By - matt31384
Nice try sweet. Do your own scouting.
It's actually HAL trying to find out so he announces on his stream
So Monsoon to TSM?
On a related note, I’d love to watch a tournament where every team has to drop solo like that and try to meet up and win in the end. It’d be chaos.
Apples and Bananas goes hard with a good singer, exactly the vibes TSM need to dominate again
muzzled hal is perfect for sweet
The age of gibby is ending...we should start counting on that.
rumour on the street is his dome is receiving HP and newcastle wall was a test for that
That would totally make sense but god even I hope that doesn’t happen
yeah, can you imagine the visual clutter as you whiff a pk shot into the bubble wall
I come to r/CompetitiveApex and review one of the 50 threads opened up about our roster change... take that into consideration and then do whatever I was going to do anyway.
I can’t believe you even took it into consideration. 🤣
Playing w gent today, noting that his options are a mnk gibby or top 3 controller player, so much g2 turmoil. My prediction would the current g2 roster disbands, gent to nrg, resultah retires, dezign is a fa. Also I am high currently
I guess if Gild is not playing tourneys with TL and his move to NRG is not set in stone then he's kind of sending a message that for the right team he's willing to leave TL. That or TL gave him this period to figure his stuff out I guess. My gut tells me this move is already arranged and NRG is just impression farming, but we'll see.
Who dropped off the TL roster? I went looking all over the place and couldn't find anything.
Gild hasn't played with TL for 2 tourneys now. Doesn't necessarily mean he dropped off, but it is odd specially cause he has been playing the game with Sweet and Nafen.
Gent is a demon and should be on a top team if G2 disbands
Resultuh to C9 seems like a good fit
A roller Gibby on C9 where I have heard this before?
they ever put naughty on gibby?
i just asked if they ever had naughty on gibby. i know knoqd was their gibby and had success.
Naughty was the “god gibby” for a brief 48 hours before they took him off it 😂
yes and it was terrible
I saw that too. And kinda wish I was high rn. 😂
i heard resultuh is going to solo q in next circuit challenger get to LAN and try to win it solo 🤔 i might be wrong tho
I don't see why they would go after a player just because they play Gibby. There was that tweet a bit ago implying nerfs but who knows. But with the meta being what it is I would be looking at a more versatile player rather than just a Gibby main.
I agree. The only reason I mentioned the Gibby’s (Gibbies? 🥴) was because someone posted a clip of Sweet talking about what they’re looking for and he said it was between that and a controller player.
Either way this off season should be really exciting and hopefully will start changing the shape of comp for the future!
Everyone keeps saying pick up Gild but for me Fun is the one
Man Fun could replace rocker's gibby but just as easily flex to absolutely whatever character in this evolving meta. what a great option he would be.
FunFPS would be my pickup.
Best player on liquid imo
I do think Fun would be an amazing option. Great Gibby and can still frag with the best of ‘em.
I’m just not sure fun would leave TL. Him and noct are good friends, and if TL loses fun they are in a bad place imo, basically irreplaceable.
personally dont see him leaving liquid now but could be one of the players nrg are looking at
the brotherhood between the brandons are unbreakable
Sweet would be dumb to not pick aceu, timmy or faide 😎
For sure, unless Dizzy and Shroud are also options.
Nah Shroud just signed a contract
Yeah, you’re right.
Nah it's the definitely the Return of the King (Richard)
Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while…
What happened to that guy?
Streams on Facebook, and pretty much fell off
i think he plays mmos
You had me thinking I was on the main sub for a minute
Wdym, he's an S-Tier Gibby player with insane Gibby movement.
He stomps pubs that’s all the content I’ve ever seen from him
One of these is not like the other lol
Isn’t shiv any good ? I heard people say he’s on the same tier as the guys mentioned
I love shiv but he's not really close to these players levels. Besides it sounds like he's done with comp. Hand issues and his future commitments have him occupied.
Shiv is the best
Not timmy imo.
Love his streams, but when he subbed in with Wig in a tourny, he kept trying to co-igl and causing issues. Trying to play tourny like normal lobby.
Aceu and faide need to be on a team though for real. They are great to watch too
Gild because liquid has this awful twitch deal where u have to play like 5 minutes of ads in an hour and he's my second favorite player so I would like to watch his stream
look for twitch ad blocker addon
Lmao! For real?
