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[PRE-GAME DAY THREAD] Browns vs Cardinals

[PRE-GAME DAY THREAD] Browns vs Cardinals

shadowseeker3658

Would love a browns player to end Carl Cheffer’s career at this point.


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You guys go take a dump rn. So that we can cheer comfortably.


BikiniPastry

Ok so I typically watch the games on Hulu. It appears the Browns game won’t be there. What are my streaming options here? Edit: nothing worked. Thanks anyway guys. 🏴‍☠️ life it is.


Tomscott45

Fox now has it


TaeTheybie

YouTube TV has it


kilercrab321

Yahoo sports app, paramount+


sil0

It’s showing up on Hulu for me.


BikiniPastry

Dang wtf!? I wonder why I wouldn’t. It’s not on my yahoo app either.


sil0

Are you in CLE?


BikiniPastry

No Toledo area. I seem to be screwed. Game isn’t available anywhere for me. I really didn’t want to put the pirate hat on for this…


Cheesiepup

Fox sports


PabstyLoudmouth

Queen Latifa just jumped down 2 stories and roll the fall and got up fine, ain't nobody believing that shit.


PetrovskyKSC

I really do hate the stupid Chargers now


Youcanneverleave

All of the AFC West*


OP_Penguin

Yup. But I hate our defense being a bipolar mess even more


Raccoonsrlilbandits

Well until the head to head match up proves otherwise it looks like the ravens are the better all around team this year


iUPvotemywifedaily

Yeah we need 2 wins against the Ravens


PabstyLoudmouth

I am going to say we have a great day running the ball, 200 yards running and 250 passing. Good guys by 10.


Papasteak

Whoops


Mattt___lfc

Which jersey should I pick today. Myles or obj?


BikiniPastry

Myles. No OBJ hate either. Just think you can’t go wrong with Myles.


Mdsil11

Will we really need to sweep the rats . Ew


derf82

LOL, I don’t think I ever saw them switch games at the beginning of the 4th quarter.


thefronk

Alright I’m over it we just gotta play to win each week. Let’s smack the shit out of Arizona


huge_wang

How nice of the announcers to be making excuses for Herbert already


Buckeye2525

Ok geniuses who do you want as defensive coordinator since you all want to throw Joe Woods into Lake Erie


LakeErieMovement

Anyone else. There's hundreds of defensive coaches in the NFL. Pick one.


storm-father87

So the Chargers score 47 on us. And currently have 6 against the Ravens. Are we still blaming it on Clowney not playing? Or are we finally gonna admit that Joe Woods doesn’t know what he’s doing.


dmintz

I mean I don't know what to think of woods, but not just Clowney. I mean we were playing with AJ Green and Troy hill as our corners at the end. Like think about that. If anyone told you thank in the beginning of the season would you assume the DC is to blame about letting up a bunch of points?


storm-father87

Our defense wasn’t good last season either. So, yes, I’d assume that Joe Woods was continuing his ineptitude.


dmintz

Ok, but they looked like world beaters against the Vikings. It's been up and down. When they've been healthy the've been good, so I don't know what to think. (that excludes the chiefs game). I agree they should play more aggressive. I hate how much we play off and I'd rather have someone else, but its hard to know how much was him and how much was injuries.


storm-father87

We’ll see how they do today. I hope they have a great day, but I’m fully expecting Kyler to shred us


Mattt___lfc

It’s not one or the other, both things you mentioned are true. For the record I want woods gone but I also believe clowney is the key part of this defense.


fade_me_fam

No it can’t be Joe Woods he led great efforts against a Texans team after they lost their starting QB, a Minnesota team who is inept as they come after spending so much on a below average QB, and a young first time starter in Justin Fields. It just has to be injuries, despite Ravens being injury riddled as fuck and still playing well.


storm-father87

I believe Baltimore is the most injured team in the league. And allowing 41 fewer points than we did. Either our defense finds it’s footing or we will miss the playoffs.


innerdork

Ratbirds fans are gonna be even more intolerable than ever.


GonnaBeAGoodYear

You guys really need to relax in here lol


thepirateogre

These comments are more toxic than the ones from upset fans. What are you expecting?? "Man I was just so pissed off until u/GonnaBeAGoodYear told me to relax, thank god that guy came in here and shined his wisdom upon us, why didn't we think of that?"


