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UCLAlex

You could have built any city in the world but chose to take inspiration from Phoenix ?


BasicComplexities

I was thinking salt lake(less) city


LAM678

nah it looks like he took inspiration from Real Civil Engineer's favorite shape


South-Satisfaction69

RCE is horrible when it comes to planing cities in cities skylines. He’s very funny though.


Pathos316

CityPlannerPlays: This tree is one pixel out of alignment… *inhale* Let’s not make perfect the enemy of good. RCE: Let’s have an underground airport in the strongest shape that’s next to a poo volcano where all the architects live!


LAM678

he's fucking hilarious though.


South-Satisfaction69

Agree


Terarri

Do you also work for the Houston Texas planning department?


UnconsciousDonut

Induced Demand Moment


Mysterious-Laugh2818

this is more like the mess off highways in dfw


rinadeithe

Is that a not just bikes reference?


ChwatBot

No, that’s just Houston


Jarrf

Feels like home


ellietheotter_

Greater Los Angeles Suburban Area called: they want their urban planner back from the dungeon


evilroyslade420

as someone who lived in Redlands for three and a half years: yes great idea make on and off ramps for the freeway every 500 feet. i for one cannot see any problems with californians trying to merge (at 35 mph on a 70mph freeway) constantly.


ellietheotter_

i see your redlands and raise you my Pomona experience for the last 10 years


evilroyslade420

praying for you brother/sister


GoDoWrk

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Mxdanger

Yeah exactly what I was thinking, that’s an insane amount of highways.


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r/fuckcars moment 😳


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Succ425

Do not let r/fuckcars see this


Robot_Basilisk

OP needs to be in witness protection *yesterday.*


VaultJumper

Too late


Carlos_Caracas

I'm in both subs hehe


wobblebee

We're urban planning nerds. We've already here lol!


verynothelpfulperson

is that a fetish sub? god people are weird these days


verynothelpfulperson

i've tried fucking cars before but the exhaust pipe is too hot for my liking


j_rogers86

Some people like it "hot," though I imagine the real concern could be slight amount of rust and resulting metal flakes. I've had metal slivers before, but from working on furniture. This....would be a new world of pain.


Succ425

I tend to agree with their main idea that we need less cars in cities and give people the option to use public transit, but a lot of them are a bit crazy


-eagle73

Reddit makes good ideas unbearable. Anti vaxxers are problematic but Reddit users are super annoying about them.


funny_b0t

They want to ban all cars, destroy all the freeways, and bike tens of hundreds of miles


BakaFame

Chads.


rollerCrescent

Based


Succ425

I mean, they're kinda right. The US isn't a great model to follow because of how automobile centric it is. How many big cities here have extensive, functioning public transport options or everything you need in walkable distance? Compare that with Europe, China, India where you have metros, buses, trams etc. We also don't really need freeways cutting through a big city. But they do take it a bit too far for sure. You can't ban all cars. Public transport often doesn't offer the ability to get around on your own time, and go wherever you want precisely. But again that comes back to the main point. You should have as many options as you want to get somewhere. You wanna take your car? You wanna bike? You wanna walk? You wanna take a train or tram? You wanna hop on a bus? The US just doesn't have those options.


minimuscleR

> and bike tens of hundreds of miles Nah, I'm a pretty big member of the sub, and its about banning the enforced use of cars, and putting money into other things not just freeways. We want everyone to be *able* to use a bike. Currently it just takes too long to bike to the shops, but shops should be closer, same with schools etc. So that you can if you want. You can always drive in any world, but it should be easy to not drive too if you dont want.


