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Opinion: The Pacific Northwest, strong and free: On the inevitable rise of Cascadia

Opinion: The Pacific Northwest, strong and free: On the inevitable rise of Cascadia

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MahStonks

I've lived my entire life on Vancouver Island and Vancouver. I was born here and don't ever plan to leave. And while I'm perfectly happy with some degree of connection and mutual respect and support in the northern and southern parts of the Cascadia region, I'm extremely glad for the existence of the border on the 49th parallel. Any movement towards erasing that border, or seceding from Canada, would get an extremely vigorous fight against it from me.


SusanOnReddit

Exactly. We are not the same. At all.


Dry_Cheesecake_2775

I agree fully - I love to head south of the 49th (when it’s allowed) but we are wildly different peoples. Signed, a 6th generation settler on Vancouver Island.


Dry_Dog_698

What kind of fantasyland is this author living in? I couldn’t even finish the article. Not only do British Columbians largely not want to secede, but a cascadia would require Washington state and Oregon to secede. Lol, nope. Not in any lifetime. I’m all for a simplified border process, high speed rail, and easing the movement of labour. But zero chance of any secession. Quite frankly the likelihood of secession has dropped A LOT since 2000 and continues to drop.


TheobromineC7H8N4O2

East Oregon and Washington are far more likely to secede from their dominant cities than any of these states or provinces are to secede from their countries.


oopapoopa

BC would have a greater chance of successfully seceding from Canada than Quebec or Alberta ever would. Expansive coast, access to Asian markets, plenty of skilled workers.


[deleted]

Yeah compared to Alberta that’s true. Compared to Quebec however, that’s wishful thinking’s


oopapoopa

Quebec has tried and said no to the idea of seceding. Possibly because Quebec's place in Canada is far more secure for it than seceding from Canada could ever bring it.


cjrowens

And why would the same not happen for BC. Do you think Vancouver would be any less hurt than Montreal economically with secession Canada only works as a vast and only vaguely cohesive federation because these border city states need eachother to be influential regionally in any way. It’s why Quebec wouldn’t leave without our not even that strong currency and it’s why no Canadian province will separate in the future unless some really crazy shit goes down and disorder sweeps the land


[deleted]

Still miles ahead what BC has ever tried. To say BC is in a better spot when a lot of footwork has been made already in Quebec is ridiculous.


oopapoopa

No footwork has been made in Quebec because it is still a Canadian province.


[deleted]

With an established sovereignty movement and added autonomy, two things BC lacks.


oopapoopa

Sovereignty movement that has long collapsed and same amount of autonomy as any other province.


cjrowens

Forget the movement The Canadian constitution has been changed by the CAQ in Quebec. They are sovereign and a nation constitutionally.


[deleted]

Sounds like you’re going back on your original comment, where you claimed that BC had “a greater chance”


oopapoopa

Not at all. If you read my comment it made no mention of Sovereignty movements or referendums to secede.


[deleted]

> BC would have a greater chance of successfully ***seceding*** from Canada than Quebec or Alberta ever would. Expansive coast, access to Asian markets, plenty of skilled workers. This you?


OkTangerine7

This thinking is no different than separatist Albertans or Quebeckers. "But we're different and special and you don't understand us!" Lots of Vancouverites and Calgarians and Torontonians think similarly. And also differently. So? Putting up random lines to divide people isn't a great way to advance our common interests and progress.