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[deleted]

Caustic on winter express :😎☠️


Akuma_isworried

Fkn bitch boi in that mode


Piefly100

I literally switch to play caustic to counter the caustic and push the enemy caustic and gas there team


LordDagwood

Gas roulette. Is it my Caustic's gas? Is it the other team's? Is it the other other team's?


[deleted]

That’s why I play octane against the gas if caustic had a shitty loadout I’m waiting for him to get that havoc and alternator loadout


shaishad

Very irritative


game_cook420

Caustic/Gibby/Rampart....just saying


DaGamingHamster

Caustic/wattson/rampart*


[deleted]

Nah Watson isn’t that good most people just go straight thru the fences


Neirn_

She’s p good if you can get her ult down. Remember that everyone has three bases in the pocket, and they will yeet them at you after a hard-fought duel without hesitation


[deleted]

That’s true but there isn’t a very good spot to hide the ult I played against a Watson and they put their ult down but we broke it and spammed them with nades just for attempting to stop us from spams.


Titsmcgeethethree

Every time I have to play against a caustic on winter express it's just like "oh okay so this whole game is going to be extremely annoying and barely fun"


SayLesssBruh

Wattson is the one that really useless on Olympus since it’s mostly just open areas


Smoggy6364

Wattson went from a: **That’s a happy fence, that’s a silly fence** To: **That’s a-** *dies*


stonehearthed

She might live on. She has seen a lot of ghosts around here.


vsladko

I think she’s the least used legend this season if I’m not mistaken. Though one with a high win rate. Olympus feels like the worst map for defensive legends though as much as I love the map


HairyFur

Rampart and Wattson are equally uncommon imo, if one is more popular than the other it's the difference between 1/30 squads you get one vs 1/20, either way both aren't used much.


tentafill

Rampart is far more common than Wattson and Rampart is already really rare. I say this as a Wattson main who used to enjoy killing other Wattsons. Now there are so few that I'm just like "same hat!"


moby561

Rampart is also easier to use and better for beginners, compared to setting up Watson's fence. Plus amp cover really slaps.


tentafill

Coming from Wattson, Rampart is so much fun haha.. I don't know why she's not played more. Amped cover slaps so hard.


moby561

A little slept on, though I don't play her. I love good Rampart teammates.


NakolStudios

Wattson has a 3.9% pick rate whereas rampart has a 2.3% pick rate, I guess Wattson might be played more in higher levels. But both are a rare sight. Source: https://tracker.gg/apex/insights


tentafill

As far as I remember, those are aggregate from all seasons (or as many season as they have records from).. for some reason..


HairyFur

Told ya, you barely see either and the difference isn't huge relaive to games played for most people. I play Lifeline/octane and have started trying out Gibby, I almost never get them on my team.


[deleted]

Exactly. I started playing Watson a lot at end of season 6. This map made me go back


DarkAlleyWay-TTV

I play her all the time in Olympus. You can utilize the fences to prevent teams from pushing by creating a wall with them and her pylon can prevent you from being demolished from a Bangalore or Gibby ult in an open field


MileByMyles

In other words “You can play Wattson, by playing Wattson”. I think the point here is Olympus isn’t conducive to Wattson play the majority of the time since it’s so open and her fences are next to useless in the open.


Spadeninja

>prevent teams from pushing by creating a wall with them and her pylon can prevent you from being demolished from a Bangalore or Gibby ult in an open field Yes, those are her abilities


Cravit8

In ranked?! I don’t think so. Kind of what annoys me with people saying what does and doesn’t work. Everything should go through the Diamond tank filter.


Monty_920

Diamond is like the top 2% of players. If it works in Gold it's pretty fair to say it works


Cravit8

Gold? Uh, I’m barely a diamond player, because my aim sucks but I have good game sense. Playing gold is like my favorite place to be because it’s so easy yet people don’t quit like in pubs. Gold players are ex-silver players, like the people who punch the air pretty consistently on controllers and don’t know what their legends abilities are good for.


