is what is wrong with the team, then I can't argue with you, especially in ODI's lol. The real problem is Babar Azam the captain. That is a valid criticism and the more people engage in it, the quicker he'll leave. We need Shadab ASAP as the captain.
I never mentioned anything historically , the comment was only reflecting about the team's performance in today's game .
Don't deflect the comment . Babar could have batted with a healthy SR and putting less pressure on his other teammates but he didn't . Even after facing 100 balls , he is still looking for singles and struggling against the spin .
>Babar could have batted with a healthy SR and putting less pressure on his other teammates but he didn't
Based on what? Who else played at a healthy SR? In an ideal world, Babar hits a 6 every ball and has a 600 strike rate, but looking at the pitch and the scorecard, how does he maintain a healthy strike rate?
Babar isn't the only one to be blamed. Absolutely.
But he needs to be held accountable for his super defensive style of play. Reminds me of how KL Rahul plays in IPL just to secure orange cap, with a SR of 100. His runs are good for nothing, if Pak keeps losing.
Also, his captaincy is sub-par, atleast in ODIs. Not even sure why Rizwan comes two down.
And of course, those who don't agree with your opinion , don't understand cricket.
I only watch cricket now a days for our pace attack but obviously that doesn't work on shit pitches like this. So that leaves me with Babar and I follow PCT because of him. That's how important he is to the team.
However it goes without saying that he is a below average captain and a leader. The man lacks any vision for the team. All he says is " we'll play according to the situation".
I really think Shadab should become the captain. Because he is well spoken, would tell us where actually he wants to take the team and what he has envisioned for the team on a long term basis. He is a very realistic guy and would be very honest with the players and he has been our best all-rounder.
Babar is a fantastic batsman but I feel sad for him that he is addicted to his captaincy and can't give it up.
Oh absolutely, he's a great batsman. But being a captain, I'd be more interested in how well he plays under the pressure and carries the team together.
I don't know if you noticed, but consecutively, in three overs, he gave strike to tailenders on the first ball of the over. Even if Pakistan's tailenders can strike well, a well set captain should just try to settle things himself.
I don't even remember when he played a clutch, needed innings. Maybe, with another captain, he will feel at ease with the other stuff and play with much better intent.
Pakistan has a strong batting line-up, a little change in captaincy will go a far longer way than bringing in new guys every month. Shadab is a great option, if he can maintain his fitness.
His last clutch innings came against the Kiwis in the world cup 2019. And then a couple in South Africa in Odis. But that's about all I remember. He isn't really that great if you look at his career critically. Obviously we Pakistanis glorify him too much because he is all we have really got and he has produced some good innings on occasion but other than that he has got the stats but don't have the really good innings like for e.g Virat's, Warners, Williamson's, Ab's , Smith's and that is why I don't think he is on their level.
WC was under Sarfaraz no?
Anyways, he is still young, he can improve and do great. Fans need to stop overhyping him so much. I still think he is pretty poor at captaincy.
He isn't responsible at all. He just needs to give up the captaincy and let someone more attacking, positive, equipped with a direction for the team to take over. For the last 4 years, I have heard nothing but "we'll play according to the situation" from Babars mouth. The man lacks vision, planning and critical thinking skills required for a captain at this level.
>let someone more attacking, positive, equipped with a direction for the team to take over.
Who's that? The only option I can think of is Shaddy and he's injured every few weeks somehow.
I think the past ODI and this one weren't bad at all captaincy wise. Its just thr mindset which needs to be changed. Doesn't matter thr captain, as soon as we lose wickets our first instinct is to turtle up and waste deliveries. Even fucking Ireland has better aggression after losing wickets. Nevermind teams like AUS/England
That mindset doesn't come automatically in a night. For that you need an aggressive captain who can bring the best out from his team like Koach did with the Indian test team.
I mean, yeah that loss against Zimbabwe was horrendous performance no doubt but we went on to have convincing wins against Bangladesh, south africa and then New Zealand. Not sure how that's "luck" lmao
???
