By - sweet_chick283
Owning a home outright in many nations
products without a monthly subscription
I’m waiting for the time in the future when companies’ product differentiators become “no subscription needed!”
Fucking Microsoft office has become the most ridiculous example recently
That and the HP printer ink b.s.
Right? I just want to edit a PFD. I'd gladly pay you $150 for the program. I don't need to pay $90 dollars a year for the next 10 years.
You will own nothing, and you will be happy
Retirement strategy built-in to your job.
Imagine getting a good paying job and knowing you were going to do that job for 30 years, make enough to buy a home, raise a family, and then retire with enough money to pass down to your kids.
Jesus Christ that sounds like a fairytale fantasy.
"An apartment on relatively crime free area and only slightly dented Huyndai sonata"
-moderate life goals
Laughs in Australian Super
Law requires Australian employers pay 10.5% on-top of our wages that goes to a retirement fund with compound interest. This is all work, including casual, so your average teenager already has started saving for retirement.
I assumed for some reason that this was a typical Western thing and that the UK & Canada also had it! Apparently not!
I live in a big 3 auto city in Canada. Finding a job with a pension is very rare here. Most employers do registered retirement savings plan matching, which is okay but most people aren't educated to understand why taking advantage of it is beneficial. It's optional so you have to make that choice.
I actually found a unicorn job that has a pension and RRSP matching up to 10% of my weekly pay. No union so no dues to pay and they treat us really well. Great vacation and pto, higher range of pay for the area. Really hard to get into though.
Also Canadian, my plan is to die. Stats say most people get cancer and if that’s true with my lifestyle I definitely will and we now have medically assisted suicide. My actual plan is to just die when I can’t work or take care of myself.
Activities! Carnivals, parks, festivals, ect. Last time I went to a carnival it was $40 per person, more if you bought the ticket the day of. Renfaire here is over $60 for the entry fee. They were never cheap but they were affordable ways to interact with your local community and spend time with family/friends. Now there isn’t really much you can do without a steep entry fee..
Same for music concerts. In the 70-80’s, we could buy concert tickets with our minimum wage jobs.
Forget going to huge bands. Lots of smaller artists charging $20 entry at bars
The "Has Been Tour" used to be a great thing. I saw Kansas, Steppenwolf, George Thorogood, Cheap Trick, and others at small venues for $15. Then a House Of Blues opened and tickets jumped to $50 a pop for the same bands.
You can't afford a $20 lawn ticket?
Wait, convenience charge. $25 lawn ticket.
Ah, processing fee, make that $35.
Oh, yeah, tax, round that up to $40.
Did I say $40? I meant $45 because I'm Ticketmaster , now go stand in a field and try not to die.
last time I looked at cheap seats it was close to a hundred bucks a pop for the worst seats in the house. Two tickets, plus parking, a couple of drinks, dinner before the show and you're at $350-400 for a single concert. Skipping booze and going cheap on dinner still puts you at close to $300. fucking hell.
Not to mention the cost of the food once you are inside. It's insane.
One of my coworkers went to the state fair and said it was $60 for a burger, a hot dog and some fries.
Went out for Fourth of July this year, first holiday I have taken my daughter out to, she is almost 18 months. For the mini pizza, icees, and a cup of fruit, it was $40+. Add on $10 per person for the bounce houses, which my daughter hated, btw. Shit is expensive.
We went to our county fair this summer and paid over $30 for 3 small puffy tacos.
This so much. My kids wanted to go the pumpkin patch this year and everywhere is charging $30 per person to get in(this includes hay ride, corn pit, maze, bounce pillow and playground which are all overcrowded and not even that great). We are a family of 4 so that’s $120 min to get in.On top of that we would have to buy pumpkins and would most likely get some food which would be another $50+. Also some things are extra above the ticket price(like to feed the animals, ride the train and carousel which is another $10 per person). It’s ridiculous and my youngest is 3 so he be done with it after like a hour so not worth it to spend over $200. 🤦♀️Guess I’ll buy pumpkins from Walmart this year and skip the patch because that will cost me around $10 for 1 large pumpkins!
Additionally, people say kids don't go out and do things outside like they used to. Staples like the neighborhood carnival either no longer exist or are super expensive.
Omg yeah an amusement park I wanted to go to had $85 tickets not including parking/food/etc for the lowest tier?!?
I went to Disney World a decade ago as a 20 something year old and it was affordable. Now we're looking at taking our kids and it's something we have to seriously budget for even though we earn significantly more than we did in our 20s.