PringlePenguin_

Gold has no real strategy though, it's basically pubs. Plat is where people actually become decent at the game, and even then it's a bit of a stretch to call it strategy as people there are likely relying on 1v1 ability and not actual game sense.


Cravit8

I agree, but I actually think gold players are not at all like diamond, the difference is massive. Gold is just upper bronze when it comes to strategy, lots of players decent at shooter games but forget it’s an abilities game and forget to leverage their legend.


SuperGamer1894

I disagree. Shes equally as goon on worlds edge as olympus from my experience


twickdaddy

Naw on worlds edge there were buildings which forced you to deal with her fences. In Olympus, every building is either too small to be defensive in or too open and hard to protect.


SuperGamer1894

Fair point but i also said "in my experience". I also know exactly which building are best like theres 2 rooms in hammond which have only one door and its also the only entrance so wattson is literally untouchable with yer ult


ViperFromTitanfall2

I hate playing caustic on Olympus, trying to use has traps as cover and they disappear when you're 2 seconds from finishing a phoniex kit and die


Matte0w

Really depends on where you put them, i had a hard time in thr beginning with caustic, i have to admit. But after a few days/weeks i found spots where you can place the traps ss good a hidden, and still know where enemy's are etc. But still, KC is the best💯


[deleted]

Next time throw 2 traps, pop one, heal, and use the 2nd as cover, if you're lucky they pop it for you, if not its usually a little more time to finish healing.


ViperFromTitanfall2

Yeah, I get that, put at the time one teammate was downed, one was dead and I only had one off cooldown


Qmqkskgwgs

ikr


[deleted]

Dude I love that nobody picks caustic on Olympus. I have a field day. Nobody expects him, if you know how to place traps right out of view/around corners/ halfway in walls, they serve as a damage, slowdown, deterrent, and warning.


SovietMannifesto

Just git gud 😎


ViperFromTitanfall2

Lol yeah


Melissa-Crown

Eh? He ain’t useless there lol, just need to mind positioning. He’s great at locking down the portal tubes, for one.


Qmqkskgwgs

yeah but he is worst on olympus


HardGoodBye

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


SPACEmAnDREWISH

Phone's ringing Dude, it's your wake-up call. Large percentage of the buildings on Olympus are either too big or too open for caustic to work with. Add that to the shit show of rotating and tell me tht don't equal Gas Daddy's worst map


ben_hurr_610

It don't equal to Gas Daddy's worst map. Traps work regardless of how open or closed a space is. Saying buildings on Olympus are too big or too open for Caustic is like saying every other POI on KC is as good as Bunker. Throw traps down and see the magic. People run into traps more than we can ever imagine.


Black_Magic30

You’re right. Don’t see why you’re downvoted lmao Also, that’s why it’s useful to use caustic as a Bangalore and use the gas as a smoke screen. Pro tip: you don’t have to wait for the enemy to set off the gas traps.


mantis-tobaggan-md

i’m always setting off my own traps for smoke screen. revives, shielding, risky inventory management, and even the nox traps block enemy fire if they’ve been set up. they take more damage than rampart cover and i’ve won a couple games of winter express solely from using a box trap as cover


Black_Magic30

Hell yeah. That’s big brain right there Also, love the reference of your user


mantis-tobaggan-md

totally figured it out by accident i’m actually a low iq bronze 4 haha but now I use and abuse that one strat. be sure to cleanse yourself of your filthy hair.


ben_hurr_610

Usual Reddit. I'm pretty sure the downvotes are because I didn't reply in a way that appreciated the meme. I mean, sure lol lmao ROFL? If the meme was about Wattson, then maybe yeah I get it.


DannySorensen

Wattson I agree 100% fits this meme better. Caustic can rotate so much easier. Wattson cool down on fences is pretty long if you’re using all of them, then having to rotate to a new poi you have no fences. Plus they’re harder/slower to place, more obvious, and just worse than Caustic traps. This map is terrible for her.