Why does Pakistan losing to Zimbabwe mean Pakistan suck, but SA losing to Netherlands mean SA got unlucky?
If Pakistan were bad in one game, SA were bad in 2 (vs India and Netherlands).
Pakistan looked a solid team every game except Zimbabwe, which we also only lost on the last ball. Even vs England, our plan fell apart only because Shaheen got injured, otherwise I think we could have won that game too.
Y'all gotta chill with the whole Pakistan and luck thing every tournament they do well 👀
Excuse me. Sa was unlucky because their game against Zimbabwe was washed out when they were gonna absolutely smash them and needed like 20 runs to win. The loss against Netherlands was not unlucky. But sa would've had 3 wins the same as Pakistan and would've had a better run rate and qualified if rain didn't interrupt the match against Zimbabwe. It is as clear as it gets what more do you need to understand
SA would not have had a better RR. Pakistan's only losses were on the last ball, so they didn't affect Pakistan much. SA however, lost more comprehensively.
We won't know how close the RR was, but if SA was better than Pakistan, they wouldn't have lost to Pakistan, lmao
What the fuck are you saying you know cricket doesn't work like that. Transitive property makes no sense. That's not how cricket works. Pakistan lost to India but made the final. England barely beat Pakistan while they thrashed India. In the group stage, India beat Pakistan while Pakistan beat SA and SA beat India. Also sa's losses may have been by a bigger margin but their wins would've been even more massive which is something you are failing to see.
Lol, we all know how Netherlands saved our ass otherwise we played absolutely shit cricket in the group stages. We're down and out. England showed us where we stand in the final.
How is it luck that SA lost to Netherlands? Maybe SA just suck even more than Pakistan, and as such Pakistan deserve the spot.
Out of the 3 total losses, Pakistan lost 2 on the last ball, and then vs England, Pakistan lost Shaheen mid game. Pakistan looked absolutely in the game until Shaheen got injured.
Just rewriting history to shit on Babar, lmao
So all the blame will be put on Babar's shoulders. Yes he could have played quickly. However others did not do jack shit either. There is only so much one person can do.
Yeah man, pure desperation from Rizwan to get out on a forward defence and Haris to get trapped in front on an innocuous sweep shot. Can't believe Babar put so much pressure on them
I mean Rizwan couldn't play either. Openers got out cheaply. Harris Sohail struggled. Even Agha got lucky with some help from Sodhi. That was a terrible pitch to show intent.
Real question. Why do people think NZ collapsed after the first 30 overs? And gave up a fifer to Nawaz?
Or are we gonna just keep talking about lack of intent lol.
Fr. I'm not even defending our crap batting display today but our people pretend as if just showing "intent" will be enough to chase targets regardless of ANYTHING else lmao.
People saying the team buckled around Babar as if Shanaka didn’t have the same issue yesterday. Difference is after 15-20 balls Shanaka actually looked to score runs. Heck even look at Santner’s 37 today. Took his time with Ish and then went hard. Babar could have done so much more today; and Rizwan should take some blame as well, their partnership meant that every player had to get in straight away which was clearly difficult.
Babar's defensive style of play has very well contributed to Pakistan's loss this match. He plays so defensively, doesn't even rotate strike enough. This, builds pressure on the non-striker end.
Sometimes I wonder they really want...
If babar plays carefully when wickets are falling
Why don't he play aggressively ..intent ™
When he gets out
Babar thrown it away .. should have waited till the end..
Oh look what happened to the batsmen with intent on this slow rank turner. If you actually watched the game without having a rage boner you'd notice how the game was different starting from NZ's 30th over. They had a collapse and gave Nawaz 5 wickets.
Because the pitch got incredibly hard to bat on. You sound like a new-age t20 fan but I know you're just a typical whiny miserable fan.