Robot_Basilisk

You jest, but it is a fetish sub. I say this as someone that fully supports replacing cars with trains, bike lanes, pedestrian paths, and mixed-use zoning: That sub is full of zealots that often go to irrational extremes with their hatred of motor vehicles. The sheer hyperbole you often find there borders on the comical, but the visceral emotion is so real that you know many of the posters legitimately loathe motor vehicles with every fiber of their being, and they do not hesitate to tell you this. So it's a fetish sub for moral outrage. People stroke eachother off about how cars are not just bad, or that car-centric city design tends to be extremely poor for human flourishing, but that cars are actively, maliciously evil. That sub could probably go toe to toe with vegans and win in terms of moral outrage over their chosen cause. Again, I say this as someone that fully agrees that we should transition away from the extreme use of motor vehicles we see today.


Sophisticated_T-Rex

Else they'll bring their toxic circle-jerk here, too.


KrysBro

Is there a fuck cyclists sub Reddit? Asking for a friend


manyartheadfull

yeah it's called literally any mainstream sub where a cyclist is mentioned


KrysBro

I’m glad, in my town they have they’re own lanes everywhere yet still choose the road


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MikeOnABike2002

I am not saying cyclists should or shouldn’t use cycle lanes if they are available, I often cycle outside of the cycle lanes if someone is too slow as I need the path of least resistance. I am however predominantly a pedestrian and the number of times I am given the green light to cross the road and then a cyclists whizzes past me with no regard for the traffic lights being red is infuriating and I find it really risky for myself. If this were cars, they would be punished but cyclists aren’t so they continue. I think this confidence is aided by the fact that the route has segregated cycle lanes and the fact that the road is bus only so there isn’t a lot of car traffic at intersections.


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MikeOnABike2002

I know. I think the original comment that I made had been poorly worded. I should have specified that my grievances are more local than general. Just where I am, cyclists and busses are the only traffic on the road. The fact that you have mostly cyclists and the occasional bus has essentially made cyclists the new drivers in arrogance.


KrysBro

Idk man maybe Wrexham is just backwards but I ain’t making this shit up, they’ll hold up traffic for no good reason, our pedestrian paths are very wide and they get shared by cyclists and pedestrians, why on earth would they choose the roads is beyond me


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rollerCrescent

Cyclists and pedestrians sharing one path is very dangerous no matter how wide it is—cyclists are much faster and are not able to stop on a dime or weave thru traffic easily. While it’s not as dangerous for a pedestrian to be hit by a bike as it is to be hit by a car, pedestrians should not have to worry about dodging rapidly moving vehicles of any kind, and cyclists shouldn’t have to weave through slow-moving traffic at risk of injury. Cyclists sharing the road with motor traffic is 100% safer for all involved—although of course, the safest choice is to split the three modes up entirely, as much as possible.


MikeOnABike2002

I prefer the idea of cyclists far more than drivers but sometimes... The way cyclists abuse the fact they've got dedicated, segregated cycling infrastructure, they are trying to ensure that no more investment goes into cycling.


KrysBro

I used to be a cyclist myself if anyones interested, I just wasn’t a dick 😅


MikeOnABike2002

Not all cyclists are, but way too many are.


KrysBro

It’s a loud minority if that makes sense, most of them arnt dicks but some of them are bellends


jokersleuth

that's because cars kick debris into bike lanes, they're often obstructed and unmaintained. Shocker that they would rather cycle on a cleaner area. They also pay taxes for that same road.


KrysBro

No they don’t, they pay tax, I pay tax + road tax 😅 and on top of that I pay MOT and insurance, not sure why you would bring that up lol (Not saying they should pay road tax though) also, roads have pot holes but you don’t see cars using the pavements for that reason like tf? I think most cyclists will agree that if they have their own lane then they should use it, if not then they are just assholes


jokersleuth

so you're mad you have to pay extra to use the same road, yet you're taking it out on cyclists?


KrysBro

No I’m not mad, I’ve just said I don’t think cyclists should be taxed for roads, that would be incredibly unfair, for example cyclists are not aloud on highways and other fast roads so taxing them would be a downright robbery


theCroc

This game needs more realistic road maintenance costs. No way a town of 225k can even begin to pay for all that.


