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People that have lived in socialist countries what is it like?

People that have lived in socialist countries what is it like?

Bergrugu99

be careful on read the answers right; Kenya and US are both capitalist coutries but have very different life styles, wellness and richness. so Cuba and Venezuela will be very different too. if a Venezuelan under here tells you that their coin is worthless and live in terrible conditions doesn't necessarily has to do with socialism itself take care


light0296

I've lived in a few socialist countries and my home state in my country is ruled by a socialist government every other term.honestly,I think if we set aside all those dirty political games,its actually a pretty good form of governing a country.its really hard for the rich to exploit poor people and even though there is very little extravagance,everybody is taken care of.


palishkoto

Not that great in China, at least back in the day, it destroyed the rural economy by deincentivising work (that happened before I was born) and caused a huge famine. China's prosperity has only really come from opening up and adopting capitalist elements imo. Some socialist elements in otherwise non-socialist countries are good though, like the NHS here in England. But it's no surprise that the Conservative Party's 'minority' MPs are often from backgrounds of socialist countries; it's not something many people look back on with fondness.


another_countryball

It only makes sense that they would be conservative, if their countries conditions were bad, then they wouldnʻt support a socialist party, if they were good, they wouldnʻt leave.


LativianHeat

pretty good, there are poor people but they're taken care of decently and don't end up dead or on the streets as much as they do in america


ethan0511

Oh cool where did you live?


LativianHeat

I live in europe (sorry to be vague) but I used to live in america


mycromachine

Username might've given you away bud


LativianHeat

my username is a misspelled nickname for an nba player


Dr_Talon

I once knew a woman who came from Romania. When she was a child, the police came to her house and tore the place up looking for a camera that her father had which he used for an illegal side business shooting wedding photos. He spent time in prison for that.


LativianHeat

Romania was a communist state


another_countryball

Socialism and communism are synonymous for most people.


LativianHeat

but they're not similar at all


Anon12109

Calling socialism communism is a scare tactic. Just because you call it socialism, doesn’t mean it’s socialism. Governments often mislabel their political model, like the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea).


another_countryball

What countries are socialist?


Anon12109

I consider countries like Sweden/Denmark and Tibet (technically part of China today) to be overall socialist in practice. By definition, socialism’s basic motive is to place social welfare over profits. Communism markets itself as socialism. In reality it’s a dictatorship that asks(demands) that citizens give everything up for the “common good”, when in reality everything goes to the elite as opposed to social welfare. It’s essentially a manipulation of the term socialism, enacted through propaganda, guilt and threats. Marketing communism as socialism is why the terms have become tied together.


another_countryball

That isnʻt socialism, it is social democracy, socialism believes in the communal ownership of the means of production and communism is a specific way to implement the idea of socialism. On a semi related note, this means Republicans are objectively wrong when they say Bernie is socialist, or communist, on the other side this means Bernie is wrong when he says that he is a democratic socialist... Just thought it was kinda funny.


Anon12109

Democratic socialism is definitely a closer description. So many nuances these days. Plus how or how much to incorporate capitalism. When I first heard about Bernie he actually considered himself a constitutionalist. Since he’s an independent today, I think he’s trying to find the right wording for his vision of a better system. It’s one thing to be raised on the ideals of constitutionalism, but then you realize that the writers of the American Dream were a generation characterized by slave ownership and sexism. Gotta redefine the dream at that point.


another_countryball

What countries do you think when you hear socialist? If itʻs western countries like France, Germany, or the scandinavian countries, that is not socialism, that is social democracy, sounds similar, but there are giant differences.


kaida_notadude

Social democracy is sort of where capitalism and socialism meet. It takes the free market and the innovation that it brings from capitalism, and combines it with the social benefits from socialism.


another_countryball

Social democracy is capitalism, with welfare. Socialism is the workers seizing the means of production and creating an egalitarian state.