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What is something that used to be considered safe/okay but now we know is harmful?

What is something that used to be considered safe/okay but now we know is harmful?

ThrowThisTeaAway

Single entry/exit points on large buildings. IIRC the creator of push bar doors was a survivor of a child stampede that killed over a hundred kids.


OlmecDonald

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Hall_disaster


12vElectronics

I have never heard of this incident. Wow.


katiej1989x

And also don't forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire


SnakeBaconator

Outside of the single point of entry, I thought that they locked the workers inside during shifts?


CedarWolf

If you want to talk about people crush around a single point of entry, don't forget the [Station Nightclub fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire). What's sad there is that there *were* multiple exits, and some people didn't go out the back because either they didn't know it was there or because it was a staff and band members only exit.


mohammedibnakar

There's a pretty harrowing video that shows the fire take place. At one point in the video you can see an entire mass of people just jammed in a doorway, unable to move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bknYdprA9ug


omild

What’s even worse is at one point in the video someone runs out of that door engulfed in flames. It’s a blink and you’ll miss it moment and truly horrific to see.


PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_

That one is the worst because there is a video of the door. It's a horrible experience to watch it and the most convincing argument for the importance of fire safety. It also shows how quick time goes between the moment the fire is noticeable and the complete disaster.


gazongagizmo

Don't know if you folks outside of Germany had heard about it, or how often since it happend it came up again, but the last Loveparade (2010) ended in a horrific stampede catastrophe, which has since resulted in some major overhaul of big event regulations. [Wiki (en) link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade_disaster) [7min explanation video in English](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y73-7lFBNE) 30min splitscreen compilation (NSFL) [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUDxURy-Qw)


NoodleIsAShark

Holy shit, a survivor quoted “Suddenly I felt that I was treading upon someone lying on the stairs and I cried in horror to those behind "Keep back, keep back! There's someone down." It was no use, I passed slowly over and onwards with the mass and before long I passed over others without emotion.”


FistedTate

Additionally, if you approach a door that's not clear on whether it's push it pull, it *should* almost always open towards the outside. This allows people to flow out quickly. What can happen if it opens inward is a mad rush to get out and the people at the door are pushed against it and can't open it.


LonleyArtsClub

They also weren't widely implemented in the US till [The Iroquois Theatre disaster](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloAvh5qLX4) where 600+ people died twenty years later.


Yarnprincess614

And then you have the [Italian Hall Disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Hall_disaster) aka the reason why you don't say "fire" in a crowded theater.


wisdomdagger

lead paint


thriveRN

Used to be a childhood lead exposure nurse (probably the coolest job title I’ve had tbh) and I had a client who was letting her grandchild eat lead paint chips in her garden after remodeling and had no idea why she had high levels of lead in her system. Also using this as a PSA that lead exposure can be asymptomatic at lower levels. It is higher levels over prolonged exposure that lead to neurological and other systemic toxicity. So, if there are any occupational hazards you or your children come across (lead is prolific in the environment), please ask your doctor for a blood lead level! Pregnant women and infants are at especially high risk because of non-food objects young children put in their mouth that may contain lead. Lead can also be absorbed transplacentally. Good nutrition can help offset the effects of lead exposure because vital minerals/vitamins such as iron, calcium, and vitamin C can help offset lead-based anemia. Lead leeches calcium from the bloodstream and iron helps offset lead absorption onto hemoglobin molecules. Edit: can’t spell. Edit 2: oh wow thanks for the award kind redditor! Although I’m no longer doing this work I’m always happy to share what I learned and found it so fulfilling. I’m doing COVID outbreak surveillance now/and that’s pretty cool too! I love public health as there’s so many different avenues. Edit 3: thanks for all your questions guys but I don’t think I can answer anymore. My kitty is requiring round the clock nursing care at home and I’m just mentally spent.


Millennial_Paleocon

Lead or no lead, why would someone let their grandchild eat paint chips?!


thriveRN

Honestly a few of the cases I had baffled me but none as much as this one. She was letting this toddler run around and play in the dirt where they had scraped lead paint chips off the house from remodeling


HumanityIsACesspool

Adding on to that, arsenic in green dye.


Mt838373

My mother talks about how when she was in highschool in the 1970s they would roll mercury around in their hands during science class with no gloves on.