Melikemommymilkors

And more realistic railways because chuga chuga choo choo


Rude-Orange

There is a transit mod that lets you modify all public transit to have more realistic capacity.


Melikemommymilkors

Ik ik, am a transit connoisseur myself 😃


BakaFame

Which 👀


Rude-Orange

I believe it is called Improved Public Transport 2 by BloodyPengiun!


BakaFame

Its the one i subbed to then! Since theres two


AmadeoSendiulo

And more realistic railwaysand and bike infrastructure because fuck c*rs.


Nawnp

Well the population scaling isn't exactly realistic anyways.


Lukeomalacia

the population isn’t fudged like in simcity. simcity fudges the pop. so that it gives you a realistic number but doesn’t tell you how many sims are simulated. in skylines cims aren’t fudged and give you the number of simulated cims. the fudged pop. is usually around 3x the simulated one, so the pop. of this city would be around 675k. still could barely pay for the road maintenance but hey


Reverie_39

The population isn’t meant to represent real life. I generally find that the way cities look in this game typically suit a city of 5-10x its population in real life.


Chrisiztopher

Do they actually use it though?


RQK1996

I think the ai is programmed to prefer them


Arthur_da_dog

They are, slightly


Chrisiztopher

I found the outside connections just hit the first exit


jcshy

Yeah they are I think, AI calculates the fastest route somewhere (I think?) so they usually prefer motorways / highways / freeways whatever cause of the faster speed Edit (to clarify): even if a freeway is a longer distance than another road, CIMs will likely use it if it gives them a shorter arrival time


vereysuper

It really should account for the average congestion of the network and redistribute trips to other modes as they become faster. Not sure if it does or not.


jcshy

I don’t think the game does have that cause my CIMs will literally just drive straight into a traffic congested area when they could get to their destination quicker by going around the block


Nawnp

It only pre decides that, too much cpu power to live calculate traffic (but of course mods change that).


jrinvictus

Correlation != causation. They prefer fastest route, doesn’t matter the road.


jcshy

Total distance v travel time is very different though. If there’s a 30 speed limit road that’s shorter, I’m pretty sure they’ll choose the 70 speed limit road even if it’s longer as they’ll be able to get there quicker


jrinvictus

Right but that doesn’t mean they prefer motorways. You are conflating the two. I can flip the script and make a two lane road faster and longer and the quickest route to point b over a highway. They will choose the two lane road. Your assertion is correct expect for preference of road type. That’s what I’m pointing out.


jcshy

Oh yeah I don’t dispute that, it’s just because usually a motorway would be the network with the fastest speed limits so that’s why I used it as an example


RQK1996

Right into a gridlock, usually


funny_b0t

I also increase the speed limit with a mod from ridiculously slow limits to 85-90 mph lol. Don't care if they crash!


Nawnp

AI will take the fastest pre planned route, and the faster highway speeds will tend to lead to that.


jrinvictus

This is incorrect information


rl69614

*Shortest time with no traffic which usually ends up being the faster highways but not always. If the AI had traffic monitoring then they could avoid back ups and take side roads


funny_b0t

yes


ReasonableCloakerAlt

JUST. ONE. MORE. LANE.


bunjtastic

The American Dream


AmadeoSendiulo

Nightmare


PresidentPootis

For some reason big cities(by area) are still less populated than the original ones with the same area. Anybody knows why is that?


doubleUsee

Well, Cities uses a very different balance from real life as for occupants per building. the high density housing can feature a 80 floor building that's housing max 48 families or whatever. The high tech businesses are ridiculous, 100 floor buildings with 5 employees. The reason for this is obvious, if you'd have realistic numbers you'd drown in traffic and your small town would already kill your computer pretty soon, but it does mean that SC is using a tuned and balanced number of occupants. They might've dialed it up or down over the years to work better.


