When he lies to Beatrice, tells her she's in Michigan with her family. Eating ice cream.
Bojack didn't owe her anything, but he tried to be kind. In that moment. It was beautiful.
My grandmother has bad dementia. It's been several years since she remembered anyone and those scenes are exactly what it's like. We don't tell her what happened to my grandfather or alcoholic uncle. But telling her she has grandkids/great-grandkids over and over again gives her some joy and peace, even if it's ephemeral.
that scene fucks me up not only because of his act of kindness, but his mothers as well. when people have dementia, usually soon before they die from it, they have lucidity the way she did. i dont know if they can be 'put back in the past' the way she was, but thats not the important part.
she wasnt allowed to eat ice cream as a kid. shes likely never had it. that wouldnt be a memory Bojack would be able to reinstate into her mind without planting the seeds prior to that one moment. she let him believe that he comforted her, and i think it says a lot that she did that in a moment he would never know the truth behind.
You can’t just screw everything up and then take a boat out into the ocean to save your best friend, or solve a mystery, and fly to Kansas. You need to do it every day.. which is so hard.
Accepting that he indeed is accountable for his actions. The way in the last episode he just accepts that PC will never work with him and Diane will never talk to him ever again, he will never have the same relationship with Todd, and he will never be able to mend his relationship with Hollyhock. He may have gone to prison for trespassing but having the power taken away from him that cannot be bojack, and just do things without consequences. I know he did other nice things, but maybe this was the best thing he did for himself.
He should not kiss bojacks feet everyday. He helped tod but he also never allowedd him the guest bedroom or any personal space. He never send tod away and avtivally sabotaged Tod who was trying to make something of himself and move out. Shure what Bojack did was nice, but not that nice since he was just using tod to silence the loneliness
He saved Todd from the improv ship that was awesome. And told him how he remembered when they first met. A lot of the hollyhock stuff was genuinely good too, I would say.
I find that so sad, because that show probably was the best thing he did, or at least the one that had an impact over the most people, and yet by the end it was stained by his other wrongdoings.
Even though everything else about the Philbert saga is terrible, I think it was nice that Bojack immediately agreed to do the show when he found out PC forged his signature
Do you mean Best Thing That Ever Happened? I can’t stand him in this episode. Sure, PC messed up and she’s in no way the moral high ground of the series but he was a total dick to her. And she ended up saying all those lovely things about him when he fired her after her spending 20 years putting out his fires
Letting people move on from him . It’s subtle but quite a few times you can tell he wants to hold onto people but he knows that they’re better off without him . It’s not like he says out loud “ just go , your better off “ but it’s his lack of action to make them stay . I think to most people it just looks like he can’t be bothered but to me at least I think he’s purposely just letting them go because he knows it’s best for them even if it hurts him
I love that most of the instances (telling his mom their in Michigan, setting up Todd and Maude, and even the crossover scene) they’re all absolutely 0 effort cases. All he says to Maude is “hey look at this app maybe” and bam, he solves any problems Todd may have. Or one Tiny lie to his mom while she’s on her deathbed more or less
That's a good point I didn't really notice. But he did do some bigger stuff, like saving the baby seahorse or finding Hollyhock's biological mom for her both of which were definitely not low effort.
I’d argue those were not good things he did tbh. He helped hollyhock because he made himself feel bad for lying. Same with the doll, he made his bed so he had to lay in it
I’m disagreeing with your definition of “goes out of his way” he was already buying coffee from Maude. If he heard her as he was passing, then suggested the app then I’d agree he went out of his way. Equal grounds with the situation with his mom. Again with the crossover w PB, PB straight up brought Bojack to the “set”. He led the horse to water AND made him drink
I think the point of Bojack is that he's not bad, and he's not good. He just is. Sometimes he does good stuff, and sometimes he does bad stuff. He's just like everyone else. Most people think they are good, and they aren't. They just are. Sometimes they do good stuff, and sometimes they do bad stuff. The goal in life is to try to do more good stuff, and less bad stuff.
When he lies to Beatrice, tells her she's in Michigan with her family. Eating ice cream. Bojack didn't owe her anything, but he tried to be kind. In that moment. It was beautiful.
I loved what he did but I hated that moment because I know I'm going to be in his position in the future
My grandmother has bad dementia. It's been several years since she remembered anyone and those scenes are exactly what it's like. We don't tell her what happened to my grandfather or alcoholic uncle. But telling her she has grandkids/great-grandkids over and over again gives her some joy and peace, even if it's ephemeral.
I sob every time
This scene made me cry like a bitch
that scene fucks me up not only because of his act of kindness, but his mothers as well. when people have dementia, usually soon before they die from it, they have lucidity the way she did. i dont know if they can be 'put back in the past' the way she was, but thats not the important part. she wasnt allowed to eat ice cream as a kid. shes likely never had it. that wouldnt be a memory Bojack would be able to reinstate into her mind without planting the seeds prior to that one moment. she let him believe that he comforted her, and i think it says a lot that she did that in a moment he would never know the truth behind.
Setting todd up wih maude
He never even tried to take credit for it.
