By - Top-Anteater7725
These idiots want to prohibit ranked choice voting. A better system of vote that we currently use. Why would you prohibit it. These fucking people are so fucking stupid.
They want to hold onto their power. That's all they care about.
Honestly this is more infuriating. GOP knows ranked choice would kick their gerrymandered asses out, for that reason I bet it'll pass.
Why are Democrats co-sponsoring the bill? Is Bill DeMora a Dem in name only or something?
Ranked Choice can hurt both parties.
Seems like the entire comment section here is confusing SB137 (bipartisan) with SB158
We just saw the agenda and noticed another shitty thing the state government is doing. Not confusing it at all.
Ranked choice voting will allow more freedom for voters, fringe candidates will actually get a chance so of course the most powerful politicians in both parties are motivated to stop it, they don't want to be challenged in primaries or third partied.
With how shitty our democratic candidates are in this state ranked choice would allow people to voice that while still ensuring it wouldn't hand anything to Republicans so of course those democrats are against it.
Yea. That’s a nice law you have there, It’d be a real shame if someone were to pass a constitutional amendment about it. Make your family vote in a ranked choice manner. Would be a real shame.
all the love on the this thread for RCV! you love to see it! has everyone joined r/RankTheVoteOhio and signed up at [rankthevoteohio.org](https://rankthevoteohio.org) etc etc etc
Because republikkkans don't want to lose power
SB137 would ban ranked choice....and it's technically bipartisan being sponsored by a Republican and co-sponsored by a Democrat.
Respectfully, I think you've got it a bit muddled. SB137 is the dem co-sponsored bill to prohibit[Ranked Choice Voting.](https://www.rankthevoteohio.org/) SB158 is the bill sponsored by Cirino (R Lake County) that's trying to prevent residents in the City of Cleveland from being able to vote on Ballot Issue 38 on Nov 7 in Cleveland, which is an initiative for[participatory budgeting.](https://www.pbcle.com/)
Thank you, you're spot on.
Because republicans knew the importance of local politics 60 years before liberals got the idea that maybe Congress and the US president isn't the most effective path towards social reform.
Any attempt by Cuyahoga or Cleveland at making genuinely left wing reforms are regularly shut down and codified against them into law.
This is nothing new the state has been doing this for the last 20 years.
Try and make a state reform and they wheel out "home rule" faster than a high school substitute with the TV and VHS player on a cart.
Because ranked choice voting is a threat to the two-party system that keeps them in power.
How about the ranked choice voting ban. What pieces of shit.
He is another piece of shit. Republican.
Helped Fraud the people of Ohio with
His lies about Perry nuc plant. Saying they employed 700 people. Such bullshit.
He is one of the reasons you pay more for elec and gas!
Don’t worry, the local democrat machine is very against this too! Keep your fingers out of their pie!
There are people in both parties that don't want Ranked Choice Voting- but especially the GOP. They've made it hard for the Libertarians in this states to gain any traction, and they don't want to lose that. They know a lot of right-leaning people in Ohio would vote Libertarian over them if it was a real choice.
Savvy observation u/fooledbyasmile! Over at r/RankTheVoteOhio we are trying to really get that message out and connect with conservative Ohions.
There is so much establishment resistance to citizen led funding, that it has got to be good.
2%. If any cleveland department can’t find a way to manage that, with all the bloat, corruption and patronage jobs, I’d be shocked. We wouldn’t be here if the elected officials did what the people wanted.
Let’s get this passed!
Lol antigovt drivel. I assure you that most depts are understaffed, underpaid and overworked.
Downvote me into oblivion, but PB is not the answer. You don't just pass this and *poof* magically you have the money. You need to unwind it from every department to get there. Government budgets aren't as easy as your home checkbook.
PB talking point: just take it from the stadium deal(s)! Have fun breaking a contract. They make it sound sooooooo easy and it isnt.
Yeah, so do nothing and heckle others online when they try
Huh? PB cle supporters are the one heckling everyone online lol just take a look at Twitter these days.
Hardly anti government, but totally anti patronage and anti corruption.
Cle is not a wealthy city. "Do more with less" doesn't work nearly as well in the real world as it does in our imaginations.
This will also would negate the citizens fund in the city of Cleveland
Of course City council's already trying to get that thrown out they want to be in control of the money and they don't want citizens to have an input on it
That is one of the checks and primary powers granted to the Legislature, that it has the power of the purse.
We are not a direct democracy.
Now maybe you think we should be and there are those since before the founding that have argued this.
Cirino is the most conservative politician in the state! If he had his way, Ohio would be run like Florida,
He's the idiot who introduced a bill to massively reform college education in Ohio so it would align with the system and standards of Florida. He wants all college students to take an American history class with a very prescribed curriculum. Free speech and thought would be outlawed in liberal arts courses. The word "Woke" describes him well!
Because he's happy with the current status quo and doesn't want anything that could possibly change it.
Cerino is awful.
He’s trying to plant his daughter and his toady on mentor school board now
I liked Cerino better when he was trying to sell out Lake Health to Cleveland Clinic so he could get a top job there
My parents live just down the road from Cerino and have interacted with him quite a bit. I can confirm that he is the worst
I’m so sorry
Jerry Cirino needs to retire. He’s a desperate old man looking to keep himself relevant. Even his bad face lift can’t hide his mental decline.
He’s an awful human being, and he isn’t going to be satisfied until every person in Ohio is true and deeply fucked
The state of local rule until local dems put something forward.
Happens all the time- look at all the ways the state preempts local rule, bag ban, flavored tobacco ban, assault rifle ban, etc. etc.