Da_Cow

I know right let’s send some good vibes


LifesAMitch

WAY too much bitching about games we're not playing in.


DovhPasty

I mean they do affect us either way. We unfortunately kinda have to care about the division.


LifesAMitch

We've played 0 division games and it's week 6, so I just think it's very silly to care about where we sit in the standings right now.


Barlight

After watching the Chargers Raven game if i see the Browns go into this prevent defense shit today im going to explode...Fuck attack to fucking ball...


salenin

Soft zone allow up the middle, offense having to bail out the soft zone. Meanwhile we have Myles Garrett, Clowney, and JOK ready to attack.


LakeErieMovement

Get ready for send 4 drop back all game long


Youcanneverleave

Well at least you have a little over a half hour to prepare for it


Barlight

Well i just keep the beer flowing...


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mellowcheddar

Fuck dem hoes


d-a-f-f-y

It’s looking like we either win the division or miss the playoffs.


Raccoonsrlilbandits

Chill lol. Look at all the possible wild card teams Raiders who lost their coach to scandal Broncos who’s only wins are against the worst teams in the nfl Chiefs who have a pedestrian defense Bengals who aren’t bad but have a really had second half schedule


d-a-f-f-y

The Raiders OL will have more impact on how their season goes than Gruden being gone. We gotta win our divisional games.


iUPvotemywifedaily

I mean I’ll put $100 on the Chiefs not missing the playoffs assuming Mahomes stays healthy


Raccoonsrlilbandits

Yeah but that doesn’t mean we miss the playoffs


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Papasteak

Say what?


thepirateogre

Welcome to Cleveland. Here everything you're worried about will suddenly dissolve into bliss. All the calls will go your way and everything that could go wrong for the browns will. It's nothing to do with the Cardinals, just that's how games go here.


ForTheBrownsOnly

You have kyler who will legit run for 5 tds with how bad our defense is


TornadoApe

We won a playoff game like that last year so anything is possible.


fade_me_fam

You haven’t met your best offensive weapon yet, Joe Woods I presume.


ClevelandDawg0905

We have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot this year.


lobbywatson

How awful is it that if we drop today and Pittsburgh wins our entire season could be fucked.


ClevelandDawg0905

Ravens are the most likely to run away with the division.


lobbywatson

Really looking that way isn't it.


GonnaBeAGoodYear

That’s not true at all lol


BryanFnR

But in this 8 game season you can't afford 3 losses....


Buckeye2525

Chargers are the typical case of the media hyping a team and then laying an egg


cassshmeoussside

Chargers or browns ?lol


Buckeye2525

Yes


d-a-f-f-y

Fuck, everyone is already fitting Herbert for his gold jacket


PPQue6

I mean he isn't bad though. But I definitely agree that they need to chill with that and see how his career develops.


cassshmeoussside

If we don’t win the division making the playoffs after losing to chiefs and chargers will be very difficult


LakeErieMovement

Meh. There's 7 spots again this year. One of the Chiefs or Chargers will win the division. That means we just have to have a better record than the Bengals, Colts, Raiders, Broncos, Patriots and Steelers. We play 7 games against those teams above. We control our destiny.


Raccoonsrlilbandits

Every team you listed past the Bengals is actually just pretty bad. The best team is the raiders and they lost their coach to scandal and I’m sure they’ll collapse


Betru2thagame

Yep, 10 wins should realistically lock up one of the last 2 wild card spots


Allstar9_

Don’t tell anyone that today. They won’t believe you. Browns have no control


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Raccoonsrlilbandits

The ravens have like 17 guys on IR most of which are from their defense. They have a practice squad out there in a lot of spots but are doing great. So I mean


Hugeinjapan69

Aren’t the Ravens pretty banged up? Also I’d say we have a better defense than WFT. They are holding the Chiefs pretty well. Chargers were putting up points before the corners went out. See how today plays out, Cardinals are equal or a little better than the Chargers on O.


DovhPasty

We've been saying this shit about Woods for like 20 games now. It's time to go.


PPQue6

Stop defending Woods, he is the problem.