Vretzel

Metalic mercury is quite alright though, she maybe could have had some trouble if she had a cut or tried eating it, if it were organic mercury she'd be super dead tho Also by some trouble with metalic I mean almost none actually


TRKrexel

That lady's story with the dimethyl mercury is fucking terrifying...


Tlaloc_Temporal

Someone once suggested using methyl mercury in rocket engines to increase thrust, in the first stage. The ones that put a few hundred tons of exhaust into low atmosphere. The chemists laughed, then hung up *promptly.*


Dranzell

What about planetary mercury? I'd assume that would be pretty bad as well.


24KaratMinshew

Lead and Asbestos- what great products!!! Let’s put them in / on everything!!


Jake_Thador

The modern asbestos is silica. Wear masks construction guys, please.


darrellbear

The radiator pipes in my elementary school classrooms were clad in asbestos. We used to pick it off the pipes and blow it around, white and fluffy, kinda like feathers.


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DecisiveEmu_Victory

Tetraethyl lead is a really effective anti-knock agent! It's so effective that aviation gasoline still uses it. Shame about the whole 'giving everyone lead poisoning' thing.


Cheeseish

But it tastes so good!


LeMuffinButton

Stop eating paint, Charlie


Omniwing

All of the snow in 'The Wizard of Oz' was abestos. They used to sell it for your own Christmas tree at home too, you'd just spray it out of a can.


BitsAndBobs304

also they killed one guy who played tinman with the lead paint =(


wzl46

Solid metal dashbaords in vehicles without seatbelts. A friend of mine in the Army had a vintage car from the 1950s before seat belts were mandatory equipment. He was a reckless driver who liked to speed and weave in and out of traffic on the interstate. I only rode with him once.


Iwoulddiefcftbatk

My grandpa's brother was killed in a car accident in the early 50's while in a car from the 40's. It made the paper and there were pictures of the car afterwards. It was really really bad. I know people give new cars shit about "being made of plastic" and cars were more sturdy in the past. If you saw pictures of accidents from cars of that era, it's change your mind. That car was demolished; there was no safety features, impact zones, or making things not hurt the riders didn't exist.


alexander_wolf88

There is an excellent video on youutbe where they crash a 1959 bel-air into a 2009 malibu to show how much safety has improved. The dummy in the malibu hit the airbags while the dummy in the bel-air was crushed into the backseat.


Thewaltham

Old vehicles were often more *mechanically* durable, as in, one heck of a lot more low strung and simple with a lot less to go wrong and would survive minor bumps better (because naturally, no safety systems would kick in and instead of a crumple zone going smoosh requiring some expensive new bodywork at best you'd just have to hammer out a couple dents) but yeah. High speed collision it's gonna turn into an accordion. Energy of the impact just has nowhere to go.


HouseRenovations

Friends of mine were in a horrific car crash in 2001. The only thing that saved my friend (the driver) from being impaled on the steering column was the air bags and to a lesser extent the crumple zones. Had the accident happened in 1971 rather than 2001, I have no doubt he would have bled out at the scene (it was a head-on collision). While he was seriously injured (broken vertebrae, smashed heel, tons of lacerations on his face and hands), he was able to return to a normal life (more or less - he does have long term effects from his injuries) after about three months of recovery time, which was pretty amazing.


muskratio

My parents were in a head-on collision at highway speeds circa 1999. They were test-driving a minivan at the time, and a car full of drunk idiots pulled into their lane right in front of them going the opposite direction. They were barely hurt at all - my mom had some back issues for a couple months after and they were bruised, but that's it. They actually bought that model of minivan (Toyota Sienna) afterwards as a result of the first-hand experience in its safety.


ouchimus

Yep. Theres a video on YouTube of (i think) a 67 impala and a 2005 impala being smashed head-on (dont worry, its an IIHS test so no people involved) Let's just say the newer car won


EarHealthHelp1

It was a 1959 Chevy Bel Air VS a 2009 Chevy Malibu. The 2009 driver might have a few broken bones, 1959 driver would have a few that weren’t broken. https://youtu.be/C_r5UJrxcck


Atler32

Radiation makeup.


Transcribbla

Yes! Radiation toothpaste, make-up, hair spray, deodorant... even health tonics to drink. There wasn't anything good ole radium couldn't cure, with its magic glow.


Atler32

Yeah, I hate those stories, they're quite disturbing.