It's so bad like gild has even talked to sweet about it on stream and sweet just laughed and told him how much it sucked. I've honestly just stopped using my prime on sweet and dealt with his ads cause theyres so much less of them lol
Shit, I’d do the same. Lol
My top choices are Fun, Alb, Lou, Gild and Gent. 3 m&k who are good Gibbys but would at the same time offer more versatility to whichever comp NRG wants to run. Gild and Gent would be my top picks for controller, both of whom also can play 4 or 5 different characters (but not Gibby). Naughty as a wild card pick cause he has chemistry with Sweet but can only play Blood or Valk/Wraith. tl;dr: i would look to pick versatile players.
I couldn’t agree more about the importance of versatility at this time.
I don’t think sweet would play with alb, he’s too much of a wildcard. I also doubt they’d pick up lou because he seems like a rocker v2 in terms of playing the game. Gild would be an interesting pick but idk if he would fit in the versatility department.
I think there were like 2 different times that sweet shifted rosters that he and mac talked about him being on the cards, so he definitely would, but I do agree that moment has passed, so i just threw in the option there cause him and fun are the most flex picks nrg could have. I disagree, I think Gild plays all characters except for the super defensive ones, he's one of the smart controller players.
I agree but i feel like they might want to keep gibby in the cards, I can see meta going full circle again and becoming defensive if lobbies turn into whole map int zones.
I think if Seer doesn't get nerfed then playing Gibby (who will probably get nerfed) is kind of a grief, especially because Seer is being accompanied by a higher Wattson pick rate and both of them hard counter Gibby. Wattson/NC would be better picks, the 100t comp is pretty much the safe comp i bet teams will be running.
I think that nc/wattson is ok but it lacks the immediate reset ability that gibby has. I don’t expect gibby to be nerfed any time soon because he has a mid comp pickrate rn and a bad pub pickrate (and i assume his ranked pickrate is somewhere in between). I could also see seer getting nerfed, especially his q activation time or cooldown.
If rumors are to be believed he is getting a nerf, maybe not something dramatic tho, but regardless of a possible nerf, if there are enough Seers (this is the most important because he takes away Gibby's ability to offer a bubble reset) and Wattsons (Makes his ult useless) then teams will pivot to Seer/Wattson and NC/and Fuse too as a flex pick organically, as they already are doing (as seen on ESA and yesterday's tourney).
if they ever pick up a controller player, most likely they will put nafen on anchor probably? i dont see them picking up a controller player and forcing him on gibby unless hes insane on it?
Nocturnal probably biting his nails right now lol
I mean that's the price you pay for being successful lol. He will be fine tho.
Damn no respect for Rambeau after he fragged out at LAN on short notice as a sub
I love Rambeau! One of my favorite players in the game. I think he’s underrated by some people due to the low sensitivity settings he plays with, but the results speak for themselves. Lasers. His game IQ is higher than I think he gets credit for too.
He’s legit cracked and pretty much a vet with the rest of em. I think he just hasn’t really been given any spotlight due to the lack of being tied to any big name orgs for awhile
Lou and dropped are the options I'm looking at considering they're both ex teammates and have proven to be successful.
For controller im looking at gild naughty and gent considering they're the best of the best and I have experience playing with them/they could be bought out 100%
This is almost exactly where my thinking is at.
I’m not convinced g2 could be convinced to sell gent, they seem like the type of org who would demand a 6 figure buyout out of spite.
Definitely get the vibes you’re talking about too, but there is no way G2 doesn’t see that the current team isn’t sustainable. I just don’t think this roster can work much longer with Dezign going fucking apeshit on gent once a tourney it seems. There’s no way those vibes are conducive to that team performing at their best haha. I think the denim demon paired with a top IGL like Sweet would reach another level tbh.
I agree with you but the CEO of g2 doesnt seem like the brightest bulb in the box
wym dezign going apeshit on gent? how have i missed this reoccurring drama!? lol but fr i didnt know there was anything negative like that on that team
Man I've been thinking gild this whole time but naughty is cracked and a fantastic teammate. He just vibes and follows calls, gives his opinion if needed. Could be a sleeper option.
Send Verhulst to NRG and let Hal rage on someone else.
Lol. I do think Verhulst would’ve been a very good fit here, due to his temperament.
I do like TSM. I actually turned off Hal’s steam last night cause of him raging tho, lol. Sometimes the man can’t own up to his own mistakes. But is what it is.
Still think Verhulst would do better elsewhere. He played well with ESA/OG style of play. He feels too locked down with tsm.