Babar definitely played with a poor extremely defensive approach but other batsmen did literally jackshit. I think they deserve way more criticism than Babar. Overall terrible batting performance though
I don't understand what you want him to do in the scenario? Yeah he wasn't at his best AT ALL but you're saying that like he's holding the team or some elite batsman back when this is pretty much our strongest batting lineup. And that very batting lineup crumbled around him? His innings could have been way better but in no way is he at fault for us losing.
Or, yknow, everyone getting out after making less than 20 runs?... I swear if Babar jsut scored 30 and got out, people would be happier with letting the entire team out for a 100.
This is the "fighting innings" from Babar that we peasants don't understand. The twitter timeline after this match will convince you all that it is the best innings in a losing cause in cricket history.
Reiterating this , I don't mind the downvotes.
I don't understand what you want him to do in the scenario? Yeah he wasn't at his best but you're saying that like he's holding someone else back when this is pretty much our strongest batting lineup. And as you saw today, everyone else shat the bed
This comment was more in line of the aggressive PR of Babar nowadays and the overprotective nature of it rather than the quality of the innings hence the twitter thing.
As for the innings, yeah Babar couldn't do much post the Agha run-out but prior to that he was playing dogshit, barely even rotating the strike . He went from 25 of 35 to 47 of 85 between 14th over and 34th over and moreover didn't even look like taking singles against the ordinary ball. These days happen to every line-up and every batters but the nature of the innings also should be positive despite the conditions. Babar was clearly never in the zone in the 113 odd deliveries he played . But Babar is definitely the best in the team still.
Again, my comment was for the aggressive Babar defence force who'd never admit that their hero has any flaws despite being in his worst day in a while, not solely pinning him for the loss. We know that Babar will definitely bounce back the next innings.
Haris Sohail needs to come in at 4 tbh and I have no fucking clue why Ifti was dropped, he is an IDEAL no. 5 batsman (for Agha) and can bowl part time like Agha too. Rizwan, Shadab, Nawaz at 6, 7, 8, and 3 pacers. You have batting depth, you have solid batsman till 6 with Nawaz, Shadab and Wasim even being utilized as pinch hitters (until Shaheen replaces Wasim). Agha looks a great batsman but Ifti has proven himself and comes above the pecking order for me.
I didn't see the whole match to be very honest, but looking at the scorecard and the graphs, I guess the nature of this pitch changed after, say 30 overs. NZ had a horrendous collapse and then Pakistan struggling to chase it says something about the conditions..
My reaction to this match: 
I love how nobody is even talking about horsie( no.3 batsman in ODI ) performance.One or two players can have a bad day in a team.But today the entire batting lining up was shambolic.Everyone is responsible.Everyone was pathetic.No one tried.Babar played bad today but don't you dare say he was selfish.This wasn't him being selfish this was him not trying hard enough just like the rest of 6 bats man.Stop laying all the blame on Babar.
How is this pitch not a road but Test one was? I know the answer is, the pitch needs to sustain 5 days but this and 1st odi was a more balanced game betn bat and ball than all the Pak tests recently
This pitch was actually poor. I saw some odd bounce which can be dangerous for batsmen. I'm all for balance between bat and ball, but never uneven bounce that can make things dangerous. Don't think it'll get a poor rating, but the next pitch better have a predictable bounce.
Time to call Sarfaraz
Guys, the game is over. Let's get back to Horse memes please. Let's talk about Imams intent yeah?
I've always said judging a captain is a fantastic case study in intelligence. Blaming a captain in any team sport when everyone else is embarrassingly bad really says alot about a person and his cognitive skills.
Did you just call most of our fans dumb? How dare you? /s
Blaming Babar is like like blaming the sole breadwinner in a family of 7 (where the other 6 are playing video games all day) for not earning enough money
I am prerty sure Harsha gave the same analogy for Misbah during his tenure as captain.
Babar should bat more like Afridi. Fuck responsibility. Fuck trying to take the game deep. He should have just hit 10 sixes and also held the bat for the other batsmen around him. If he can’t do that he should just get out early every game as that’s clearly best for the team.