PaniqueAttaque

Nasty stuff. Back during, like, the ~~40's and 50's (IIRC)~~ 20's, the U.S. military and other institutions were producing watches with glow-in-the-dark dials painted on. The paint in question contained radium, which is radioactive enough that it can be harmful to humans. Now, at this point in time, radiation and its adverse effects on humans wasn't very well or very publicly understood, so there were basically no safety regulations involved with handling the radium-based paint. There also wasn't really any sort of automation in the watch-painting field, so these watches - thousands upon thousands upon thousands of them - were being painted hand-painted by a majority-female workforce... These women were being closely exposed to high volumes of radium for hours on end almost every day for months and years. Some of them - liking the glow-in-the-dark effect - even reportedly used the paint as lipstick or other forms of makeup so they could go home and show off to their husbands. Unsurprisingly, the eventual results were nothing short of gruesome - cancer diagnoses being the least severe consequences in many cases - and the case of the *radium girls* is part of how the public at large learned about the dangers of radioactive materials.


DJCorvid

This also lead to a great medical report of a person who used to paint radium onto watch dials, he would always slick the bristles between his lips like some painters do. The medical report read, "the patient presented no symptoms until his jaw fell off."


Atler32

Ö.Ö


PaniqueAttaque

If I remember correctly, he went to the dentist complaining of tooth pain. Dentist went to pull a tooth and wound up pulling the whole mandible. This guy's skin, muscle, fascia - everything - had been so damaged by radium that it was basically tenderized and falling off the bone. All it took was a little tug.


fantasyflyte

That poor guy, but also that poor dentist.


Atler32

OMG... Dang. Imagine being that guy... Or imagine the dentist's shock o.O


adorkablekitty

This is a bit of a confusion of cases: Eben Byers had no symptoms until his jaw fell off, but that was from drinking Radithor which was, you guessed it, friggin radium-infused water. The watch-dial painters were the Radium Girls, mentioned above.


chicagorpgnorth

This was touched on in The Poisoners Handbook and I was horrified. Really solidified my distrust of what is supposedly safe for us or put in products without our full knowledge. So many carcinogens!


major_calgar

This is why you can’t throw a stick in California without hitting a sign that says “there are chemicals in this area/product known to cause cancer and birth defects”


ManyDeliciousJuices

Even in the U.S. outside of California, the product labels are all over "This product is known to the state of California to cause..."


Lamiden

The worst of the exposure came from the practice of licking the brushes to give them a small point, inevitably leading to the workers ingesting the paint.


Atler32

The radiation stories from not so far back are really disturbing. Glad we know better know but figuring it out was very costly.


WhenTardigradesFly

heroin. it was originally sold as a cough medicine by bayer.


psycedelich

Bayer called it "heroisch", meaning heroic in German, because it was believed to have the same properties as morphine without the addictive side effects


SureWhyNot-Org

That reminds me, I used to confuse "Heroin" & "Heroine" all the time. Didn't come up much, so fixing it took a while.


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I remember in the past “non-addictive alternatives” were often created for drugs, which turned out to be just as addictive as the original.


SanchoMandoval

Not just in the past, sadly. OxyContin and similar opiods were pushed by big pharmaceutical companies in no small part with [claims that they weren't very addictive](https://alcoholstudies.rutgers.edu/the-four-sentence-letter-behind-the-rise-of-oxycontin/).


jaylk5150

Thanks for linking this article. Im a case manager at a methadone clinic and everyday I hear stories especially the older clients who were prescribed pain meds and ended up using heroin or fentenyal these days. Its so sad.


procrast1natrix

For a few years I would make a point of asking the overdose cases how they got started, and it's shocking how often it's an ankle fracture or some other acute injury that lead to prescription opioid.


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Literally was sold in mail order catalogs by Sears


DocHolidayiN

Along with hypodermic syringes. Those were the days-oh wait heroin bad.


Dano4600

It was also labeled a cure to morphine addiction...


EmptyReputation1903

fighting an addiction with another addiction


Dano4600

Technically the same addiction


Aminar14

Actually a really common strategy. A lot of people turn to Caffeine to avoid harder drugs.


Zerokamour

There was a time where Aspirin required a prescription but Heroin and Coke was available OTC


Shnoochieboochies

Sunbathing for long periods of time.


the_professional_owl

Also, your lips need sunscreen. My mom has basal cell cancer on her lip that keeps coming back. Luckily there’s a lot of lip products with SPF now


Shipwrecking_siren

Good tip thank you


staylifted024

Apparently my grandma used to slather herself in baby oil and sunbath for weeks at a time at my family’s cabin, which had an elevation of about 5,200 feet. She has gotten several cancerous spots removed since then, but is doing all right at the moment. She says she regrets it all the time, but she had no way of knowing what she was doing to her skin back then.