Finding hollyhocks mom. He even created a facebook for it, and he didnt care if he got the credit or not
Yes this. I think at that point, he’d never see Hollyhock again for all he knew.
Rescuing Todd from the Giggleship
You can’t just screw everything up and then take a boat out into the ocean to save your best friend, or solve a mystery, and fly to Kansas. You need to do it every day.. which is so hard.
it gets easier
Comforting Hollyhock about the little voice in your head going away even if it's not true
The baby seahorse
yeah, he dives into a deadly factory machine to save him! he risked his life for that baby seahorse
Woah, GADDAMN I HAVE A DIRTY MIND.
indeed
ha had checked sarah lynn into the therapy place
Accepting that he indeed is accountable for his actions. The way in the last episode he just accepts that PC will never work with him and Diane will never talk to him ever again, he will never have the same relationship with Todd, and he will never be able to mend his relationship with Hollyhock. He may have gone to prison for trespassing but having the power taken away from him that cannot be bojack, and just do things without consequences. I know he did other nice things, but maybe this was the best thing he did for himself.
I want this answer printed out and framed on my wall YES YES YES
Why am i crying? 🥲
Donating the horsin' around royalties to an orphanage
You mean the horse-phanage
Jerb
they’re not calling it that. that’s stupid
Yeah But it was unintentional
cleaning diane’s room when she was depressed
Giving PB his crossover episode.
The baby seahorse
Finding Hollyhawks mom
Letting Todd live at his place for so long
[удалено]
He should not kiss bojacks feet everyday. He helped tod but he also never allowedd him the guest bedroom or any personal space. He never send tod away and avtivally sabotaged Tod who was trying to make something of himself and move out. Shure what Bojack did was nice, but not that nice since he was just using tod to silence the loneliness
In a way it was probably fucked up. He just wanted a friend or at least a person to stick around and abuse. In a way, it was actually selfish.
He saved Todd from the improv ship that was awesome. And told him how he remembered when they first met. A lot of the hollyhock stuff was genuinely good too, I would say.
Getting radiohead
Imean he once did *a very famous tv show*
I find that so sad, because that show probably was the best thing he did, or at least the one that had an impact over the most people, and yet by the end it was stained by his other wrongdoings.
Even though everything else about the Philbert saga is terrible, I think it was nice that Bojack immediately agreed to do the show when he found out PC forged his signature
trying to bring that girl back to rehab when they escaped.
Was very understanding and warm to Todd when he came out as asexual. Didn’t do it for anything other than to be supportive and a good friend.
When he tells PB that he does love her, that episode is so good, the whole dialogue is amazing edit: PC not PB
Woah I don’t remember when he told Mr Peanutbutter he loved him lol
yeah i’m dumb I ment PC
Do you mean Best Thing That Ever Happened? I can’t stand him in this episode. Sure, PC messed up and she’s in no way the moral high ground of the series but he was a total dick to her. And she ended up saying all those lovely things about him when he fired her after her spending 20 years putting out his fires
HUH??
Probably meant PC
Letting people move on from him . It’s subtle but quite a few times you can tell he wants to hold onto people but he knows that they’re better off without him . It’s not like he says out loud “ just go , your better off “ but it’s his lack of action to make them stay . I think to most people it just looks like he can’t be bothered but to me at least I think he’s purposely just letting them go because he knows it’s best for them even if it hurts him
His Mother’s eulogy.
Waiting in all those lines in LA and San Francisco to find out who Hollyhock’s mom was
The Monologue. Even though it was at a wrong funeral, he let his heart out, warts and all.
I love that most of the instances (telling his mom their in Michigan, setting up Todd and Maude, and even the crossover scene) they’re all absolutely 0 effort cases. All he says to Maude is “hey look at this app maybe” and bam, he solves any problems Todd may have. Or one Tiny lie to his mom while she’s on her deathbed more or less
That's a good point I didn't really notice. But he did do some bigger stuff, like saving the baby seahorse or finding Hollyhock's biological mom for her both of which were definitely not low effort.
I’d argue those were not good things he did tbh. He helped hollyhock because he made himself feel bad for lying. Same with the doll, he made his bed so he had to lay in it
Does that matter? They were still good things to do, even if he didn’t have the most pure reasons. Like Diane says, you are what you do.
He goes out of his way to do both things… I wouldn’t say it was no effort. He still chose to do them.
I’m disagreeing with your definition of “goes out of his way” he was already buying coffee from Maude. If he heard her as he was passing, then suggested the app then I’d agree he went out of his way. Equal grounds with the situation with his mom. Again with the crossover w PB, PB straight up brought Bojack to the “set”. He led the horse to water AND made him drink
Probably when he finds Hollyhock’s mom
I think the point of Bojack is that he's not bad, and he's not good. He just is. Sometimes he does good stuff, and sometimes he does bad stuff. He's just like everyone else. Most people think they are good, and they aren't. They just are. Sometimes they do good stuff, and sometimes they do bad stuff. The goal in life is to try to do more good stuff, and less bad stuff.
Saving the fly in Season 4 from drowning, even after the latter almost killed the former.
Almost dying.
By accident or on purpose?
when he remembered the hash browns
And he turned himself into a pickle, funniest shit I've ever seen!