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Look how sarfaraz played in 2nd test. That shows you how to play with real intent.
Different situation altogether. No one could play well after NZ’s 30th over. The pitch was not conducive to stroke play at all. Salman tried to be proactive but he was lucky at times and it’s not clear how long he could have gone on for. This became a 220 pitch later on in NZ innings and they took advantage of the surface early on which made all the difference. I would not blame the batting at all but I will blame the 2 brain dead run outs that killed it completely.
Babar has an average of 65 against spin even tho he has literally no skills against spin. Is completely clueless. Shows how much stat padding he has done
Do you understand the law of averages?
Babar and Rizwan's partnership killed this game. They just allowed NZ to tighten their grip. Atleast one of them should have been more proactive.
Babar has been involved in all 4 last run outs for Pakistan , two of which happened today.
For a man averaging 60+ that means he usually comes in after the first wicket falls and is often there till the 7th or 8th wicket, of course he is going to be part of most run outs whether his fault or not.
Yes Babar was a bit slow, but the real blame for this loss lies with Haris Sohail and Rizwan. The plan was always going to be for Babar to take it deep and the other middle order batsmen to bat around him. Haris Sohail and Rizwan needed to show more intent like Salman did when he came in.
Lmao, can Babar start playing like a number 1 batter please. Hearing this so much recently, such a fraud is Babar Azam. He's the set fucking batsman, he should be making other batters life easier and not letting the pressure get to them. Such a fucking fraud, he's got all of you fooled. It's Misbah all over again.
They just didn't expect the pitch to be this difficult to bat on. And neither did NZ based on that late innings collapse.
People who are mocking me and calling me babar hater, will hate on babar much more when he plays similar innings and loses you the WC just like the last 2 WCs.
And why were we in those finals? Hmmmm
Luck, and bowlers.
If you were hating on his captaincy that would still be a bit more understandable. He isn’t the most confident captain but shitting on his batting where everyone else deserves equal if not more criticism is just stupid
He's only played 1 world cup 😭
Im talking about the last 2 t20
You can’t compare his batting in T20 to ODI. He’s one of the greatest ODI batsman in the game right now.
GREATEST????? wtf are u on man. Greatest statpadder. The greatest batsman would have won u this game single handedly
Im not from Pakistan. Greatest batsman alone can’t win you every game. Come on bro, are you like 10?
Bro. Don't bother engaging this dude. He's got the mental facilities of a pre teen since he can't stop talking about intent.
People who are blaming Babar obviously don't understand cricket. I am only infuriated because of how he got out. These are not his shots. The batting line up is shit and doesn't even know anything regarding intent and positive cricket.
Fair point, but looking at his batting closely since a couple of years I think he could improve against spin. The pitch was tacky, one can understand batting slow but I feel he and Rizwan played out too many dots. NZ bowled well but I don't think they should've been allowed to bowl with that much control. Agree that Babar's dismissal was strange, I'd much rather have him attacking and lose his wicket rather than this.
It’s Misbah all over again. He plays the only half-decent innings for his team in challenging batting conditions and everyone’s mad at him because he didn’t do it at 100+ SR. He just needs someone at the other end to make 10(3) and everyone to fawn over that person instead (OMG BOOM BOOM ❤️👑💪) for the full Misbah experience
Babar is definitely responsible for this loss but not the only culprit . Nothing justifies his worst paced innings.
Why is he "definitely responsible"?
Sir, if you think Babar the batsman is what is wrong with the team, then I can't argue with you, especially in ODI's lol. The real problem is Babar Azam the captain. That is a valid criticism and the more people engage in it, the quicker he'll leave. We need Shadab ASAP as the captain.
I never mentioned anything historically , the comment was only reflecting about the team's performance in today's game . Don't deflect the comment . Babar could have batted with a healthy SR and putting less pressure on his other teammates but he didn't . Even after facing 100 balls , he is still looking for singles and struggling against the spin .