We looked into going recently. It would be thousands of dollars for our family. There is no way we can go
A single-income household that owns a home, a car, and can go on yearly family vacations
Basically The Simpsons
This sums it up pretty well, Frank Grimes is like a millenial
"I LIVE ABOVE A BOWLING ALLEY AND BELOW ANOTHER BOWLING ALLEY."
The best part is that is Homer’s dream living space
This episode was actually written by a conservative guest writer, where Grimes is supposed to be in the right. Grime's problem is he blamed Homer for his problems instead of ya know, his boss and the system that kept him poor. He's another crab in a bucket of crabs.
rewatching this episode, it unintentionally aged too well. The original was just a meta episode poking fun at the ridiculousness of everything Homer accomplished as a normal guy. Now, people see it as a Boomer born in the right time while the millennial gets shafted.
You were in outerspace??
Youve never been?
At least Homer lucked out into a job at the power plant, where he's apparently paid well (while being wildly incompetent). On the other hand *Married...With Children* had Al Bundy being able to afford the same lifestyle on a single income working at a shoe store at the mall.🤔
He didn’t luck into his job he was a perfect fit. Burns wanted a safety inspector who would never come to him with any sort of expensive maintenance requirements or problems. Homer is so “incompetent” that it makes him perfect in Burns eyes.
Good point, Mr. Burns doesn't have much use for safety regulations~
>Where should we dump this batch? The playground?
>Noo, all those bald children are arousing suspicion. To the park!
one should create an updated version of the intro sequence. with marge working at the power plant as well, driving home with public transport or stuck in traffic jams to get to their tiny ass flat
It’s depressing to see some of the top answers being “Privacy” “Housing” and “Water.”
Wait until you hear about the costs of propagating the species.
But it also costs money not to.
It's like when Ticketmaster charges a shipping fee or you can print at home and pay a convenience fee. Like damn, just bake that into the price and remove those fees then.
Meals on flights
Luggage on flights.
Now your ticket incudes just the seat your ass occupies. Luggage? That’s extra.
>Now your ticket incudes just the seat
and you don't even get to choose the seat anymore unless you pay an extra fee.
Just flew to Europe and experienced a Ryan Air flight. That was some Wild West Shit. Pay to play 100%
I just flew to another country for a day trip for less than £20. It cost me more to get to and from the airport than to get from the UK to Denmark and back.
Sure it's pay to play, but goddamn can it be cheap when you're willing to not pay.
Southpark did an episode on this. Everyone was posting their thoughts online but were also complaining about their lack of privacy
...and we did it to ourselves. I'm not even talking about the patriot act or what governments do.
In the 90s CCTV was rare. Government offices used paper for most things. Computers were used for the bigger stuff in the back office, mainly for law enforcement related purposes. Those of us who used the internet had to bend over backwards to put pictures on it. If you wanted to take dirty pictures you needed to learn how to develop your own film or use a polaroid.
As the 90s turned to the 00s the desire to put photos on the internet rose, and the idea of not using film appealed to certain nerds, so digital cameras rapidly proliferated. With that came digital CCTV systems. Then social media hit and everyone wanted to update everyone on their entire lives all the time, uploading photos constantly, tagging people in locations, sharing every detail of their lives. So technology followed use and cameras appeared in phones, then phones turned into social media platforms themselves and now we're in a state where *almost everyone on earth* is carrying what the NSA would have considered a *sophisticated surveillance device* on their person at *all times*.
I blame geocities.
>I blame geocities.
I never fucking thought about that, [but you're right.](https://www.wired.com/1998/08/feds-slam-geocities-on-privacy/)
Once people found out they could become millionaires posting pictures and videos online...
But everyone said if you were against the patriot act your were a traitor.
Have a product that lasts MANY years. Not for a lack of resources of the great companies , but it is much more profitable to make a product that lasts a few years and make people go after another product of yours.
My parents still use (pretty often) the same rice cooker they got as a wedding gift 36 years ago.
I got one from Walmart last month and it quit working on the second use.
Get a cheaper rice cooker, the super cheap ones are so mechanically simple that they should last forever
The more you design something the more can go wrong.
Coffee maker with programmable timer, multiple brew settings, and auto-off warming pad: five years, tops.
Coffee maker with on-off switch: will outlive you.
That simple coffee maker when you question its longevity: "I will brew your ashes one day, you pathetic human waste"
That coffee maker has some vengeance percolating.
