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What would happen if over half of the US moved into 1 state so they could get 270 electoral votes and disenfranchise all other voters in a presidential election?

What would happen if over half of the US moved into 1 state so they could get 270 electoral votes and disenfranchise all other voters in a presidential election?

AngelFuel

If half the US moved into one state to vote they’d only get that states electoral votes therefore there’d be no way they could win


mypostsarentgood

Gerrymander that


[deleted]

That state would have immigration for sure.


Rick-burp-Sanchez

The rich would still run everything under the pretense that democracy actually exists in this country


Tink2013

The state would become unlivable, cities would crumble and burn and they wouldnt be able to vote because of the lack of social services.


mypostsarentgood

Uh, what?


Tink2013

California has 39.37 million people. Its losing population because of pollution, taxes, corruption, shit in the streets, massive homeless problem and a house market gone crazy. It currently has only 55 electoral votes. To get to 270 electoral votes that one state would have to have 4x as many people as California has now.


Headlies

They'd have to do it right before a census.


mypostsarentgood

Yep 2029. We're forced to have "fair" elections through 2028 no matter what we do.


Headlies

What makes you put "fair" in quotes?


mypostsarentgood

"Fair" in that the winner of the popular vote doesn't necessarily win the presidency.


Headlies

Why should the popular vote determine the presidency if that's not how the system is set up?


Chairchucker

It's a bad system.


Headlies

Why? The point is to make avenues of power difficult to navigate and control. It's like complaining that Representatives aren't voted on statewide. Senators used to be appointed by state legislatures, I'd say that was arguably *better* than the statewide vote used now.


Chairchucker

Votes should belong to people, not land.


Headlies

Vote allocation for House Representatives is based on population. What are you even complaining about?


Chairchucker

Well kinda but not quite. Wyoming has a population of 581,075, and 3 electoral college votes, which ends up with one electoral college vote per 193,692 people. California has a population of 39,613,493, and 55 electoral college votes, which ends up with one electoral college vote per 720,245 people. A Wyoming resident's vote is worth more than 3 times as much as a California resident's vote.


Cordero_Biggs

ALL the people not just the people who congregate in the largest groups. Thats why thexaystem is set up as it is. History much?


Chairchucker

'The people who congregate in the largest groups' is a clever way to reframe the majority and pretend that it's more fair for people who live in less dense areas to have their votes carry more weight.


Chairchucker

Overpopulation. Also this doesn't really make sense as a thing to do. Like, are the voters moving specifically for the purpose of getting more electoral votes? If so, are all of them actually planning to vote the same, or just a slight majority? Explain the logistics of this, please.


mypostsarentgood

Democracy falls in the US after several secretaries of state throw out valid election results in 2028. Seeing the US is in a state of collapse, 100 million democrats move to CA to combat a rigged system. They get enough population to determine the winner of the electoral college, so they conduct an election that determines the president for everyone.


Chairchucker

If you can get 100 million people to coordinate a move to one state, I feel like you can get 100 million people to vote.


Sudden-Juggernaut734

Some bad shit


xyanon36

People would finally realize that the electoral college which was designed to preserve slavery has no place in the 21st century and we would finally elect the President by popular vote? Hopefully...