Black_Magic30

I suppose. Ig it’s just me but when I decide on how I should upvote/downvote (if I do at all), it depends on the thread more than the post


SPACEmAnDREWISH

> Traps work regardless of how open or closed a space is No they don't, but have fun with tht 2IQ caustic


ben_hurr_610

It's actually not 2 IQ. Whatever gameplay style you're talking about is cancer since it practically promotes locking down a place and camping for the whole match. Now that's a -2 IQ Caustic.


SPACEmAnDREWISH

You clearly don't have a strong grasp on caustic's kit dude but fair enuf man have a good 1


Qmqkskgwgs

there a lot more open areas and the most of the houses are bad for locking down


SovietPikl

I think this is the problem more so than the map. People think the only way to play caustic is to gas and hide. Caustic's biggest strength is position control. Lock down choke points, protect flanks, and force enemy teams out of positions that give them the advantage.


[deleted]

It gave us an expanded Apex Legends shop! Caustic was made for the map.


cross-joint-lover

Eight year olds, dude.


guppy1919

My squad got wiped by a kamikaze caustic who stuck a bunch of gas traps on a trident and then drove into us as the circle closed. So there are definetly some creative ways to use him, but in terms of map layout, I'd have to agree that the open spaces are to his detriment.


Akuma_isworried

You playing on Oregon servers?


guppy1919

I'm based on the west coast but don't think it was the Oregon server specifically. Happened around 2 weeks ago


ragingbear26

Someone did that on my squad in ranked last night on the oregon servers and I was laughing so hard. Wish i knew who it was


Qmqkskgwgs

F


thisismynewacct

He’s far from useless. He’s only at a disadvantage if you have no movement legends like Path or Wraith. Otherwise he’s still pretty effective.


Big-Teb-Guy

I’m not a Caustic main, but every time I use him his abilities come in handy in just about every situation. I think some people are just really shit at him.


Wodood

And the fact that you cant only rely on your legends abilities. That wont help you if you cant hit for shit... :/


reason_to_anxiety

Top one is caustics who push and camp at a good balance Middle one is caustics who push a lot Bottom one is caustics who only camp


[deleted]

Unless you can take bunker or a loot bunker on KC, those are prime caustic camping spots.


X_Wright

Honestly you are perfectly right, I have only recently gotten into the mind set of I can push.


reason_to_anxiety

That’s great, most caustics are all to scared or too pushy. You gots to get that perfect balance


thisismynewacct

Bottom one is caustics who’s team W keys into the open for no reason when you have a perfectly fine building stacked with traps. It’s why I hate caustic, even as a caustic main.


reason_to_anxiety

If you play a caustic with communication then it’s amazing, without. Then it’s hell


thisismynewacct

That implies your randoms will listen...


reason_to_anxiety

They never do, they usually just go on their own adventure


Qmqkskgwgs

guess i’m the top one


reason_to_anxiety

Thank you king 👑


Qmqkskgwgs

got your back brudahh


reason_to_anxiety

Thank you, compadre


theol9

caustic is s tier legend in all maps


toastboy42

Caustic is honestly home on worlds edge, especially in the city


[deleted]

Kings Canyon, Bunker and Market would like to have a word


graver2000

His traps are excellent to cover all the tunnel and valley choke points on that map. Lets you know if a squad is following behind you


DeadBoyAge9

I agree, world's edge is best for him. been tearing it up becauase there's so many good buildings to be gas man


[deleted]

Idk other than in bunker, WE has much better spots for caustic.


SteveDevastator

I like to use the chonky toot factory in open areas, I also do not win alot or get kills often. But hey, the man said it best *I do not care who makes the kill, as long as I can observe it die*


GhoulGalore

Me, a Crypto main, following caustics example by watching people die in drone for those sweet assist points


SteveDevastator

I must have an identity problem because i cant seem to stick to one character Im really good at positioning and overall instinctual strategy which makes me useful to my team, as long as im not the last one to fight. I prefer to be the bullet magnet for my squad and position them into victory. A support character if you will.