Our furnace people say to avoid high-efficiency furnaces, because they’re more expensive to repair and don’t last. I get my 20 year old furnace serviced yearly, and it works flawlessly and consistently, which is important as I’m in a colder climate.
Depending on where you live, you could be paying substantially more for fuel with a 20 year old furnace.
If you live in a cold climate you could be saving over $500 per year (depending on house size, how old and well insulated etc).
It was $14 haha maybe I’ll find a gem at a yard sale
Got my rice cooker for $10 approximately 12 years ago, and it’s still going strong!
Truth! I bought my rice cooker for less than $10 at a Walgreens and it will probably out live me. All it does is steam, but it does it really well.
Have to buy em from the Asian super market. I've had mine for 20 years
Zojirushi or tiger rice cookers ftw
Yup. Designed obsolescence makes me sick.
Having a reachable, reliable doctor that doesn't make you feel like you're wasting their time.
Healthcare is a joke (interventional rad tech here) and I sometimes question why I'm a part of it
Because we need some good people on the inside
For real dude , doctors be looking miserable and hating their jobs
Directly due to the corporate practice of medicine. Doctors aren't in charge of healthcare, they are now merely employees who get told how to do their jobs by CEOs and other business-types and they hate it. But it's either be a "team player" or get fired and replaced.
Full product softwares and games.
Wild how quickly we went from buying finished products in boxes with instructions to digital purchases of half a game with 10GB day-one patches and the option to buy the rest or wait a year for the GOTY edition.
And don't get me started on pre-order exclusive contents!
Ever since I heard of manufactured scarcity, it tends to be how I see things like this when they come up. Literally just creating a scarcity of an item in which there is no scarcity to be found, solely so people buy in sooner and with more money.
I lose all interest when I see it now.
In America, we used to have starter homes. A home so cheap a single young person's salary could move him in.
All the starter homes in my area have been flipped adding second stories on top.
Not sure why starter homes aren’t really a thing anymore.
The land is the cost. The pile of wood on top is just an accessory.
People will see a shitty house in Palo Alto, CA for $2 million and scream & shout how small and old it is. I tell them you’re not paying for the house, you’re paying for the land.
They recently built some starter homes near me that are starting in the upper $900k range. Meanwhile my parents bought our house for $318k in 1994, or $635k with inflation. This is despite out house being larger, on a larger lot, and in a better location in a cul de sac vs on a busy street.
I just did the math and.. did it again… it would take 30 years for me to afford a million dollar home on the salary I currently have. Which is definitely above minimum wage in my area. After taxes. Not factoring in any expenses. By then I’d be close to “retirement” …
*does the math again, softly weeping*
Edit: yes I know what a mortgage is and that 30 years is normal. My point is $900,000 for a *”starter home”* is ridiculous.
I've actually got some good insight as to why this has become so much worse over the past few years, but first, I'd like to talk about raid shadow legends
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Basic, REAL wood furniture.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the simplicity of IKEA, I was just there on Sunday and had a ball, but fuck me it seems the whole world is particle board now -even high end crap from West Elm.
I am repeating as I posted this above but it's important: check out the secondary market. Estate sales are loaded with actual wood furniture. Watch Craigslist and wherever you are look for estate sales, moving sales, divorce sales etc. Even yard sales.
Better have a truck and physically strong friends who won’t ruin their backs and sue you. I can’t even move my solid wood, thrift store coffee table.
It’s perfect for all the extra things my TV wants connected.
8 hours of sleep, at least for me.
Edit: Id like to add, I'm not a parent, I'm just fucking miserable.
I can't go through life without 9 hours. This isn't a choice.
Same, and I hate it. Everyone says "must be nice to sleep that long!" but it's not. What I wouldn't give to be fully functional on 7 hours or less.
In the UK, heating our homes for the winter. Energy prices have become unaffordable.
Definitely look into getting a heated electric blanket, someone did the math and those and hot water bottles are a cheaper option than heating your house more. Not ideal but will help keep you from freezing to death due to lack of money.
These are great, but cold houses will still get damp and moldy, while you sit underneath your heated blanket. Obviously better than freezing to death, though.
Being able to pay living expenses and have money left over
Trucks. When I was growing up trucks were dependable, barebones vehicles driven by contractors, landscapers, and farmers. They had minimal options, were used mostly for hauling stuff and were very uncomfortable if you were a passenger. Now, they come with heated seats, plush interiors, and glossy paint jobs and cost a fortune. In a generation, they went from affordable working man transports to massive luxury vehicles for suburban dads.