I agree. And I know what you mean about Hal. And that’s coming from a Madness fan. 😄
I love Snip3, man. Sometimes, I struggle to choose which teams I want to root for at different times. Snip3 and Sweet together again (I missed it the first time around) would instantly cement NRG as my all-time favorite team. Hopefully he’s learned to listen a little better since teaming with Hal. Lol
Sweet and sniped competed together?
Sweet snip3 and dropped were team rogue. Snip3 joined after husker left to become a cod streamer
Lou was there too but for a short period
Yeah, Snip3 filled in for Rogue with Sweet and Dropped after Huskers retired in April 2020. He played with them until about October 2020, when he joined TSM. He was a demon, but Sweet has talked about how Snip3 would go off and do his own thing and try to 1v3 teams. Lol
Snipe was very early on the controller trend in Apex so he was often successful at those 3v1s.
I remember one of the ALGS tournaments it was between them and CLG for the win and Rogue were above CLG in containment.
Sweet did a VoD review (content from sweet was super rare at the time). He basically said there was no stopping Snipe dropping on CLG and killing them. He just had to make sure he came back up afterwards.
Snipe was a wild card but he did some crazy game winning moves at times.
That’s good shit. I wonder if it’s possible to track down a clip of that. 🤔
I remember Hal spectating Snip3 landing and looting Mirage's ship and being baffled sweet assigned such a bad looter to such a large area.
Snipe is unavailable until after Halo Worlds, I’m almost sure. FaZe just did a roster shuffle around him and really doubled down on keeping him on their new (expensive) team. I really doubt he would leave before at least giving it a good shot.
I think earliest we see Snipe is split 2, and that’s only if Worlds goes poorly and he’s up from a 1 year contract (we don’t know if it’s 1 or 2 years right now, but my guess is 1). I think he absolutely wants to play (and stream) Apex but he seems very committed to making his new Halo team work right now.
Unfortunately the game has also moved on, honestly. Even as a big fan I would say he isn’t a top 10 or even top 20 player like he was when he was picked up by TSM. He might be able to bring it back, though.
God if only but I think snipe has written himself away from apex unfortunately. His rant on stream about how he wouldn’t forgive himself for leaving halo was pretty definite.
You have a clip? I thought a month or so ago he talked about competing in Apex again?
yea and he competed with col in that tourney not too long ago. he definitely has some interest at least in competitive apex. hope he is NRG
I saw his past broadcast list (didn’t watch them, just scrolled) and he’s only been playing halo recently and didn’t see any apex :( anyone know when his contract is over? I love watching snipe play
He said top-3/4 controller.
obly vaifs fun sharky dropped
genburten gild naughty ghanja pandxrz knoqd (idk which one of these i would exclude to make a top 5)
assuming no language barrier choose obly or gild
Thanks! I didn’t realize Obly and Vaifs were Gibby players.
I don’t know if I’d disagree with any of your controller players. How close do you have Gent to top 5?
verhulst and gent would be in the next tier for me
Pls be Gent. Deserves a top-igl. Would be disgusting.
It really would. He’s probably been my favorite of the G2 boys. I mean, other than that whole sleeping in jeans thing. 😂
who doesn't sleep in jeans?? its alpha af
Did I say “other than”? Shit… I obviously meant “especially because”. 😂
Gent is interesting because it feels like nick mercs would pursue him hard if he’s willing to leave G2.
So for gent he’d have to decide between the streaming clout and online presence that nick offers, vs the competitive clout NRG would offer.
Not a bad decision to have to make *if* it came to that.
Have we seen Sweet and Mac play together much. I can’t remember or recall a time watching/listening to them play together. In my head it sounds like it could be a strong dynamic.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen them play together. I’d love to though.
No one has mentioned Reptar for any of these spots yet but he for sure is getting a T1 org offer. He’s been grinding, has a ton of comp experience, and was one of the pioneers of the original aggro metas. Think he’s be a good fit as a smart rolla fragger next to Sweet
Glad he’s back!
Why do they need Gibby…isn’t the meta finally showing you don’t need one?
It sure seems to be trending that way. But this was based on what Sweet said they were looking for.
Look for a ranked grinder that can play Gibby. They need someone fresh that is up to date on the apex experience atm.