Allstar9_

Offense gave away the chiefs game and had a chance to ice the game after LA missed an XP. Bitch all you want about the bad defense but they had a chance to win it and couldn’t pull it off. In both losses.


ActuallyElla

The offense generated 42 points and the defense allowed 47.


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PPQue6

It doesn't matter who we have in his scheme, it fucking sucks. Even subpar players will do decently in a good scheme. And our defense is loaded, and yet looks very much like last years defense. Now why do you think that is...?


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PPQue6

Cool, our defense looked good against a bad 2 win team which btw is currently losing to the panthers....


LakeErieMovement

The Ravens and Steelers could field a defense full of UDFA and make it competitive. There's something fundamentally broken with Woods scheme.


Mind__Is__Blown

These other teams weren't going to just hand us the division, this is the AFC North. All the Browns can do is focus on getting the W themselves. We keep doing that and things will sort themselves out. This team still has a ways to go to become legit contenders in my eyes, and hopefully all that starts today.


PabstyLoudmouth

I will have to say Baltiturd was very impressive so far today


Mind__Is__Blown

Sad to say, but I agree. Hopefully we have a similar performance and shut down the Cards.


PabstyLoudmouth

Yeah, i obviously hate saying that, but thy destroyed them. I really do think today will be a statement game. We are coming back home and they have a terrible rush D. 200 yards rushing today for us. Johnson and Felton are chomping at the bit.


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Mind__Is__Blown

I'd say for sure they're the favorites at the moment.


derf82

I’m even more convinced Joe Woods’ defense is trash watching the Ravens kill the Chargers. So far the Ravens holding them to 6 while Woods let them hang 47.


PaulAspie

Let's see. We were doing not bad at this point in the game (the Ravens are doing a little better but given how many drops the Chargers have it may be more them than the Ravens). Plus, we were pretty injured last week (& still are unfortunately).


Raccoonsrlilbandits

The ravens have double digit guys on IR


derf82

The Ravens lost 3 running backs to season ending injuries. Injuries are a poor excuse.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

I've been saying it since the 2nd half of the Chiefs game


lewisb1987

Joe Woods is to defensive coordinators as Hue Jackson is to head coaches


PabstyLoudmouth

Chargers are killing themselves, that is like 12 drops so far today


Longboard4life246

Yes but his point still stands lol obviously the rat birds had a better defensive approach than us. Why gun sling with Herbert when you can stop them from scoring pts?


PabstyLoudmouth

That commercial with Dieken and Baker is funny as hell


Buckeye2525

I have a bad feeling about this one. The injuries are mounting and down both tackles does not give me a lot of confidence


DiamondEyes524

Does anyone else have YouTube tv and it shows the game as "unavailable"?


PabstyLoudmouth

Why could these Chargers not drop a few last week?


joey_1324

I hate to say it, but this is the Ravens division to lose they simply can beat the teams we couldn't.


nickpapa88

Lol it’s Week 6 — if we beat the Ravens 1 or 2 times it’s probable we win the division.


joey_1324

We've shown nothing that shows that we can beat the Ravens twice


nickpapa88

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TheyCallMeTheWizard

You think we beat this Ravens team twice if they play like this?


nickpapa88

Why not? We are the better team.


RatedPaulGeorge13

There’s literally nothing to support this but delusion lol


Raccoonsrlilbandits

Maybe? According to wins and losses which matters most we aren’t


nickpapa88

The Steelers were 11-0 last year so…


TheyCallMeTheWizard

What are you basing that on? They've beat the brakes off of both of the teams that handed us losses


nickpapa88

Common opponent means nothing — history has proven it. Ravens might be playing better currently. But we are the better team.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Ok based on what? I think we have better talent overall but our coaching just isn't the same caliber


gagglehear

Bengals and Ravens looking like wins for the day. Browns really need to come through today.


VDizzle12

Steelers have a guaranteed win too tonight against freaking Geno Smith.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

If we end up tied for bottom of the division with the Steelers I'm honestly not sure how bad I'll feel


VDizzle12

I would feel like a Browns fan.


EverybodyWangChung52

Ravens crushing Chargers, Chiefs getting beat by WFT, Minn struggling against Panthers, Houston getting manhandled, Bears getting beat pretty good. Kiiiiiinda makes us not look as good.