Owning a home
Yeah. In Germany you pay half a million euros for a house that isn't even ready to move into. You have to pay another 100,000€ or something to renovate it. Then you have to pay interest and in the end you pay around 1,000,000€ for a normal house, nothing special. That's crazy. I don't wanna be in debt and work until I'm 99. You can't even do it with a double income household anymore. I've heard more than once that it's mostly even more expensive than expected because the house turns out to be derelict. Not to mention that you have a big problem when one person becomes unemployed or is sick. My friend's grandpa bought SEVERAL houses when he was in his 20s and he was a craftsman. His wife didn't work. Wtf happened? Even two university graduates often can't buy houses anymore.
Of course it depends where you live in Germany but near any bigger city and especially in the west it's really hard.
Last week I would have said turning my heating on.
This week it's having a government that doesn't crash our currency and almost cause a pensions wipe-out within their first seven working days in power.
Who knows what next week will bring? Tune in for more hijinks from the self-styled party of economic competence.
Hello fellow Brit. Its scary that I managed to recognise our country from that description
At least we could afford to cough up £6 billion for ‘Er Maj’s funeral. That’s something.
THIS!!!! Funny how they couldn’t find any money for education or nhs services though…
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Watch an ad to watch the video, watch an ad because it’s a sponsored video, surprise - ad in the middle of the video, end video with a shoutout to sponsor.
Ad Blockers are still a thing though.
For now… looking at you chromium
It's pretty easy to switch to Firefox you can transfer bookmarks and passwords and most extensions have versions for both browsers.
Being able to put heating on
These comments are honestly saddening
Being able to spend $100 at the grocery store and leaving with a cart of food
Beef Jerky. I cant believe how fucking expensive this shit is nowadays.
For real, I used to be able to get those giant sheets from 711 as a kid for almost nothing. Now it costs so much.
Real wood furniture. This MDF and particle board shit is disgusting.
We recently bought a solid hardwood dining table and some chairs. You can just tell the quality difference - the table alone weighs almost 350 lbs and is solid as all hell. We are looking forward to passing it on to our kids.
Our previous table was one of those veneered BS tables made out of compressed sawdust. It was only a few years old but was already falling apart. $500 down the drain for that.
One of my favourite possessions is the oak dining table and chair set I inherited from my grandmother.
Our table is my husband's parents from when they first got married. It's survived 4 cross country moves and 2 overseas moves. My husband built our bed because he all the beds we looked at were just cheap crap. My son's bedroom set was my husband's when he was growing up. Solid wood furniture is amazing.
My night stand (soon to be passed to my son) is the one my Dad had growing up. It is literally 60 years old and looks brand new aside from some dents.
We also have an antique cedar chest from 3 generations ago. In really good shape, but the finish (still original) is starting to wear off a bit.
Really cool part is the house we are in was built by my Grandfather, so both of these pieces of furniture have moved around across the country several times and are now back home where they belong :)
Part of me thinks that has somewhat to do with consumerism. People used to buy furniture as an investment and it was meant to last them literally the rest of their lives instead of being thrown out when the next trend comes along. So the market for expensive heirloom type furniture has somewhat gone down. Also, people used to make their own furniture or gift furniture as wedding gifts. I think this partially also has to do with the increase of cohabitation before marriage, a lot of people don’t gift furniture because couples have already been living together and have purchased those things before the wedding. Definitely interesting to think about!
I think this is one of fake memories. Fine solid wood furniture with traditional joinery was always beyond the reach of the middle class.
In fact, prior to the 1900s (maybe into the the 1900s) "Real" furniture wasn't just a luxury, it was a store of wealth like true silverware, jewelry, or art. Lower class but rich women (think successful prostitute, actress, dancer, etc...) would often buy furniture because they weren't allowed to buy real-estate or stock.
Frankly, I remember my mom talking about how great the furniture in her parents house was. But when I checked it out, it was still made with plywood. The more I looked, the more I realized this was common in middle class homes. The plywood stuff is certainly better than our big box practicable board crap today, but it's a far cry from an antique with value.
A videogame releasing as a complete product
Instead of it being a monthly subscription. Yep.
Subscription fatigue is a real thing.
Just wait until self-driving cars hit full-market saturation. You wont' own a car, you'll own a subscription that gets you X hours of driving. Cheaper packages for carpooling. Owning a car (that doesn't Uber itself around while you work) will be a luxury.