That’s fair. Unfortunately, I’m not too familiar with any up-and-coming ranked grinders that play Gibby.
i personally think they might be looking for established players considering nrg is quite a big org in apex, they might not want to take as many risks. plus picking up a ranked grinder really requires time to prepare them for comp and maybe get acustomed to their playstyle. i dont know when the next algs season starts but if theres not much time id see them picking up an established player to plug and play
For gibby players sweet has always had high respect towards FunFPS. If not him then maybe Lou. Mac, Reps and Dropped I don't see happening but they are 3 of the best in the scene I could get.
I think sweet is leaning towards getting a roller player though. I could either go for Slurpee, Gild, Inhumed, Gent or even a wild card hidden talent like OxyAres. Gent would be my top pick from the 5 mentioned.
Thanks for the reply! It sounds like Inhumed is unlikely due to health issues. OxyAres is very underrated IMO.
People keep saying Lou to NRG and while I think that could be probable I think Crust would fit better on the roster. He has insane fragging potential on m&k, experience on gibby during retzi's second comeback, and generally I think he can flex on to more characters than lou could in the current changing legend landscape.
But that’s assuming that Crust exists.
Crust is an elaborate ai created to compete in algs
Soon, every team will have Crust on their roster.
My friend Doug.. he came in 5th at a local tourney and won $20. He's pretty good.
Oh shit! THE Doug!?!?
Sweet, Hal, RPR. Last in all the tourneys but would be a fucking content goldmine. Their comms would be "immaculate"
Is Mande not one of the most underrated players in the world, outside of the EU?
If he was before, I don't think he is now. Mande gets heaps of praise and rightly so.
They should just get Sunset, gg
I know basically nothing about Sunset, other than seeing the name a few times recently. Does he speak English?
Naughty - good with following orders,very active in comms, can take criticism well and make crazy clutches and also literal aimbot
Gild - played loba,caustic and valk with TL ,crazy with volt and car great positioning and can stay alive in hectic situations
F\\A controllers -Keon,Chaotic,Slurp
verhulst,pandxrz,knoqd and Nickmercs is not realistic
Lou- one of the best mnk gibby and SEN doesnt care much about their apex roster easy pickup
Any time I’ve seen Sweet playing ranked with Naughty, it’s been premium content too. Some of the best times I’ve had watching ranked.
I like the reasoning you included for your options as well. Good stuff. Thanks!
ETA: I had to copy and paste my reply here because I’m a MORON and failed to post it as a reply initially. 😎
Looking through this thread, if sweet reads Reddit at all he’ll just pick up Fun, which I would have to agree with
I wouldn’t be upset with that at all either.
When Snipe left TSM, I was hoping they would pick up Fun, one of the best Gibby in the game and most versatile player there is, which would also get Reps off Gibby.
Nah you don't need a Gibby. Just give 'em Keon with his Horizon and W key it FURIA style.
I think people are thinking about this in the wrong way, and orgs too.
Is picking up Gent over Gild or Genburten, for example, going to have THAT much impact? All cracked 'rollers, all going to smackdown, but that's only a small part of what make a team good at Apex. TSM has Hal, Verhulst and Reps - all cracked - but they didn't do so well at Champs... it wasn't because they're bad at the game.
Teams that win think outside the box, play a ton and have great vibes. They'll be constantly positive and driven to win.
So centre the team around Sweet (IGL), make sure Nafen is happy with Sweet's leadership and is going to play a ton. And then find a third who they BOTH have great vibes, is cracked and who also plays a ton. And then play a ton - reviewing vods, scrimming, and so on...
Lou to NRG
It’d be insane! I almost want it to happen for the Rostermania fallout alone. Lol
Guess we poaching reps from TSM
Sorry Hal! 🤷♂️
Lou since he’d he able to play any charatcer
You get the very best controller player you can find
Snipedown as contoller fragger, Keon as gibby main
Easy. You get snipedown in October to be your roller fragger
NRG Slurp no doubt
Keon has been fragging lately, as much as I hate controllers, he consistently smacks
just get snipe and be done with it
Why hasn't chaotic been picked up by a tier 1 org yet. Am I the only one that thinks he's the best controller player?
Gent or Lou.
Unless Genburton is comes out of left field with interest in joining.
Honestly with how the meta is slowly shifting away from a Gibby I’d say go for a controller fragger.
Day after Lan in rostermania thread, I started speaking a Rocker x Lou swap into existence. We are so close
As much sense as that makes I honestly think Lou’s ego would be an issue. I think Sweet needs to get a more mellow teammate. Gild fits that role very well, as does Fun, Knoqd, Naughty, Gent and to a lesser degree Brooknam’s finest SlurpeeG.