Nozomis_Honkers

My mom is apart of the generation that used oil to help cook themselves. The fact that she doesn’t have skin cancer is shocking.


Fluffy_Journalist761

It was baby oil. I remember buying "suntan oil" with an spf 4. You'd be made fun of for using that "high" of a protection. This was the 1980s.


Redqueenhypo

The 80s were the most fucked up time bc that’s when you’d be mocked for basically any good thing: safety, being smart, caring about things basically


who_says_poTAHto

And yet they still sell this - crazy.


midnitelittlefoot

while holding those foil reflectors to get even MORE sun


ancalagon73

I believe that is actually to get sun on parts of the face that can't get hit at the same time. Under the chin and whatnot. For an even tan.


Shipwrecking_siren

My mum still does this even thought my dad has had skin cancer TWICE. I used to spend all summer in a massive t shirt covered in suncream and she’d be in SPF2 coconut cooking spray. I will never understand her.


SouthernOptimism

Welp while they're wrinkled, you'll be having smooth skin. Sunscreen is part of my vanity.


Fixes_Computers

I had a client who had this very deep dark tan. Problem was, her skin resembled the wrinkles of an elephant. Her tanning made her apparent age decades older than she really was.


GambettoMio

It's addictive. My childhood friend had a mom who was ALWAYS outside tanning. Her skin was the color of mahogany. Over a couple years, her skin texture became horribly wrinkled. I'm probably the same age now as she was then, and I am constantly mistaken for being 10 years younger because I have no wrinkles at all, due to wearing sunscreen daily since I was age 12. When I lived overseas, people would tell me constantly that I needed to go tan at the beach. It's just the thing that has always been done in that beachy part of Europe, to be as dark as possible. I observed how the citizens went from beautiful young women into leathery 40 year olds, and decided I was fine wearing spf 60 and accepting being pale.


ArchAngelAzrael-808

The most recent girlfriend I had died of skin cancer, she was addicted to sunbathing, she used the sunlamps in the winter. She was only 52.


JohnOliverismysexgod

I'm sorry for your loss.


nakedonmygoat

And don't forget tanning booths! Some people got the idea that even though UV light from the sun could be harmful, you could still safely bake yourself in a UV oven.


livesquared

Cigarettes are full of feel good compound and grade A vitamins! 50 yrs later: ..uh, just kidding?


passwordsarehard_3

If you want to keep that baby weight down your going to need to maintain a pack a day.


Sethrial

“Makes babies smaller! This is a good thing that won’t have lasting repercussions on your child’s health, trust us.”


MrsPecan

Raisins for dogs. My vet was telling us that they used to be commonly used as a training treat years ago.


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13-Penguins

Grapes are poisonous for dogs and cats. There’s a myth about it that says that one of the Ben and Jerry’s guys made grape flavored icecream for a girl he liked. She gave some to her dog and it died. Which is why there’s no grape-flavored icecreams.


aehanken

Now I wanna try grape flavored ice cream :(


Fancy_alt_Center

Grape flavored ice cream or “grape flavor” flavored ice cream?


NewPointOfView

I love "grape flavor" aka purple


clipples18

Water, sugar, purple


Adastra1018

In case anyone's curious, the real reason there's no grape ice cream is because grapes have such a high water content that you tend to get ice chunks in the ice cream. Not a great texture for a cream based product. And since there's apparently not really a demand for it, the idea was kind of put to bed.


richwith9

I remember when no one used a seat belt in a car.


SlammedOptima

my grandma would advocate against it. Had a one in a million situation where not having a seatbelt saved someone, or at least thats the claim. So she claimed it was safer not to wear them.


TechyDad

Radiation. There used to be devices to measure children's feet. Basically, the children would put their shoes on, stick their feet into this machine, and it would blast their feet with radiation so that nervous parents could see the children's feet inside the shoes to be sure they fit. Congrats, the shoes fit, but now your child has a ton of other health concerns!


dustyrags

Yep, x-ray machines at the shoe store! My mom remembers using those as a kid.