>Babar could have batted with a healthy SR and putting less pressure on his other teammates but he didn't Based on what? Who else played at a healthy SR? In an ideal world, Babar hits a 6 every ball and has a 600 strike rate, but looking at the pitch and the scorecard, how does he maintain a healthy strike rate?
Agreed. He isn't absolved. I have always had a problem with his s.r but tbh that's all he got really.
Babar isn't the only one to be blamed. Absolutely. But he needs to be held accountable for his super defensive style of play. Reminds me of how KL Rahul plays in IPL just to secure orange cap, with a SR of 100. His runs are good for nothing, if Pak keeps losing. Also, his captaincy is sub-par, atleast in ODIs. Not even sure why Rizwan comes two down. And of course, those who don't agree with your opinion , don't understand cricket.
I only watch cricket now a days for our pace attack but obviously that doesn't work on shit pitches like this. So that leaves me with Babar and I follow PCT because of him. That's how important he is to the team. However it goes without saying that he is a below average captain and a leader. The man lacks any vision for the team. All he says is " we'll play according to the situation". I really think Shadab should become the captain. Because he is well spoken, would tell us where actually he wants to take the team and what he has envisioned for the team on a long term basis. He is a very realistic guy and would be very honest with the players and he has been our best all-rounder. Babar is a fantastic batsman but I feel sad for him that he is addicted to his captaincy and can't give it up.
Oh absolutely, he's a great batsman. But being a captain, I'd be more interested in how well he plays under the pressure and carries the team together. I don't know if you noticed, but consecutively, in three overs, he gave strike to tailenders on the first ball of the over. Even if Pakistan's tailenders can strike well, a well set captain should just try to settle things himself. I don't even remember when he played a clutch, needed innings. Maybe, with another captain, he will feel at ease with the other stuff and play with much better intent. Pakistan has a strong batting line-up, a little change in captaincy will go a far longer way than bringing in new guys every month. Shadab is a great option, if he can maintain his fitness.
His last clutch innings came against the Kiwis in the world cup 2019. And then a couple in South Africa in Odis. But that's about all I remember. He isn't really that great if you look at his career critically. Obviously we Pakistanis glorify him too much because he is all we have really got and he has produced some good innings on occasion but other than that he has got the stats but don't have the really good innings like for e.g Virat's, Warners, Williamson's, Ab's , Smith's and that is why I don't think he is on their level.
WC was under Sarfaraz no? Anyways, he is still young, he can improve and do great. Fans need to stop overhyping him so much. I still think he is pretty poor at captaincy.
Yes, it was under Sarfaraz, the yawning machine. Very poor. Take the captaincy from him and he maybe able to match those guys I mentioned.
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Guys..I don't think we're winning the wc anymore....
You don't have a team. You don't have a leader who has a vision for this team.
Even though I think babar shouldn't be captain how is he responsible for the shambolic innings of the other 6 batsmen?
He isn't responsible at all. He just needs to give up the captaincy and let someone more attacking, positive, equipped with a direction for the team to take over. For the last 4 years, I have heard nothing but "we'll play according to the situation" from Babars mouth. The man lacks vision, planning and critical thinking skills required for a captain at this level.
>let someone more attacking, positive, equipped with a direction for the team to take over. Who's that? The only option I can think of is Shaddy and he's injured every few weeks somehow.
I think the past ODI and this one weren't bad at all captaincy wise. Its just thr mindset which needs to be changed. Doesn't matter thr captain, as soon as we lose wickets our first instinct is to turtle up and waste deliveries. Even fucking Ireland has better aggression after losing wickets. Nevermind teams like AUS/England
That mindset doesn't come automatically in a night. For that you need an aggressive captain who can bring the best out from his team like Koach did with the Indian test team.
Same with Ben Stokes England. Almost this exact test team refused to chase 270 against NZ with 70 overs to go. So I agree with you
Exactly.