I kinda agree with you about Lou. Sweet is so good at micromanaging his teammates. It probably works best if they just do whatever he says.
Yep! I’ve seen it. I don’t wanna jinx it.
The best pickups they could get for MnK / Gibby no order is
All of these guys can play Gibby or flex to other characters to play different comps.
The best controller pickups they could get are
All all of these guys have proven they can play insanely well as controllers playing zone which I think is important to NRG’s play style. Raw fighting, I think there’s better options but we’ve seen with Verhulst there’s a pretty steep learning curve going from edge to zone.
The only realistic pickup out of these 6 imo is Gild. I can’t see Mande, Reps, Gen, or Fun leave their team.
I’m guessing with the loss of their coach iG will want to make it work with J instead of finding a 4th third since split 1 playoffs so they’ll fight to keep him if he got a better offer.
OMG Mande is their Gibby and slays like that??? I can’t believe I never noticed that. Dude is a monster!
Good stuff! You make great points. Thanks for the response!
Yeah I see people throwing names of roller players that are used to looting half the game then playing edge and taking fights. I don’t how, for example, Naughty would do sitting in a building and poking with the 3030 (with a scope if he’s lucky) he gets in the 60 seconds they have to loot at Staging
I admittedly didn’t consider that, myself. The right situation/fit is really important, I think. Look at Pandxrz, for example. He’s really blossomed with this iteration of Furia.
Also, seems like Staging loot has been ass of late.
Imagine HisWatson with Sweet as his igl
It’d be crazy, but I’m not sure how it’d work out. So much of what HisWattson does seems to go against the grain of what the more traditional pros like Sweet believe. But I’m also an idiot. Lol
Best controller player for NRG? Pandxr.
Furia's KP farming macro + Sweet's endgame call = best team ever? It will also weaken one of the best NA teams right now.
Seconded would love to see Pan in a big org
That’s a scary thought.
MNK demons (not looking at exclusively Gibby since Gibby may not be hard meta going forward, sorry for breaking your rules :D)
* Louis Streamerson
* rpr (but only if sweet also swaps to controller)
Add cheeky gent and mande and I like this list
Originally had Mande on my list for mnk players when I was thinking about exclusively Gibby players, but then decided we likely won't have a Gibby meta forever so wanted to just get the most in-general cracked players I could think of
is caprah allowed to compete or is he too young still? forgot his age but kid is a demon for sure
He said he was LFT so I think he's gonna be 16 in time for the next split
turned 16 today
How could you!? 😫
Any of those options would be insane though!
Noo this is Patrick
No, this is Patrick.
MANDE is Botha decent Gibby and crazy fragger.
What’s wrong with Rocker tho
I think Rocker said it best in his LFT post.
Even if it's unrealistic, if it was me:
Mande, Reps, Lou
Gild, Gent, Genburten
Assuming chemistry isn’t a factor here, I’m surprised no one talks about Resultuh if Sweet wants both a gibby and a controller player, dude is literally one of the top gibby controller players
(although I don’t think he is a choice if they’re looking for a controller fragger with versatility in general)
Gent or Gild are my favorites tbh buuut imagine NRG stoles Fun from liquid imo Fun ranges is amazing
NRG Doop has a nice ring to it, and sweet+ dooplex is a vibe on its own, some of the chillest dudes on stream, but thats just a pipe dream for me.
Huskerrs, he deserves to be put out of the suffering simulator known as warzone
Hear me out. Genburten. In 2019 NRG rocket league had a top NA roster that was known to come up just short of championships. They made a move to add the goat of rocket league turbopolsa and move him from EU to NA to join the roster and they ended up winning a world championship because of that move. I don’t know if they will really go for gen but NRG as an org is certainly willing to try something like that.
Genburten, Reps, Lou, Naughty, Yuki, Gild and Mande seem like top picks off the top of my head.
Are you sharing this to show that it’s already been done / already being talked about? My bad, if so.
I was trying to approach it from a different angle. This was more for fun rather than actually trying to predict who it’s gonna be. That’s why I added the part about being able to poach anyone from any team, although we know that’s not realistic.
And I was curious about who everyone saw as the top players for each role.
To be honest I was reading that other thread, clicked off of and saw yours thought "check this comment thread for some deetz and info yo!"
Oh, gotcha! Well, I appreciate that, then. Thank you!
The only options are gent and gild