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How hard will it be to start over?

How hard will it be to start over?

notthegoatseguy

Do you plan on committing crimes and associating with criminals? I wouldn't really worry about a mass shooting because if so, the shooting is likely going to be an intentional shooting from someone you personally know, and you specifically will be the target. If you don't plan on committing crimes, violent crime is highly unlikely to happen to you. There's tons of jobs out there. Warehouse work, call centers, retail and food service. I don't know what a PhD allowance is (college drop out here) but I'd recommend asking your school. Housing is easy to get. You give someone money in exchange for a good or service after you sign a contract. Probably pretty similar to wherever you're living now. Can't help you if your budget is low, and you probably won't qualify for any government assistance because even though you are a citizen, most benefit programs are run by states and they require you first to establish residency. If your budget is too low to wherever you're moving to, you probably should increase it or call up family or whatever.


MetroBS

Ok so based on your comments, you are a woman in the Middle East who is worried about your safety in the U.S.? I don’t mean to infer that the Middle East in inherently unsafe for women, but I guarantee you most American women would be less than comfortable with living in the Middle East due to the news coverage we receive and the stereotypes associated with the region. The same thing is happening here, where you’re inferring that the U.S. is unsafe because of the news coverage associated with the occasional shooting. In reality it is an incredibly unlikely event (I’ve never seen one nor has anyone I know) I promise you that, safety wise at least, you will be fine


moxie-maniac

A PhD stipend allows you to live like a grad student. In a city like Boston that means roommates, using public transportation, and living in a neighborhood like Allston. This is little risk of violent crime, in Boston, except in a couple of poor neighborhoods. You never need to go to those neighborhoods. Your university should have a housing office to help you find a place to live. I doubt your stipend would allow you to save or send money home. I suspect many grad students get money from their families to supplement their stipend. About PhD study in the US, research universities typically provide full funding, and a teaching or research assistantship, for which you receive a stipend. It’s a sort of red flag is an assistantship and stipend is in doubt, given this is May.


324645N964831W

> The mass shootings make it feel like im going to war. You'll be fine.


Send_me_your_BM

The media blows everything waaaay out of proportion. 99.999% of the US is super safe. The one issue you may have is most apartments require a credit check, so you probably have no credit, and they also usually ask for proof of income. So that may be a hurdle you face but if you have some sort of allowance that might work well. Make sure you know or have memorized your social security number because you’ll need that for anything official and I’d make sure you have a copy of your birth certificate too because you may need that while getting situated. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have


PimentoCheesehead

>most apartments require a credit check, This could be an issue, but in my experience in a university town there are always people who already have the lease but need a roommate or two.


Send_me_your_BM

Yes that’s a very good point, I added a roommate once to my apartment and my landlord still insisted on them getting a credit check even though I’d been paying the rent myself for a year, so idk how that makes sense. OP should get a low limit credit card from their bank as soon as they open one. Use it for groceries and gas or whatever gets additional rewards points as soon as they can and make sure to pay the entire balance every week. This will help to establish a credit history and if it’s paid off every month it won’t accrue interest charges


very_confusion_still

Thank you for your insight, hopefully i can find a job with minimum hastle...


Send_me_your_BM

I would recommend you find a relative or something you can live with initially while you get everything together. Hotels are going to burn through your money real quick


cantcountnoaccount

What visa will you on? Make sure you \*completely\* understand the limitations of your work visa and **never** violate them. For example, the F-1 student visa doesn't allow you to work except at on-campus jobs for the university for the first year. After that, you can work off-campus, but your work still must be related to your educational program. ​ Edit: I missed that OP is a US Citizen. That's super important!


very_confusion_still

I have a citizenship, i dont think i need a visa correct?


iapetus3141

> im a U.S citizen but i havent been there since I was a child


cantcountnoaccount

Oh, I missed that. Thanks!