AceAxos

Nah, real Caustic mains will adapt to any environment. I hit diamond for the first time wilt 95% caustic on Olympus


Satubha_zala

Rampart is worst dude.


oscarwildeaf

Yeah I feel like poor rampart needs a rework. Her walls are too easy to beat, and getting on a Sheila is basically asking to get sniped off. She can be really good in certain situations but mostly shes just useless


Dominiczkie

Just let her slowly move with the Sheila instead of making it stationary and she'll be much better. The handicaps she has in place are absolutely bizarre and make her absolutely useless in practically every scenario. Ideas for abilities themselves are actually very decent.


Satubha_zala

True, but one hit from sheila and your red armour is gone.


inkarn8

Nah. I’ve been using her a lot on Olympus. Her mobile shields work anywhere.


Ryuubu

I would actually disagree. She sucks everywhere but olympus works with her fine, especially at mid to long range


RespawnBeacon

I’m not a fan of Olympus it’s way to open and no where to take cover, they could’ve added more trees or boulders to take cover behind in the more open areas of the map


Qmqkskgwgs

well it’s not a natural place it’s man made


jacoba123

Exactly


NakolStudios

I mean it's a city but has more open spaces than KC and WE which are supposed to be much less urbanized, I hope they add more buildings in the open spaces of the map, so that it feels more like a city and you don't get destroyed by snipers when rotating.


SomeSquids

I wonder if people realize you don’t HAVE to exclusively stay inside with caustic. Pushing with traps and gas is incredibly viable in a lot of areas.


raidomp

you cant stop me


Qb_Is_fast_af

Tbh he is better on worlds egde because of the city


Qmqkskgwgs

ok


X_Wright

I don’t know as a caustic main Olympus has been fun as hell, closer to the center there is a vet area the you can go into. My friends and I have learn to set traps up for people.


_SmuQu_

Caustic and Wattson are godlike in Bonsai Plaza, Oasis etc. but feel like a total waste anywhere else between these special places.


DjuriWarface

Caustic is better on Olympus than World's Edge. Don't @ me.


MeMeLoRDGodAliA

Don’t under estimate the sheer power of caustic car


LukeKnighton

I *died* reading this


82ndGameHead

Just gotta learn the map. It's still relatively new.


Qmqkskgwgs

k


Crimeboss37

You seem to be responding to all the comments that aren't your opinion with "k" or "ok", are you offended or something?


Qmqkskgwgs

no i’m agreeing with him


Crimeboss37

Then why do all of your replies sound sarcastic


Qmqkskgwgs

what


Qmqkskgwgs

i’m not saying he sucks on olympus he is good but the worst on olympus


WhatsTheStory28

Who cares, he’s toxic 😜


[deleted]

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Qmqkskgwgs

it got out of the rotation for some time because of third party’s or something else


[deleted]

[удалено]


Qmqkskgwgs

well i don’t know then


Darth_Diink

Booby trap the respawn beacons


LegendaryJack

Good you overpowered piece of shit there's a reason if gas is banned by every international organization


LukeKnighton

Lol imagine thinking caustic is op


LegendaryJack

Sorry my ptsd kicked in


LukeKnighton

Lol


Qmqkskgwgs

FYI i’m a caustic main


Crimeboss37

Hard to believe based on the fact you think caustic sucks on olympus


[deleted]

You probably stuck in gold lmfao. Caustic isn’t for apex, I’d tbag all of you if you just didn’t sit in a building like retards


Qmqkskgwgs

and you’re a sweaty ttv wraith main


[deleted]

Better than a no skilled camping pussy


Qmqkskgwgs

you know caustic is great at pushing too


inkarn8

Nah.