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GuyFromAlomogordo

Except for us kids who used to intentionally stop by the shoe store so we could see the bones in our feet!


Ms_KnowItSome

Provided there is shielding on the device and only the feet were exposed, it's a pretty minor dose to an extremity. The kids most likely got a lot larger and meaningful dose to the head and neck from dental x-rays of the time. Workers around the devices would get constant dose, even with shielding, and that's where the cumulative effects of radiation damage really set in. There's a reason Xray technicians run behind a wall when they are doing imaging, that xray of your hand is meaningless to you but 30 xrays a day isn't meaningless to them.


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And there was this whole trend in the early 20th century of using radioactivity as a cure-all for various illnesses because the proponents claimed that it would heal the body's cells. Radioactive bath water, drinking water, and patent medicines were a few examples. And radioactive toothpastes were supposed to make teeth whiter. This is not the same as radiation therapy, which is used to destroy malignant cells.


IC--XC--NI--KA

Standing up in the front seat of your grandfather’s ‘58 thunderbird as a 6 year old and saying “Pawpaw, I bet you can’t go 100.” And him saying “Hang on buddy.” Then going for a snow cone.


lucky7hockeymom

Ok honestly as an adult I know how awful that is but it still sounds like an AMAZING memory with him.


NO_Cheeto_in_Chief

Smoking. My grandmother's Dr. prescribed smoking cigarettes. She was experiencing anxiety while she was pregnant with my mother. (1951)


soymilksoysauce

Yes, my mother also told me. In the '70s and '80s no one talked about the risks of cancer, they just portrayed smoking like something really cool that makes you look like John Travolta. I can't recall seeing any smoking ads nowadays.


CeaselessHavel

Because they (televised ads) were banned in 1971 in the United States. Pretty much only magazines can advertise and they usually won't.


Iwoulddiefcftbatk

Letting little kids sit in the front seat of the car. I remember being early elementary age and having fights with my younger sisters on who got to sit in the front seat.


OrdinaryOpal

Omg, yes! And car seats? Those were for babies when I was a kid. 3+ year olds just sat in the regular seat of the car, sometimes without even a belt. I remember a 8-10 year old kid pulling up to school in an actual child car seat and my classmates asking him why he was in a booster seat like a baby, poor kid just had responsible parents.


bgzkinsella

I don't ever recall sitting in a car seat. That's how early my parents stopped putting me in them.


gustogus

I remember us fighting over who got to climb onto the top of the back of the seat and lay down on the platform in the rear window.


Grave_Girl

*So much stuff* with babies. Not just the obvious car seats, but all sorts of sleeping stuff. Most of Reddit probably slept in a crib with a loose blanket, crib bumpers, and stuffed toys. You might even have been put on your stomach, or had a pillow. None of that is considered safe anymore. Babies are supposed to be on a flat surface, swaddled only under a certain very young age, with basically nothing anywhere near them. The CPSC just [banned a bunch of things in common use](https://www.consumerreports.org/product-safety/cpsc-rule-preventing-sale-of-dangerous-baby-sleep-products-a1191791052/), in fact, including "baby boxes" similar to the ones given out in Finland.


AtheneSchmidt

My sister is having her first baby (this week!) And learning all of the things that I consider "normal baby stuff" is dangerous and banned...it is weird, man. My mom ran a daycare out of our home until I was a teenager, so I always thought I had a good handle on how to take care of babies. Half the things that were expected or even required in a good daycare are now considered unsafe.


Grave_Girl

Oh, yeah, it's crazy. My oldest kid is 19, and when she was born it was OK to use a sleep positioner to put babies on their back or side (though back was preferred), and crib bumpers were common. Jenny Lind cribs were super popular but recalled and I think eventually pulled from the market because the drop side could malfunction & cause all sorts of trouble, up to and including death. I had a five year break in between kids three and four, and it was like starting all over again when it came to learning what was no longer considered safe.


errant_night

If your sister hasn't thought of it, go out together a gift basket of baby medicine, thermometer, etc. Nobody wants to think about their first baby getting sick so it ends up 3 am with baby's first fever and diarrhea and nothing is open to go get medicine - especially these days when stores like Walmart that used to be 24/7 and aren't!


lemonsweetsrevenge

**Baby powder!** Or talcum powder, specifically. If inhaled can cause aspiration pneumonia even death, and god knows there’s a shit ton of it flying in the air when people use it. There’s also a class action lawsuit currently going on for women that use(d) it in their panties; it’s being linked to ovarian cancer and endometrial cancer.