leflombo

First of all, you’re more likely to die from food poisoning than a mass shooting so forget about that. Second, violent crime is very concentrated in poor, inner city neighborhoods, so as long as you don’t go into those neighborhoods and start trouble, then you’ll be fine. The rest of the US is very safe. What kind of job are you looking for? A near-minimum wage retail job would be easy to find, but beyond that your luck will vary greatly depending on the type of job your looking for and where you’re looking for it. To know if you can afford to live here you’d need to give us more info. How much is your PhD allowance? Where are you going to live? What kind of lifestyle will you have?


lannisterstark

>you’re more likely to die from food poisoning than a mass shooting Better, choking on your own food has a higher chance of happening than you dying in any kind of shooting.


very_confusion_still

Im fine with a minimum wage job to start off with but im hoping to get into research. My phd allowance depends if i even get accepted. My lifestyle is pretty basic, im not a spender but some extra cash to send back to my family and/or build a reasonable future would be nice.


lannisterstark

> The mass shootings make it feel like im going to war You'd think in my 7+ years here I'd have at least seen one shooting, even if not a mass shooting, given how much media constantly harps about it.


notthegoatseguy

Also make sure you get all of your official documents in order. US Passport (if you don't have one, contact the closest US Consulate). You'll need your Social Security Card and birth certificate once you get to the US as well. Jobs, school, banks, and more will be asking for your identification. Be prepared to get your [Real ID compliant driver's license](https://www.dhs.gov/real-id) once you get settled as well.


Curmudgy

A US passport is all you need for the I-9 for a job. Some employers may insist on the Social Security Card just to simplify confirming your SSN, but it’s not legally required afaik. I haven’t needed to drag out my birth certificate since getting my passport. It’s a good idea to have it, if you have a safe place to store it. The harder item for Real ID is proof of state residency. You usually need to set up some sort of utility account or bank account in your name and wait for your first statement.


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When you arrive in the US, you’ll enter The United States Citizen’s boot camp. They’ll provide you with the training necessary to not only survive our constant gun battles but also give you an AR-15 rifle, and some body armor. In all seriousness, foreign media (and our domestic media) really like to push this narrative that we’re a lawless country like the old Wild West. It’s extremely exaggerated. You’ll be fine, but if you’re that concerned stay where you’re at. I highly recommend having a job lined up or a PhD program in place before coming over though. Depending on where your from and what your Masters is in, our country, or the organizations within our country may not recognize it.


scrapsbypap

> the mass shootings make it feel like i’m going to war Are you for fucking real?


TheManWhoWasNotShort

Calm down. They're foreign, those things don't happen with any real frequency outside the US and they get tons of media coverage when they do. It's a totally normal thing for foreigners to be afraid of due to media portrayal and lack of firsthand knowledge about America. It's like Americans that think Chicago is dangerous.


Eudaimonics

The chances of being a victim of violent crime is still incredibly low. The media only reports on the most atrocious acts and never reports on the 99.99999% of days where nothing exciting happens. Generally speaking it’s not hard to get a low skilled job, but what you get paid can vary greatly from state to state.


hamburger666666

where are you moving to and from? what’s your masters degree in? most areas are quite safe, nothing to freak out about, but we need more info to answer your questions.


very_confusion_still

Moving from the middle east to Michigan or California because i have relatives there. After that depends on where i can find a phd program and/or job. I have an undergrad in dentistry (which i cant practice due to medical conditions) and a masters in neuropsychology research


hamburger666666

i’m not sure how much phd program stipends are, but probably not enough to send money home. if you were able to get a well-paid job using your masters while also doing a phd, you’d probably be set. also the cost of living in michigan vs california is wildly different. rent for a single bedroom in a three bedroom apt in LA can be as much as rent for an entire house in parts of michigan. look around on craigslist at apartments and jobs, check out the phd programs you’re interested in, and figure out what would be a concrete and achievable goal.


cantcountnoaccount

There is a large muslim immigrant population in the Southeast Michigan area, especially in Dearborn where you will find about 30% of the population is ethnically middle-eastern with numerous, mosques, halal grocers, restaurants. I believe the most numerous nationalities are Lebanese, Yemeni, and Iraqi but many nationalities are represented. Nearby public Universities include the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor (the "flagship" or largest/most prestigious campus in the State system), The University of Michigan at Dearborn, Eastern Michigan University, Wayne State University, as well as many private universities. If you can get into a PhD program at Uof M Ann Arbor, it is a prestigious school.