Qmqkskgwgs

[this ones for you](http://youtu.be/UzxR1kfLq24)


[deleted]

Man literally waited 16 hours just to find a fitting meme


rammbro

Hello my name is Chobey how come you have to be so mean all the time


JustSomeBleach

Im guessing you aren't above gold. There's a good few caustics who just zone out the only building available and let the other teams duke it out


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Wodood

Probably just guessing from a playstyle standpoint, if your playstyle is bad/not optimal for that certain legend, then that legend can be percieved as bad from the player :)


Zidane-Tribalz

He’s right I see gibby and bloodhound more than you will see caustic but I still see him. D3 soloist here


Raferty69

Throw the traps on tridents.


TalkSickSoul

I can see how it can be frustrating that there’s no cover but I’m a pretty shitty player but have still had no trouble hitting people with gas and traps. I’ve just learned my favorite areas pretty quickly (don’t remember all the names tho) and usually drop there. I just pop the traps around any corner I go around, at the end of zip lines, and outside phase runner things if it’s a more open area. Works fine for me prolly bc I’m a caustic enthusiast tho haha. Once you memorize the map it’s way easier. It would suck to be wattson tho since you can’t really surprise people with her pylons but I don’t play her much so I could be wrong.


Sp33d98

So perfect they just gave him a heirloom


NyankonXIV

My good friend, are you forgetting the Gasmobile?


Moshyma

Caustic on a Trident:


[deleted]

Like for real. I land frag whenever I play caustic because it’s a gold mine. On Olympus it’s way to open


Pekkashi_Kitsune

Change the Middle Pooh to the top and you have the wattson tierlist, you welcome


Wip3out__

Meme has triple multiplayer strength when comes to Wattson


ANmXeImEeTsY

fool, fart boy knows no bounds


Qmqkskgwgs

i know,i’m a fart man main


penguinnewbie

Use to think the same until I keep getting shitted on by his ult in an open area


HG21Reaper

Caustic is great on Olympus idk what y’all are taking about. Even better when you team up with a Horizon and Revenant. Their ults combo pretty nicely and can be very beneficial in any area.


whomstdth

OP has clearly never used the gas car on olympus. pitiful


Airfan777

***Devs, fragging out with caustic on Olympus -*** Am i a joke to you?


nobadabing

Just play Caustic with Horizon and throw your ult on top of hers. It’s free kills basically


patty4204

Okay this actually makes me sad lol. Caustic was my fuckin boy on kings canyon, got like 6k kills with him, then they started to make the maps bigger and more open and hes slowly becoming useless :( Apex please bring back close quarters fighting with alot of buildings please.


LukeKnighton

Close combat gets... *messy*


Bodan32_PS

Hey everyone, I just want to say that people are trying to stick up for Caustic but being completely honest, he is a defensive legend. On Olympus there aren't very many places for him to set up like in normal gameplay. I'm not saying he is useless, however, he is a lot more limited in his playability.


Wy_Guy19

Idk man, I've got no problem playing caustic on any map. If you're having trouble on Olympus you just don't know where or how people move between zones well enough.


Psycho_Andy65

That's some major facts lol


Zerk_Daniels

Caustic: "Where my houses at?"


CrazyVato212

Now imagine Watson


smartedpanda

I picked up Caustic since Olympus has hella buildings. Think it's abou the same. I used to be Gibby and find less open space than usual for Olympus.


CallMeSpoofy

You get what you deserve


Crzy710

Get gud


Warrioryell17

Caustic is only good on Olympus if you can trap a squad in a building. Other than that he’s garbage on this map


[deleted]

oppositely, that is ramparts effectiveness.


emilomatosis

I'm not a caustic main but everytime i have to use him for challenges iend up loving him, no matter how open spaces are in olympus the fact the gas damages health without braking shields will always be op


Sikkceez

I agree. Hes useless in Olympus.