CleanieWeenie

When my husband's parents come to stay, I'm guaranteed to hear "when you were kids, you all slept on your belly with a blanket!" every single time I get the baby ready in her sleep sack. My mom always says "I hate these damn carseats, when you guys were three we were only using a booster and only when we remembered it!" when I leave the boy with her. I mean, I'm not some crazed bubble wrapping mom but it seems like their generation has no understanding about how things change. They can't acknowledge that while all THEIR kids survived that way, SO MANY didn't.


ClownfishSoup

When I took my kids home from the airport after one vacation, we had to wait for a minivan with car seats. My mother-in-law is like "look, we'll just HOLD THE BABY REALLY TIGHT", we don't need carseats! "THEY" will never know? I"m like "I'm not doing it to not get in trouble, I actually care about the safety of my kids". This is why we never let her babysit.


EiKall

The good old times, when cars had ashtrays for the kids in the back. /s


NinjaBreadManOO

To be fair they were great for fiddling with when you're a small child looking to occupy fingers on a long car trip.


ALoudMeow

Yup. Especially if no one actually used it for ashes. Just snapping that thing open and closed was a good fidget toy.


nosyarg_the_bearded

Whoa, thanks for that memory, haven't thought of that in a good 2 decades.


anonymous_subroutine

Survivorship bias


DigitalPriest

The laughable part of that is that modern carseats are sooooo much easier than carseats 15, 25, 35 years ago. The ones that have the booster seat that the carseat snaps into, the way the harness is built and opens/closes, all of it. I don't wanna hear shit about how 'difficult' they are.


GtYuhanZhang

Melamine Up until 2008, multiple Chinese baby powdered formula manufacturers secretly added melamine to their products. Melamine has high nitrogen content and mimicked the effect of high protein content in tests. Babbies who consumed the products were diagnosed with kidney stones. As it turns out, melamine damages one's urinary system in many ways. I could not stop wetting my bed until I was 10 years old. The scandal caused a huge distrust in the Chinese food industry that persists today. It also caused the phenomenon where mainland Chinese tourists bulk purchase baby powder for friend and relatives when travelling abroad.


justwannawatchdrphil

Like a magic eraser? The stuff from Melamine sponges?


GtYuhanZhang

Melamine sponges use a melamine-methanal-sodium bisulfite polymer. Even though it is constructed using melamine, it is chemically very different. But yes, we are speaking of the same chemical, melamine. formaldehyde-melamine-sodium bisulfite


abacin8or

Just to clarify, they were adding it to powdered baby formula. I was wondering why babies would be ingesting baby powder, which is used to prevent diaper rash.


unscot

This was never thought to be safe.


philwerrell_

cocaine. I've heard it used to be used in place of caffeine and in certain medicines. apparently Sigmund Freud was addicted to "medicinal" cocaine.


LeonardGhostal

The Sherlock Holmes stories have a bunch of times Holmes uses cocaine and Watson gets pretty concerned about getting Holmes off his addiction.


solojudei

At one point Watson does remark "For years I had gradually weaned him from that drug mania which had threatened once to check his remarkable career. Now I knew that under ordinary conditions he no longer craved for this artificial stimulus, but I was well aware that the fiend was not dead, but sleeping." Holmes used it when he wasn't working or didn't have something to occupy his mind with. Holmes would say that his mind is so powerful that he must have something to satiate it with and describes himself something akin to a machine but as I've grown older I thought maybe it was loneliness and depression, that without his work and with Watson being married frequently (his only friend) he used drugs as an escape. Just a thought. When he was working though, he smoked a lot.


LucyVialli

It even used to be in Coca-Cola when it first appeared.


fiddlenutz

Coca leaves still are, the lab I think in NJ keeps the caine part for pain patches etc.