BakerStan

Let's wait until what happens today to start talking like this


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Clearly. There's some conclusion to be drawn here but I can't quite put my finger on it


EverybodyWangChung52

Teams that beat us getting beat pretty good


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Yeah which means... Our play won't hold up when we encounter good teams


EverybodyWangChung52

I mean the two best teams we’ve faced beat us, so kinda. Bears, Vikings, Texans all look like total trash. And even the chiefs look bad and they beat us.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

I'm there with you. I'm hoping they get concerned and fix something but if not it's going to straight up not be a good time when we start playing teams like Ravens and GB


GetGoodBKRandy

Lol stop


EverybodyWangChung52

It’s actually pretty important when it comes to strength of schedule for playoffs if it comes close


Fulgurah

No it's not. Strength of schedule is pretty damn far down the list of tie-breakers. https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures


LakeErieMovement

All of it comes back to the defense. The scheme is terrible if you don't send pressure.


ctg9101

Yea, the offense has had one off week, but the defense outside of that weak has been subpar (I attribute Bears more to Matt Nagy)


Da_Cow

Lfg and get this win


Da_Cow

Why every one so depressed in here Jesus Christ


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Da_Cow

Lmao remember when the lions almost beat them, quit crying and enjoy the football season.


thepirateogre

Pretty much everything that could go wrong for us has, always had and probably will continue to, and everyone else that directly competes with us have the opposite luck and consistently find ways to win even when they don't deserve it or they'll show up to games against good teams who just magically play the worst game of their season. We just got shit luck. The sports gods hate Cleveland.


LakeErieMovement

We're 3-2 when we should be 5-0. The Ravens are destroying a team we just lost to. We're about to play a fantastic team without both of our starting tackles and franchise back. Not exactly a lot to be optimistic about pre-game.


fade_me_fam

Because our defense coordinator is ass my dude.


CMHCommenter

I see we're back on the fire Joe Woods train


fade_me_fam

Never left. Been on board since they let Steelers, Titans, Cowboys, and Chiefs back into games we were commanding. On top of Broncos fans spouting how much he sucks for a while. (2017 there one year as DC they were the worst they’ve been on defense in forever). Watching Coombs with the Bucks and Woods with the Browns has been so miserable the last 2 years for defensive playcalling.


innerdork

I hate the fucking Ratbirds. That is all.


AlCapooter

Keep hoping Baltimore will drop one but it seems like our path to the division will be beating them twice. Divisional games should be brutal this year, that's where it's going to be won or lost Cincy looks pretty good and Pitt isn't going to roll over even though they look worse this year. Not the worst thing, I really want to see us take that next step and start winning these big games not just playing *really* close. We're close but it still feels we're a half step behind Baltimore, they always (and really fucking annoyingly) find a way to win.


easpert

this ravens game is exposing tf outta woods


fisted___sister

Eh. I’ve been off the Woods train for awhile, but the chargers had four drops in the first half alone, and have made really stupid mistakes. Can’t really make a declarative statement about our defense over one game between two separate teams.


AlCapooter

Watching this game just highlights it so much, they did that 4th down shit from their 20 against us too. Stop it and that pretty much meant the game as they were down 14 at that point I believe. And then those 2 freaking awful blown coverages, just gifting them 2 TD's.


PerplexingEnigma

I hate the ratbirds, but if you're dumb enough to go for it there you deserve that


thefronk

Nah I agree with going for it just terrible throw/play. Punting there is conceding the game.


Youcanneverleave

Our D needs to get its shit together or we’re gonna have a bad time.


fade_me_fam

LMAO The common denominator is looking like Joe Woods my god. Send pressure and force Herbert to be uncomfortable off balance throw. Instead we just sent 4 all game with occasional extra man blitz. How many seasons are we going to need with Woods until we finally drop him.


fisted___sister

We rush 5 or more the second least in the NFL. Cannot get the defense off the field like that. Gotta make QB’s uncomfortable. Prepare for them to continue that trend today though.


iUPvotemywifedaily

Yeah… the “stop the Joe Woods slander” was short lived lol


fade_me_fam

He was a hero when we were playing inept young offenses. Anytime we face contenders and legit teams he’s trash. Goes to show he cannot compete with actual competition.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

I am a proud Joe Woods slanderer and have never been deceived


fade_me_fam

True WoodsDoubters don’t succumb to fabricated Woods propaganda. We follow the common trend of subpar play calling and prep.