GiantTigerPlushie

if all things fail you can become a truck driver. The big trucking companies will pay for your schooling, but in return you need to work for peanuts with them for 2 years. As a trucker you don't need to worry about rent as you will be living in the truck. This is a excellent option if you exhuast other options and face the possibility of homless-ness.


Admirable-Trouble-55

Is this serious?


Capt_Irk

I’m sure there are plenty of truck drivers with a phd lol


Admirable-Trouble-55

And I know there are plenty of truck drivers that are unemployed, because being a truck driver isn't exactly pleasant work, nor is it well paid.


Capt_Irk

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree with any of that. lol


Admirable-Trouble-55

Lol. I don't agree with your experience? I have a nephew whose mom paid for truck driving school. 18k. He hated it. Now a landscaper because he makes more money. Average PhD salary. Doctorate (PhD) Degree $99,115 The Labor Department pegs the median annual salary for all truck drivers at around $40,000


Capt_Irk

Truck driving school does not cost $18,000. Your nephew’s mom is telling tall tales. You’re comparing doctor pay with trucker pay, and there are no similarities. I was just joking about the truck drivers with a phd. I doubt there is any.


Kingsolomanhere

I ran into a couple of dissatisfied academia types who quit their jobs and became plumbers. One had a PhD and the other had a masters in psychology. They were happy campers who enjoyed solving problems instead of teaching problem students.


Admirable-Trouble-55

Of course. I know 3 nurses who quit their jobs making 120k to become house cleaners. People leave their fields all the time.


Capt_Irk

Yeah I guess there is definitely a chance that there’s a truck driver out there with a phd lol


Admirable-Trouble-55

After ALL costs it was over 17k. NETTS in Somers, CT. New England Tractor Trailer Training School - Somers ranges from Under $10 to $16,000 


gaynazifurry4bernie

I got t-boned by a truck driver with a masters in comparative lit. Luckily he was on his way to work and not in his semi.


palmettoswoosh

Yeah why shouldn't he be? Guy who sits in front of me is paying drivers 1100/day to drive around 500 miles in a day. Home every day. Work 5 days a week. I just paid a driver 650 for a 2 hr drive. I'm about to drop 2100 on a 10 hr drive. So for example gross, his dedicated fleet guys will make around 280,000/yr. Now they are 1099'd so if they don't work they don't get paid. But should they work everyday for a year minus holidays and weekends thats how much they'll gross.


Admirable-Trouble-55

The guy who sits in front of me? Truckers (typically) aren't making more than surgeons.


seatownquilt-N-plant

They're probably 1099, so 20%-25% to taxes. Plus rig upkeep.


palmettoswoosh

You don't understand the business. And thats okay it is surprising to most. But yes gross he has 11 drivers running the DMV area at 1100/day. 10 hr days. Now fuel is expensive and so is maintenence so take home is probably around 200k. Nonetheless. Yes the guy who sits in front of me at work. My dad drives for ups and makes 90k a year. And cdl class was free. Just had to be working for ups in some fashion.


Admirable-Trouble-55

Why would he need to pay for maintenance and gas for someone else's truck? And why would your dad not take the other job where he'd make more than twice as much as they are both "truck drivers".


palmettoswoosh

Free insurance from ups. And he doesn't pay for anything that goes wrong. Need gas? Ups card or fuel station. Flat tire? Ups mechanic fixes it. Also makes 90k to hold a steering wheel as he says. Also home daily and works 5 days a week No these guys we hire are driving their own trucks.