Hygroscopa

" when I was young, we did a lot more housework.." "Oh yes grangran, you had cocaine in your soda"


philwerrell_

that's how she made it through the other kinda great depression


Aqquila89

Radioactivity. In the first half of the 20th century, before it became well-known how dangerous they are, there were many quack cures involving radioactive substances, like Radithor ([drinking water containing radium isotopes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor)), toothpaste laced with radioactive substances to make teeth whiter and [radium suppositories](https://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/quackcures/radsup.htm) to cure impotence. Radithor was taken off the market after the death of [Eben Byers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Byers) a socialite and athlete who started taking large doses of it following an accident in 1927. He died of multiple cancers in 1932 and had to be buried in a lead-lined coffin. A lawyer from the FTC visited him in 1931, and wrote that his "whole upper jaw, excepting two front teeth, and most of his lower jaw had been removed", and that "All the remaining bone tissue of his body was disintegrating, and holes were actually forming in his skull."


philwerrell_

That's terrifying. It's like the cartoons produced in the 40s that showed floating cars powered by nuclear energy, its not even close to how 2020 actually went lmao


PM_ME__PREDICTIONS

The Radium Girls is a great read.


WaveCandid906

Motorsports were considered "ok to be dangerous" Now they finally realized having Drivers and Spectators and Marshalls getting killed left and right was not a good idea thank God


thingpaint

Everyone use to just accept in that in formula 1 a couple of drivers a year would die.


Grave_Girl

I read *Flat Out, Flat Broke* by Perry McCarthy (the very original Stig), about his years in F-Series racing, and it seemed like not a damn chapter went by without him talking about someone else's death. It was crazy.


WaveCandid906

The only years pre-1982(I'm "using" 1982 because after that it was 4 years without any deaths and then another 6 years with no deaths) where no one was killed in F1-related accidents(Be it Drivers, Spectators, Marshals or anyone) were 1956, 1965, 1972, 1976(But Niki Lauda almost died that year) and 1979


shewy92

I still cringe in fear seeing photographer standing in the fucking grass 5 feet from the racing surface in old clips. At the start finish line there would be a whole fucking crowd around the flagman waiving the checkered ON THE TRACK while the cars go by. It's like common sense wasn't a thing back then. Hell it took NASCAR the death of one of the most popular if not most well known drivers to take safety seriously. The year leading up to 01 there was something like 3 deaths within a year. Adam Petty in the Busch Series & Kenny Irwin Jr in the Cup Series both died during separate practice sessions at New Hampshire in 2000 (May and July respectively), then Tony Roper died in the Truck Series at Texas in October 2000. 1994 was bad for F1 AND NASCAR for single event deaths. NASCAR had Neil Bonnett and Rodney Orr die during the Daytona 500 weekend in Feburary, and F1 had Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna at Imola in April


MidnightMath

Something tells me you'd hate old Group B footage.


Romofan88

The double edged sword of Dale Earnhardt. His death is the biggest tragedy is NASCAR history, but hes saved countless lives by making NASCAR take safety completely seriously. No deaths for 20 years and counting, despite some GRIZZLY crashes.


buffalocentric

Leaded gas.


An0nymousRedd1tor

The creator of it literally poured it on himself to show how safe it was. He died with multiple counts of lead poisoning.


jdmillar86

Inhaled it, too. Oh, same guy also helped develop freon, by the way.


Diethkart

He developed freon as an alternative to propane cooled fridges. That was an explosion waiting to happen.


vibinthedaysaway

My personal favourite is how they used to market smoking as a way to prevent dementia. Which, if you squint, it did. Most smokers died of cancer or cardiovascular disease before dementia had time to develop.


Millennial_Paleocon

Nicotine, not smoking per se, has been proven to decrease Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s symptoms.


nonbinaryspongebob

Asbestos


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Interestingly, that's been thought harmful since before 1900: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos-related_diseases#History / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos#Discovery_of_toxicity


nonbinaryspongebob

Cool so we just ignored it’s harmful effects. Lol


out_focus

We increased health and safety standards. In the 1900s it was considered acceptable to send up builders to the top of un unfinished skyscraper without any personal safety measures, not even a hard hat.


13-Penguins

“Every OSHA regulation is written in blood”


Bamboozle_

Yes, we now know it is Asworstos.


corf3l

Thalidomide


Hygroscopa

That was not safe for long time, right? Only for few months until first babies was born. I've red about it in some books, doctor were like "what the Frick is goin on? Forth baby this week with malformed limbs"


Superb-Ad3821

I’m sure I read something where it took an uncomfortably long time to come to light because the company kept insisting it was all coincidences.


corf3l

I believe it's still actually used for certain issues but when used during pregnancy leads to foetal issues


The_RoyalPee

Yep, it’s still used as a treatment for Multiple Myeloma. When my ex MIL was on it she was terrified of letting myself of my SIL anywhere near her and would bring her own paper cups/plates and plastic utensils with her if she was visiting.


save-early-often

Lawn Darts


peon2

My dad still has some that he's had for years. His step dad used to sharpen them regularly too to make sure they'd stick in the ground haha


pinkyfirefly

DDT. My mom said that the American military used to spray all the students (in post-war Japan) to get rid of lice.