Kosame_san

Sad wattson noises


jameshacz

Just got past Diamond 3, my highest rank using Caustic as my main this season


alicetrancy99

The space is way to open to use Caustic. Almost every place has multiple exits so it’s easier to escape his gas. Also I dislike how everyone can see through his gas. What about Bangalore though? No one can see through her gas.


AlienHandTenticleMan

Idk y people choose him. I like him on kings canyon. I was a caustic main... this meme is so accurate. I slowly stopped playing him and became octane main now I’m almost plat 2. Also loba kicks ass! And I rly want to get better at wraith but I rly on abilities too much and her q is too slow for me to escape.


xXGoldenAvenger

As a secondary Caustic main, I've actually been extremely successful with him on Olympus. Won more games with him than with my actual main lmao. You just need to get creative and be very smart about your positioning. Caustic can always be a beast.


Stalins_SexSlave

To that squad of pussies hiding out in the shack just outside the rift with watson fence, caustic trap and cypto. Fuck you you fucking cocksuckin bastards you stopped me and my boy from a 24 kill win. In a PUBLIC GAME


Qmqkskgwgs

looks like somebody’s mad


Stalins_SexSlave

I cabt even begin to put my feelings into words. Like its a pub gane and they were camping like its ranked diamond league. Fucjfbkekdbsvba


[deleted]

Sounds to me like they have their own way of having a good time, and you don't like it.


Stalins_SexSlave

My friend how us sutting in a room fenved up with those fart traps all game fun. They are playing like its hardcore arma or something. Im mad cus they were the last squad and cheesed themselves to a win. God i should relly stat packing more nades


SomeSquids

I mean, they won. You’re just mad they outplayed you


Stalins_SexSlave

Outplayed? We were on trck for a 27 kill win. Those fuckers had 2 kills which were us. I downed the crypto and watson when they briefly came out. My only mistake was not having any grenades to flush out the caustic. Im mad cus i got cheesed out of a win by the biggest pussies on this planet


SomeSquids

Not sure what you’re not getting here. If they beat you how are they worse players. They played smarter and won


Titsmcgeethethree

Alright I get your point, but I get his as well. The people who hole themselves up with a bunch of caustic traps are never really the better players. If you count sitting in one location and exploiting a cheap mechanic that requires no skill "being better" than I guess we just have different definitions of that term. But if he's telling the truth and was on track for 27 kills, that means he would have to be moving around a lot and using actual skilled movement and gunplay to outplay many other teams. There's a huge difference. Even the best players in the world would sometimes get killed by someone just sitting in a corner the whole game. Doesn't make the person sitting in the corner better lmao


[deleted]

Play caustic, its super fun. I have more fun playing caustic and slaughtering people who walk into traps, than I do with almost any other legend running around and rotating for kills. (only exceptions being Octane, because his pure mobility and speed, and mirage, cause who doesn't love him.)


Stalins_SexSlave

Nah hes not for me. I prioritize mobility and movenent in a fight which is why i main path since like season 1. Horizon is pretty cool tho


[deleted]

Caustic may not have mobility, but he can definitely safely move you atleast, that gas covers no joke. I also love Horizon, her passive is one of the best IMO. If I could build a perfect hero I would say wraiths hitbox, her passive, Octanes tactical, and like, bloodhound/caustic/mirage's ult (not sure whose ult would be best tbh, but any great one works) would make a killer hero


Stalins_SexSlave

Honestly imalways looking to push push push. Caustic to me is just sitting an waiting for people to push me. And with oath i can just zipline or ferris wheel across open spaces like tobo tarzan


[deleted]

You just ain't playing caustic well my guy(no offense meant), he's a pushing champ, but hes the camping king. Toss a trap, pop it, instant cover. Throw em in and outta windows at people to get some great moves. Use his ult to zone and push, creates cover, moves enemies, does a lotta damage, and does it all well. Pair with bang's smoke for extra fun, as the gas becomes crazy hard to discern within the smoke.


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