Admirable-Trouble-55

Wait. So why are you suggesting a job where you need training and a 150k investment? It's cheaper to get college degrees and pursue something they enjoy where you aren't subject to the ups and downs of driving. My cleaning lady make 100k a year with no investment or training needed.


palmettoswoosh

Well you don't have to invest at all. You go work for ups or fedex and everything is provided for you. Home 7 days a week. Free insurance. Pto. However a lot of schools are offering cdl classes in high school and when they turn 18 they get a fundamental license. For free. You dont have to buy a truck. You can rent one or work for a company that has their own assets. I dont know anyone who is a maid who makes 100k in SC. I feel like you're over paying unless she is there daily.


Admirable-Trouble-55

I pay her for 3 hours. She has many customers. She makes 40-50 an hour. Anyway. Dude has his masters. Pretty weird career advice is all. Average Fed ex driver in South Carolina makes 40k. If it was easy to make 280k I'm sure people in South Carolina would be doing it.


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palmettoswoosh

The driver. Again that's why I said they'll probably take bhome 200 after spending 80k on fuel and maintenance


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palmettoswoosh

I mean only if they aren't smart about it. But I'm only on the selling side. I always tell guys go to ups or fedex. Be home daily, make 90k a year. And good benefits. Why spend weeks on the road and have to pay for everything you breathe.


very_confusion_still

Dont you need a special drivers license for a truck? Plus im a woman, does that affect my prospects? Also safety wise i dont think i would feel safe living in a truck lol


notthegoatseguy

You need a Commercial Driver's License at least, and I'm sure there's other training or certifications as well. A CDL can open a lot of doors. A common route to getting your CDL is working for your city's public bus service. They'll often pay for your CDL classes/training in exchange for you working for them for the first few years. As a new hire, you'll likely get stuck driving the worst routes and at the worst times such as evenings and weekends. If you stick with it, you'll get seniority and be able to get your route/time preference. And if you don't, there's tons of jobs in the private sector who'll take people who have a CDL + experience. This is probably not a job compatible with someone in graduate school. In fact most graduate schools regulate what, if any, type of jobs students can have while enrolled. As for trucking, my understanding is you work your way up. The low end is stuff like running from the local Wal-Mart warehouse to Wal-Mart locations. Pay isn't great but it is your experience. The real money is the long haul trucking, going city to city or cross country.


palmettoswoosh

I will add. Ups is in need of drivers and you will not make peanuts in their fleet. Now I will say if you work for ups and doing package delivery please consider tractor trailer. You're still home every day and yours not jumping in and out every 5 minutes.


Dbgb4

At the moment will be easy to get a job. Help wanted signs everywhere and in my business every company looking for skilled people in this industry.


Jakebob70

The shootings aren't a concern unless you hang out with gang members or drug dealers. There are shootings in the city where I live, but they're not random.. they're targeted due to gang conflicts or drug deals gone bad, that kind of thing. Don't listen to the garbage in the media about that kind of stuff.


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As others have said, it's extremely safe here. As for money, a PhD stipend allows for very lean living. If you're very good at living frugally, you can have a bit extra to send to family, but it's more common for PhD students to need help from family when there's a minor emergency like a car breaking down. You likely won't have time for a second job, especially after the first year. PhDs generally demand all the time you have and people with other commitments very often need to drop out. You shouldn't have any trouble finding a job. It will be harder to find a job in your field, but a job in a warehouse or service industry that allows you to put food on the table and rent a room in a shared apartment is easy to come by. And you can live off of that while you meet people and make connections that allow you to get better work. If you can find a community with immigrants from your country, they will likely be very, very helpful because they've been where you are now.


Comdervids

>My budget is low and im petrified First time? >How hard will it be to get a job and housing? Depends, shouldn't be too hard unless you're going to NYC or LA. >Can I live off of my phd allowance If you have a masters in an high-demand field, employers will fight over you. (assuming your degree and skills are valid, medical degrees might have different standards etc.) Idk what a phd allowance is >How safe is the u.s really? Safe. Lock your house at night, lock your car, don't do stupid things and you'll be fine. >The mass shootings make it feel like im going to war Dear god, you've been on reddit for too long.