The_Thyphoon

Realistic Population Edit: name plus link https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2025147082


whyy99

The Realistic Population mod is a good fix and does not kill you computer nor drown you in traffic if your city is built well


doubleUsee

How does it work? Just beef up the numbers without adding any cims? I'll check it out for sure, There really is a mod for everything....


ricksdetrix

It just changes the numbers of buildings. Base game has 4 household per low density 4x4 home, where as realistic pop has 1 household. High density in base game has something like 16 households whereas realistic pop has more like 48, depending on the size. Same goes for commercial, offices etc. It's a great mod but youll be building suburbs for the rest of time and will have to learn to use high density sparingly


jcshy

Gotta agree that the Realistic Population mod definitely has you reconsidering using high density. I spent hours building the best area I’ve ever built, purposely high density to replicate what’s popping up in cities now. Built what I thought was the perfect transport network (without the mod, would have worked) and then pressed play. It choked instantly and it ruined my week. Had to delete and start again🤣


BoomerKeith

All that has been mentioned plus you can customize buildings. If you think a building would have more or less occupants, you can change the number for that building, or all that are like it.


Zajum

In addition to that the game is also much denser than a typical American City because it uses less parking space


FallingUpwardz

Normal cuties use underground parking everywhere Edit: meant to write cities, wrote cuties, point still stands so im leaving it


doubleUsee

Parking underground is absolutely adorable.


Alexdeboer03

I think you got some city in your highway


AmadeoSendiulo

Who needs a city when you can have asphalt?


videal1

Whats your trafic flow?


college_dropout_69

Needs more highways.


AmadeoSendiulo

And more lanes, why there are houses anyway?


college_dropout_69

Demolish everything, build parking lots 👍


BackseatArmy

This is horrible, i like it!


jjacobbnn

this is so american it hurts


AmadeoSendiulo

I'm, glad I don't have it in my county.


Paldorei

Looks nice but god its american


Ayman493

Bruh please tell me you got a decent transit network as well!


funny_b0t

None at all ;) in fact I demolished the default train tracks!


Ayman493

Oh dear, not even buses??


AmadeoSendiulo

No trams?


Background_Check5149

How can I have a map like this of my city?


Robot_Basilisk

Someone elsewhere said it was a mod named CSL Map View, I think.


Mafiakeisari123

Houston department of planing has approved this


ybanalyst

This is all too much. You have exits just a couple blocks from each other. Kansas City doesn't have this freeway density and it's twice the population and very freeway-happy. Freeways don't need to go everywhere. Just pick a few high-volume routes and place them there with well-spaced exits. If you still have traffic problems, zoning may be more of the issue. People need to have everything they need close by so they don't have to travel across town in the first place.


InFearAndFaith2193

Kansas isn't located in Cities: Skylines though.


ybanalyst

Kansas City is widely recognized as having one of the most overbuilt freeway systems, and even they didn't go this extreme.


jcshy

Gotta remember CS isn’t very true-to-scale though, if this was 1:1 scale with real life, the exits probably wouldn’t be as close


ybanalyst

Fair, but even if we do, say, a conversion of 1 block = 1/4 mile, it's still far too dense.


Nawnp

Is Kansas City really that different than any other large US City?


mmmbacon914

In real life, yeah, but in CS don't cims just pick a commercial area at random to visit, even if it's super far away? It seems like for the game is makes sense to make it as easy as possible to move back and forth across the whole city even if it's lousy real life planning.


funny_b0t

The cemetery people literally go across the map to pickup someone when there's a cemetery right by that person's house. I think the game should choose the closest one, traffic would be much better.


ratohnhake-ton

Can i ask you why this is bad? I do a similar thing?


AB365_MegaRaichu

And I thought I used a lot of freeways


doubleUsee

I think it's very aesthetically pleasing. How did you make this map? By hand, or do you use a tool?


Hves99

not op, but "csl map view" is the mod you use for these kind of maps.


deoxyrybonucleic

r/shittyskylines


AmadeoSendiulo

xDDD yes


amagiriayato0912

r/urbanhell


franko1260

r/fuckcars wants to have a word


AmadeoSendiulo

We do.