Lol wtf up w downvote, literally how the state legislature works haha
Because things like rank choice voting would allow people who are not racist to gain political power in lake county
If a Republican sees somebody being helped, that's a no-go. Anything to improve voter access? Not gonna happen. Food for all the children? Hell no!
Lake County is the worst! So red, so conservative, and most of the residents are assholes. This does not surprise me at all.
Yes, all 220k lake county residents are conservatives.
Didn’t say all. But from the responses, I’d say I proved my point
Sorry you said most. So 200k residents. It’s just a really stupid blanket statement to make.
I lived there for 40+ years. I know the people, I know the demographics. The way the people talk about Cleveland is gross and filled with stereotypes. I had someone ask me if I carry a GUN on the RTA. This is not just one isolated incident. So many of the people in Lake County live in fear of “others”. Again, I didn’t say all.
You can say racist, they are aggressively racist
I agree, but I didn’t want to paint “broad strokes”. Neither of my brothers have left Lake County and they are horribly racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic and ableist. They are BAD people. I had to leave, I felt like I had no choice.
Paint with a broad brush much?
Well, I lived there for 40+ years. I’m basing this off numerous interactions with the general public, not to mention HS and working with the public. I’m sure there are liberals in Lake County but they are few and far between.
“Lake County tends to be slightly republican based on voting results in recent elections.”
Thank god. Libtards please stay out.
90% of your recent comments are calling people morons. Is that your thing?
Sucking trumps dick is his thing.
What kills me is these are the kind of people who are sooooo afraid of the “city”. They come for sports or good restaurants, then go back to Lake County and complain about how dirty it is or the homeless. Then stay OUT! My brother, a Lake County resident, asked me if I was afraid to take the bus. He told me to CARRY a weapon on the bus to protect myself. But again, these are the same people who think falafel is the weirdest, spiciest, thing you could eat.
I never go to Cleveland. It’s a shit hole. 50+ year resident of LC. ps falfel or however it ls spelled tastes and smells like crap that comes out of my dogs ass. Stay in CLE we don’t want you here.
Yeah if the shoe fits….
Can you come up with any other insults? Moron is pretty good but I'm sure somebody of your advanced intelligence has the vernacular to conjure better insults for all the simpletons below you. You must be creative. I am sure you're smart enough. How else would somebody be able to critique others on their intelligence if they weren't a genius. I guess I'm just disappointed. Merriam's thesaurus has a wealth of synonyms for "moron" like dummy , numbskull, lunkhead and dimwit. Are you even trying? Or are you just the same sort of chucklefuck giggledick that you devote your time to insulting?
bro needs reddit to cut his fucking grass and has the audacity to “tard” anyone else. Crawl back into whatever Headlands meth lab you shambled out of, bitch boy.
I ain’t your bro. Thank god…
Are you my brothers?
I mean, their largest city had a documentary made about how often kids kill themselves as a result of bullying in the schools. Another town was featured on 60 minutes for their overt racism and homophobia during sporting events. Hard to say they are not assholes.
Kids being awful in high school - I’m sure that’s only in lake county 🙄
It had enough suicides as a result of those kids being awful in highschool that it caught the attention of statisticians, and they made a documentary about it. That's not everywhere. In the documentary, they do talk about they mentality of the town being "bullying happens everywhere" as being a large factor of why it's so rampant in Lake County. There was even another national news piece at the time calling the school "Suicide High".
You need to watch the video about Mentor. Ohio High school very alarming.
We hate you too. Stay out of LC.
I don’t plan on going back, so you’re safe. I’d rather live somewhere where there is diversity and I’m not afraid to be a queer person.
That explains it. You people are “special”. Not in a good way.
Save it for Facebook and your senior citizen friends. They will love your hatred.
I will definitely discuss it with all of my successful and wealthy friends that pay taxes, follow the laws and don’t live off the government. It’s free entertainment for us. Thanks.
Pps. You can annex eastlake too. It fits better in CuY County. That city is just a result of the locust swarm slowly spreading east from Cleveland.
Locust swarm? What does that mean?
Blacks and poors, apparently
No no. Let him say it.
Sure. I will say it. Criminals and drug addicts.
“Criminals and drug addicts” = conservative-speak code for “blacks Hispanics poor people who look different lgbtq”
If the shoe fits….
Just admit you’re a racist. We already know but it will be refreshing to see you say it
White people going to keep moving! They are who left the old neighborhoods in Cleveland to begin with.
Yup. Stared out living in Wickliffe then Menner and now farther east. I will keep migrating as things get worse.
Thats what happened. Ethnicity neighboorhoods use to exist. Polish etc
Cuyahoga county is the worst. The county can't run itself and the lovely mayor Boob is worthless. We in Cuyahoga county have to pay high ass taxes for all of the ghetto trash neighborhoods that can't / don't contribute. I'd move back to Lake County in heartbeat. Republicans know how to get shit done and Democrats want free handouts and don't contribute to shit. They're all lazy, whiners who cry and complain when they don't get their way.
Welp, time for Cleveland to start annexing and consolidating public offices. If we didn't have 20 individual court systems, mayor's office, police departments, etc, maybe we'd have money to actually build up our region.
No money to be made in that...never happen.
Pachyderm party candidates win by slim margins so while in power they are using it to hedge the vote.
SB158 is about eviction and Cleveland Issue 38 is about using public funding to support/oppose ballot issues in city communications
You’re looking at an SB158 from a prior session of the state Congress.
Also, Cleveland Issue 38 is about participatory budgeting. The public funds for ballot issue campaigns thing was a proposed piece of legislation from city council, but they didn’t end up taking any action on it at the most recent meeting.