Kiyohara

I mean, yes. But also no. DDT is *perfect* for killing insects, especially lice, mosquitos (and their larvae) and bed bugs. In post War Japan, things were really bad with all kinds of diseases starting to run rampant, and many of them were spread by blood. By spraying people (and their homes), yes there may have been long term effects (and these were more or less known) it also meant the people wouldn't die from malaria, a number of tropical diseases, the plague, and others. So while it was bad to spray people and risk health issues twenty years down the line, it was better than letting them die from diseases that could be prevented *now.* Today we have much better solutions, but when you are in a crisis and don't have many options, you take the "best" and worry about complications when they arise. The bigger problem was the *over* use of DDT in the world and polluting our drinking water, fisheries, and wild game. But use din an emergency to prevent millions of deaths via easily spread disease caused by lice, ticks, mosquitos, and bed bugs? Eh.


GuyFromAlomogordo

It is so effective against mosquitos that the UN has authorized its use today.


10W1ldC4rd01

Bread for ducks, milk for hedgehogs, peanuts for squirrels.


vardarac

Everyone knows gold rings are the only acceptable feed for hedgehogs.


bulbasauria

Peanuts are bad for squirrels??


AStartIsBorn

This is the first I'm hearing of this.


kaitalina20

Bread isn’t good for ducks?


MorphieThePup

It's like fast food for them- stuffing them up, but not having any nutrients, which leader to malnutrition in the long run. If you want to feed the ducks, you can use peas, lettuce or rice instead of bread.


rangerspruce

Work at a summer camp. Once found a document in the Arts and Craft building that said asbestos was a safe and fun material to use for carving. Wish we had kept that one...


IrascibleOcelot

No one mentioned arsenic? Used to be used as a depilatory and cosmetic ingredient.


purrfunctory

Lysol as a douche. Look it up.


fishmom5

My legs just crossed involuntarily.


purrfunctory

Yeah, first time i read about it my vagina made the windows shut down noise.


kainharo

This one is for the future but I'm going to say Plastic Bottles. We use them for so many things and ingest so many liquids with bits of plastic broken down inside. In a few years/decades from now I fully expect this will be the what the hell were they thinking using that item


GracklesRuleTX

Plastic EVERYTHING! Bags, bottles, containers, CLOTHES, diapers — it’s everywhere


pjwalen

Playing with mercury from broken thermometers.


lil_adk_bird

I remember back in the olden days of the 80's, my teacher brought in a good size container of mercury and we each got a bit to play with at our desks. I also remember she hated children and was the worst teacher which is probably why she let us play with mercury.


LidoCalhoun

I still have this toy I got as a kid in the 70s. It's a little maze encased in plastic and you tilt it to get a glob of mercury through the maze. I don't know how to dispose of it....


gumball_wizard

My grandmother accidentally broke a thermometer in her mouth and swallowed the mercury. Don't know if she swallowed any glass, but she lived to 98, so no harm done, for her at least.


DerangeR14

Years or degrees?


gumball_wizard

Years, lol. She insisted for about 40 years that since she was going to die soon, she should get special treatment and deference from everybody, especially family. She outlived my grandpa, married for 50 years, then was with her "gentleman friend" for another 18, then moved to be close to her kids and lasted another 10 years.


ultrapaiva

Teflon. Or the chemicals used in its production: C8. It’s present in every American’s blood. https://www.ecowatch.com/teflons-toxic-legacy-dupont-knew-for-decades-it-was-contaminating-wate-1882142514.html


Ascirith

I think that statistic doesn’t just end with america either. I think they did a study and they found it in most of the world


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Tribe_Net

Pesticides + Monoculture farming


Privateaccount84

US soldiers would spray each other down with agent orange for fun/when it was hot out. They were told it was completely safe.


DystopianEye

Hitchhiking. Smoking. Cocaine.


Creative_Waltz_9462

"Fussy baby? Try new lead and cocaine tooth ache drops! Now with more plutonium!" or "Check out Fossy's latest dress fashion with our 'non-toxic' green dye! It's arseni-rific!"