We've literally made it to a World Cup final like 2 months ago...
You forgot how did we make it to the final? That was just pure Fluke and our luck Not our competitiveness or something
I mean, yeah that loss against Zimbabwe was horrendous performance no doubt but we went on to have convincing wins against Bangladesh, south africa and then New Zealand. Not sure how that's "luck" lmao
Sa losing to Netherlands and having their game against Zimbabwe washed out when they were on for a comprehensive 10 wicket win
Still played finals idk why you're so mad + still played asia cup final but I'm pretty sure you're gonna label it "lucky" too
??? Why does Pakistan losing to Zimbabwe mean Pakistan suck, but SA losing to Netherlands mean SA got unlucky? If Pakistan were bad in one game, SA were bad in 2 (vs India and Netherlands). Pakistan looked a solid team every game except Zimbabwe, which we also only lost on the last ball. Even vs England, our plan fell apart only because Shaheen got injured, otherwise I think we could have won that game too. Y'all gotta chill with the whole Pakistan and luck thing every tournament they do well 👀
Excuse me. Sa was unlucky because their game against Zimbabwe was washed out when they were gonna absolutely smash them and needed like 20 runs to win. The loss against Netherlands was not unlucky. But sa would've had 3 wins the same as Pakistan and would've had a better run rate and qualified if rain didn't interrupt the match against Zimbabwe. It is as clear as it gets what more do you need to understand
SA would not have had a better RR. Pakistan's only losses were on the last ball, so they didn't affect Pakistan much. SA however, lost more comprehensively. We won't know how close the RR was, but if SA was better than Pakistan, they wouldn't have lost to Pakistan, lmao
What the fuck are you saying you know cricket doesn't work like that. Transitive property makes no sense. That's not how cricket works. Pakistan lost to India but made the final. England barely beat Pakistan while they thrashed India. In the group stage, India beat Pakistan while Pakistan beat SA and SA beat India. Also sa's losses may have been by a bigger margin but their wins would've been even more massive which is something you are failing to see.
Lol, we all know how Netherlands saved our ass otherwise we played absolutely shit cricket in the group stages. We're down and out. England showed us where we stand in the final.
How is it luck that SA lost to Netherlands? Maybe SA just suck even more than Pakistan, and as such Pakistan deserve the spot. Out of the 3 total losses, Pakistan lost 2 on the last ball, and then vs England, Pakistan lost Shaheen mid game. Pakistan looked absolutely in the game until Shaheen got injured. Just rewriting history to shit on Babar, lmao
So all the blame will be put on Babar's shoulders. Yes he could have played quickly. However others did not do jack shit either. There is only so much one person can do.
Agreed
Looking at the shots played by the Pakistani batsman,they were showing desperation which was due to the scoreboard pressure created by babar
Can you tell me how to switch off your brains? You seem to be an expert in that.
Sure, he put the pressure on Openers, Rizwan
Yeah man, pure desperation from Rizwan to get out on a forward defence and Haris to get trapped in front on an innocuous sweep shot. Can't believe Babar put so much pressure on them
I mean Rizwan couldn't play either. Openers got out cheaply. Harris Sohail struggled. Even Agha got lucky with some help from Sodhi. That was a terrible pitch to show intent.
Real question. Why do people think NZ collapsed after the first 30 overs? And gave up a fifer to Nawaz? Or are we gonna just keep talking about lack of intent lol.
4fer but yes.
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Fr. I'm not even defending our crap batting display today but our people pretend as if just showing "intent" will be enough to chase targets regardless of ANYTHING else lmao.
You can be critical of that performance absolutely without sounding like a dumbass lol. But jahil qaum is gonna jahil ya know.
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My man, are you comparing LOI to test? Pls don't.
Babar needs to drop haris for Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz plays spin better than these idiots
He doesn't get to do that... Talk to afridi.
Hey Pak, next time don't come into your innings trying to play for a draw, ok?