LakeErieMovement

Amazing what happens when you send blitzes on 3rd and 4th down.


boomerbrowns

The chargers looking like shit this week really sucks


PabstyLoudmouth

That was a stupid ass time to go for it on 4th down. You are on your own 20, WTF.


cpet72

Chargers are a fucking joke. Just goes to show that we have one of the worst defensive schemes in the NFL.


GreatGoogillyMoogily

They beat us. What are we?


cpet72

A team with quite possibly the worst defense in the league.


GA_A_P

That's an overreaction. But I do think our defense is league average as a whole. We have the talent to be top-10, but are likely held back by a poor scheme.


nolanstringer1

Lmao it’s not that bad


ThatSpartanKid

Why do KC and LAC only look like shit AFTER they beat us… is our defense that bad?


derf82

Yes


TheVelourFog92

Talent-wise it’s one of the best. Schematically, I’m unsure. Playcalling-wise, it’s atrocious.


randobot456

How is this LAC offense even the same team we saw last week?


d-a-f-f-y

Herbert out here missing wide open guys. It’s crazy. The football Gods love Baltimore


randobot456

Yea no shit. He looks like a high school player out here an he looked like Joe Montana vs us


Youcanneverleave

Yes


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Absolutely. And here's a hint: it's not the talent on the field.


GA_A_P

Talent-wise, we are a top-10 defense. However, when you factor in the scheme, we are league average to slightly below average.


PPQue6

Been saying it since last season. Woods is not a good DC. Everyone wanted to attribute it to the players we had, but anyone who was paying attention to the defense saw what the real issue was.


buckeyefan1930

I’m gonna miss being in the thread with y’all as I will be at my mother’s celebrating her millionth birthday 😂. Have fun. And Let’s go Browns!


thepirateogre

![gif](giphy|13BKcQEAf1o8Tu) I just don't understand why the browns have such shit luck. The ravens game has ruined football Sunday for me before we've even played lol. Even with the best roster in the division we just seem to have the worst luck, watching Baltimore beat the living shit out of the chargers and the Chiefs have a melt down after beating us and our injuries. It's just so fucking shitty. It hurts worse than the fucking winless seasons if you ask me. God hates Cleveland lol.


thefronk

At the end of the day, we can only win our games. As soon as we rely on others to lose (chiefs, ravens), we already lost.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

It's called defensive play calling. We scored about the same number of points on them at the half last week


thepirateogre

It's always something. Even when the team makes the right moves.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

I mean I haven't seen the defense make the right moves in these games. Take off the wide open TD's by Tyreek and Williams and you've got an undefeated record all of a sudden


Allstar9_

Your memory is pretty poor. Hill was covered by JJ3. Chubb fumbled in that game when we had control and Baker threw an INT. One bad DPI and we’re in a controllable situation in LA We can blame the defense on blown coverages but we can also say that at some point, the offense is gunna have to win it for us. They had two chances to ice the LA game and mistakes cost us the KC game.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Wait, why does that say anything about my memory? I know what happened but it doesn't make me wrong. You telling me you cover Tyreek f'ing Hill with a single safety? That's a classic Joe Woods blunder and those points taken off the scoreboard is a W


Allstar9_

Yes, it happens. You can’t have JJ3 on the field and not eventually trust him. You said he was wide open and he wasn’t, he was covered. Punter fumbling the ball also gave them points. Our “great” offense had a chance to win both games and take matters into their own hands and they couldn’t.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

He slipped coverage, you cover him with a CB and probably 2 defenders. A single safety on the most explosive player in the game is just a really stupid call that's tough to defend Doesn't mean we didn't give up points anywhere else, but what do you do just tell at people and say don't fumble? Those things happen, unfortunately sometimes all at once. The scheming is different


BikiniPastry

Is the game not airing today????


boomerbrowns

It’s on Amazon prime


BikiniPastry

I don’t think it is. I only see out up coming Thursday game there.