SSPolcyc

Interesting


rob3342421

I feel sorry for every driver in your city 😂


AmadeoSendiulo

I feel sorry for every not-driver there, I don't care about dr*vers.


AlkyneLive

i challenge you to replace it all with public transit


AmadeoSendiulo

In real life.


BiG_SQUiD_

Youre out of your damn mind... and i love it, great job


littleoad_on_reddit

How do you do this picture?


Zajum

CSL map view


danonck

This made me crave spaghetti


Daripuff

Mama mia that's a lotta spaghetti!


tagurfriends2bumpem

Very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s freeway system


rl69614

What is that atrocious thing in the lake?


funny_b0t

That's what happens when I try not to destroy buildings.


DatCarpet

My city with a 400k population didn’t have any highways lmao r/shittyskylines


bafometu

70% freeway, 30% city


TiberiusAugustus

demolish all of this immediately


Lovehistory-maps

Let people play the game how they want to


TiberiusAugustus

make me


Lovehistory-maps

Your fun


AmadeoSendiulo

No. 🚲🚎🚈!


Lovehistory-maps

You dont have to play realistically dumbass 💀


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EveryoneSadean

Why are you here?


Succ425

Holy shit, let play people play the game however they want


tchibao

What are you using to draw this map? Real question here


M1rkoe

This question is a kind of meme by itself ..


tchibao

You are not really answering here. Is it a mod or sth?


M1rkoe

The answer is mentioned in this comment section alone at least 2 times. And on any other thread with this pictures of this kind.. Would you mind just reading, rather than treating us like a service hotline?


tchibao

You writing all this when you could just say the answer. Thanks anyway


Sarntetra187

Useless response. Just because you’ve seen something before doesn’t mean everyone has seen it as well.


Sarntetra187

A mod called CSL map view.


Unlucky-File

How can you see the map like that in game???


mathario

Mama mia that’s a spicy meatball


Kalebxtentacion

Two more lanes and congress will be in love with this city


socialcommentary2000

I love this.


expiredyoghurtcase

You demolished the railway for those southern council houses, did you?


funny_b0t

yes ;)


expiredyoghurtcase

Why


captainkirk619

That freeway system looks scary I can see a bunch of unnecessary roads LOL


youtubeTAxel

Oh god


alexis_1031

Holy fuck, you made this game super realistic and by realistic i mean you made the DFW area.


mrprox1

How many in game squares are being used? Sorry if it’s a stupid question!!


Jaken005

Holy Robert Moses!


justanotherwhyteguy

i love the dystopian american vibes


maualkla

Lots of spaghetti


Mysterious-Laugh2818

phoenix and LA had a baby i see


sdmichael

Even Los Angeles doesn't have that many.


Sweg_lel

how do you take these type of screenshots?


DalekSupreme26

I’m going to build this in Minecraft.


DalekSupreme26

Oh shit wrong game


Corrupt_Stormer

Ah yes i see you Like your Coffee just like your City Planning Americano Flavored ^(Also don't drink watered coffee kids, cause everyone will laugh at you on the starbucks)


East_Vegetable7591

It looks like a perfect city according to automobile industry. It would be hell to live there without a car. What's more, it's a pity that a lake is crossed with highways...


theonlywilliamg

What’s your traffic percentage tho


PhillipOliverHolmes

Respect.


bifordusmaximus

This is nice. If anyone thinks this is bad, they clearly haven't been to New York.


Porterpewmarkjack

The American highway.


Final_Objective3207

How do i make these maps?


jont106

bro there's a city in your freeway


ConflictSudden

Is there a mod or something that makes these maps? I love the way these look.


funny_b0t

cslmapview


ConflictSudden

Ohh. Thank you.


Alan789444444

nooooooo public transportation and only cars


Pathos316

One word: DIS GUS TANG!