Imam can never play that short ball can he
People saying the team buckled around Babar as if Shanaka didn’t have the same issue yesterday. Difference is after 15-20 balls Shanaka actually looked to score runs. Heck even look at Santner’s 37 today. Took his time with Ish and then went hard. Babar could have done so much more today; and Rizwan should take some blame as well, their partnership meant that every player had to get in straight away which was clearly difficult.
That was a different surface, just look how much India scored on that pitch
Babar's defensive style of play has very well contributed to Pakistan's loss this match. He plays so defensively, doesn't even rotate strike enough. This, builds pressure on the non-striker end.
Exactly!!! This is why i blame babar. The loss is all on him. Who plays this defensively.
Imo rizwan should bat lower he soaks up too many dots in middle overs. Maybe forcing him to score quicker might be the way in ODIs
This is a take I agree with. Either send him out to open so he can abuse the powerplay or send him at 5 because Haris is a way better number 4
Mate Shanaka was playing on a pitch that had almost 700 runs scored on it, there's a *slight* difference there
That’s why I also mentioned Santner who played on the same pitch but I get your point
I mean, why wouldn't you realize that before even making your comment lmao 👀
Not even mad losing tbh. The decider to be played on friday the 13th. Noice.
Ahh the template!! Win first game and than got defeated in rest of the matches of that series!!
Sometimes I wonder they really want... If babar plays carefully when wickets are falling Why don't he play aggressively ..intent ™ When he gets out Babar thrown it away .. should have waited till the end..
This maroa guy is obnoxious
The idiot would rather prefer Babar get out early as long as he had an aggressive approach. Would’ve been all out at 140ish instead
i fkn swear dude... it seems he cant stand a loss or just hates it babar if he doesnt win the game
fr
he"s literally just a babar hater
And a Babar fan too
A tough match, no one had answers to the kiwi's incredible spin bowling
They didn't have an answer to our bowling after the 30th over either. Pitch got too slow too quick.
This is the umpteenth time I've seen babar lose a game single handedly.
This comment is the reason we don't deserve good things.
On the contrary, you need a batsman who has intent.
Oh look what happened to the batsmen with intent on this slow rank turner. If you actually watched the game without having a rage boner you'd notice how the game was different starting from NZ's 30th over. They had a collapse and gave Nawaz 5 wickets. Because the pitch got incredibly hard to bat on. You sound like a new-age t20 fan but I know you're just a typical whiny miserable fan.
Hmm lemme guess your fav Pakistan batsman is probably Asif Ali
Good game by Kiwis. Poor batting by most of Pakistan overall though pitch was difficult.
Babar definitely played with a poor extremely defensive approach but other batsmen did literally jackshit. I think they deserve way more criticism than Babar. Overall terrible batting performance though
what how did pak lose this!
Pak being pak.
Yuck Babar. I've never seen someone play so selfishly. MF just protected his average and ranking.
Because him attempting to smash boundaries while everyone else is getting out sounds like a great idea. A 40(20) innings wasn’t gonna help
I don't understand what you want him to do in the scenario? Yeah he wasn't at his best AT ALL but you're saying that like he's holding the team or some elite batsman back when this is pretty much our strongest batting lineup. And that very batting lineup crumbled around him? His innings could have been way better but in no way is he at fault for us losing.
Terrible take. Clearly didn’t watch the game.
Haris should have let Naseem have the strike.
Lol Sodhi bowling trash and somehow ending up with the best figures classic
babar doesn't win game by self fans: it's babar's fault!
Another home defeat under his esteemed captaincy
Babar lost this game from the start by letting the rr shoot up.
I mean, he didn't have any support from the other end. There's only so much one guy can do alone.
Or, yknow, everyone getting out after making less than 20 runs?... I swear if Babar jsut scored 30 and got out, people would be happier with letting the entire team out for a 100.