Lobster used to be poor mans food. In her childhood my mother talked to an old man who had been poor in his youth. He told her how he would wait until the middle of the night to go throw his lobster shells into the sea, so that no one would know he had to resort to eating lobster.
it boils down to lobster meat turning rancid fast if not stored properly. once people learned how to keep lobsters fresh people were like damn this shits good
Oysters, too. I love both!
Also, it's way less good without butter. And butter used to be a luxury.
If you think about it, lobsters are like huge sea cockroaches.
I do think about it.
Wow TIL! I never would have guessed this! I wish it was still the poor man’s food instead of having to pay $25+ for a good lobster roll.
you also used to not be able to transport it very far which was the biggest factor
I spend far more on hay than I do on gas.
Can't tell if sarcasm or legit, please help...
Legit. Just bought 700 bales to get through winter, at $10/bale.
You’re expensive to feed.
$10/bale?? What kind of grass? Orchard?
I am paying $65/round bale (approx. 800lbs) for orchard/fescue blend. He sells 50lbs squares for $7.50 or $8
It’s actually truer than you can imagine. I grew up on a ranch, right during the phase where the cost of horses and ATVs flipped, making the luxury a utility and vice versa. It’s fascinating to me.
Food. Literally just food. Shits getting expensive and hoarders take it all and let it go bad
I spent like $14 at McDonald's for like one combo and was like "wait, when tf did that happen?"
No seriously, about a week ago I decided to stop by McDonald's after my uni classes cause I was exhausted and didn't have time to cook.
One meal ended up being like $12 or $14. Like fast food used to be cheap AND fast, that was the whole point.
Having a place to live.
Dueling someone to the death without capital punishment :(((
Affordable Housing :/
No shit. After covid, the apartment owners increased and continue to increase rents obscenely.
College tuition prices are a lot higher today.
That's a excellent and depressing observation
It's at the core of the shift in how humans live their lives. Almost every waking moment of our day is being mediated by this or that institution, we're under constant surveillance. We experience the world via screens and willingly share our thoughts, movements, buying habits, finances, etc with faceless and unaccountable corporations and government institutions that track, collect and sell our lives as data.
So yeah, unmediated time, which used to be the default state of being human, is now a luxury.
Having a home to live. In 2 years I maybe become homeless
Peace and quiet.
I've read lobster was poor person's food and now a luxury.
Diamonds and association with rarity and high value is a cultural thing constructed by the industry.
Water in SoCal. Some people still don't realize it and sadly keep watering their lawns while simultaneously complaining about their water bills.
I don't understand why anyone keeps a lawn. Constant maintenance, even before you get into the issues with monocultures, introduced species, land wastage, water wastage, fertilizer runoff, etc. Why not pull it up and plant some nice soft, hardy clover or indigenous groundcover?
\*Laughs in British\*
I have to admit, it was only a few years ago when I was listening to a podcast that I found out that in America you guys have to water your lawns. Here in Britain I was like "Who the fuck waters their lawn?". We also don't fertilise them, so the downsides to having a lawn are much less here than in the US.
Having a moment of happiness and hope for the future.
Leg room on a plane
Water. Oops, sorry, I thought it was 2024.
Having a roof over your head and affording food without having a roommate or burning yourself out with three jobs
Horseback riding I think
Going on a road trip. Not going anywhere precise, just enjoy a ride in your car.
Capsicum has gone from $7 to $20 per kg where I live. We do not buy it any more.
24 hour grocery stores
Babies. Maternity leave.
Oysters! In medieval times food for the common man,now food for the rich!
Things built to last. Back in the day everything made was built to last. It was cheap too. Then people found plastic...
Or if it wasn't cheap, it was because you could pass it down to your grandkids grandkids.
Stay at home spouse/partner.
The ability to unplug from work on off hours.
Gas in Europe. Yeah maybe not a "luxury", but gas prices have reached levels never seen before. For example, my father owns a restaurant and his bills are three times more expensive than last year.
If you live in the US, healthcare and medication
Not being expected to be instantly available 24/7.
Now all the advice is to basically give the big corporations all of your money and hope to live off the dividends of the money they make.
Eating a healthy meal every night.
Sleeping when you want.
people don't notice that it was very normal to own horses in the 1900s, but now you have to be like a rich guy to have one
Going down to the corner for a cup of coffee. Used to be diners and coffee houses would sell coffee dirt cheap with free refills to get customers in the door. Then Starbucks came along - $7 for a cup of coffee and no free refills.
Diner coffee may be dirt cheap but it often tastes like dirt too.
Starbucks still sucks, though. Support your local coffee shop.