T20 mode. PAK: 72-10 (13.0)
"WHEN YOU PLAY FOR STATS" here it again.........
Inshallah 3rd ODI pak will win
Only chance is if they bat first. If they chase, they'll play this nonsense pussy cricket again and have an insurmountable rrr in no time.
Our women’s football team won btw 1-0
Thanks for this rare W 🥲
Less goo
Congrats!!
Rauf like f this i got a wife waiting at home
Congrats NZ. 👏
Gotta love this scheduling cos we now get another ODI tomorrow :D
Day after as well.
What a horrendous batting performance lmao
Amazing stumping from Latham. 60 average maintained. Both sides happy. No.1 ranking protected too lol
You're not Nasim Rauf, trust me you're not that Naseem.
Afridi we expect a tweet from you today as well, okay?
This feels like a game from 2013, with misbah playing that Babar innings, and the crowd leaving early
Can we get Ramiz raja to do commentary again? I cant with Bazid anymore...
**42.6** **jumps out of the crease, and finds long-off!** Haris Rauf c Bracewell b Sodhi 0 (3b 0x4 0x6 ) SR: 0
Good game kiwis, but we still dominated you. 👊🏼
My man Living in a dream.
Babar will say so in the coming press conference. Said it for Aus loss, then Eng loss, then NZ test loss, now this.
GGs Kiwis. See you at the decider
PATHETIC BATSMAN
Babar in the post match press conference: Strike-rate is definitely overrated 👉😑👈
Sodhi ending with more wickets than Santner
Shittttttt team.
Gg kiwi bros see you friday
Pakistan getting dismissed for 182 was definitely not on my bingo card today , especially after the 1st innings comeback.
Cant wait for wasay iffi live stream
fuck those guys
[hdy](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIjppnQ9NYUvI7i6TVXjkgvcx3gMUs-nGeTr6wqHV7iddJ_CpPxxDuEjjj&s=10)
Nah legit fuck them. Just wanna let it out don't care for the downvotes
They will fuck ghante ka king
😂
How is that out???
Because foot was in the air?
By the way of stumping
i might be the 100th person to say this but they are doing sodhi wrong with tht photo
Which photo
the one on the side of his bowling figures
> Rauf walks in, while the crowd heads out Nice one cricinfo
New Zealand has won.
They had this won from the 10th over...
New Zealand has won.
Fuck it Naseem and Rauf gonna be 100X more interesting than whatever babar was trying
uhmmm...
lol
I stand by my point
This is the "fighting innings" from Babar that we peasants don't understand. The twitter timeline after this match will convince you all that it is the best innings in a losing cause in cricket history. Reiterating this , I don't mind the downvotes.
I don't understand what you want him to do in the scenario? Yeah he wasn't at his best but you're saying that like he's holding someone else back when this is pretty much our strongest batting lineup. And as you saw today, everyone else shat the bed
This comment was more in line of the aggressive PR of Babar nowadays and the overprotective nature of it rather than the quality of the innings hence the twitter thing. As for the innings, yeah Babar couldn't do much post the Agha run-out but prior to that he was playing dogshit, barely even rotating the strike . He went from 25 of 35 to 47 of 85 between 14th over and 34th over and moreover didn't even look like taking singles against the ordinary ball. These days happen to every line-up and every batters but the nature of the innings also should be positive despite the conditions. Babar was clearly never in the zone in the 113 odd deliveries he played . But Babar is definitely the best in the team still. Again, my comment was for the aggressive Babar defence force who'd never admit that their hero has any flaws despite being in his worst day in a while, not solely pinning him for the loss. We know that Babar will definitely bounce back the next innings.
Rauf's expression lol😂😂
Ahahahahahaha did anyone see that from Rauf
The reaction was absolutely priceless
Why would Babar play. Reverse sweep on this pitch that too at the 43th over
You would know since you are f\*\*\*ing top-ranked player in the world!!!
The crowd seems majority Pakistani fans
No way 21 nz tourists in the crowd