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StAlvis

NTA Tina needs to learn to mind her own ~~bees~~earwax.


MannyXXXVII

Bro, I laughed too hard at your comment


missxmonstera

Say it to her face if they keep calling you names. Ask if they haven't learned to "mind their own earswax" then start asking stuff about their ear-cleaning habits if she is so afraid to "waste" q-tips.


debegray

Right? What does she think Q-Tips are used for 99% of the time? Edit: Just to clarify I know you *shouldn't* use Q-tips to clean the inside of your ear. My husband's a product of Q-Tips's early marketing and doesn't listen if you tell him he shouldn't put anything "smaller than your elbow" into his ear.


forest_fae98

I mostly use them to tidy up my eyeliner. I mean, and clean my ears, I get a lot of wax too. But mostly eyeliner cause I suck at clean lines.


ThatOneWeirdMom-

If you do the wing thing I’ve found that using clear tape helps. I keep a little thing of tape in my make up box lol. I lay it at the edge of my eyelid and tilt it the way I want the angle to be and use that for the initial line. Then I remove the tape to fill in the rest. I suck at clean lines so this helps me a lot.


yagipeach

also note to tap the tape on the back of ur hand so the adhesive isnt too harsh on such sensitive skin


JUiCY_oX

I put a bit of powder on that area before I put the tape on my face..makes a world of difference, when it’s time to take the tape off


nit4sz

Yeah. Uh, but then your foundation gets messed up... Edit cause I'm not going to respond to everyone individually: Yes I've heard of eyes before face. But then you have to try and blend your base around your eyes and then mess up the eyes in the process. Also, who's using eyeshadow that has fallout these days? There are so many good shadows that don't create fallout. It shouldn't be such a common issue.


SquashedByAHalo

Eyes before foundation


Emergency-Willow

I know you’re supposed to but I never have. It just feels wrong lol


unforgettable_potato

I mean. Same. I know that's how you're "supposed" to do it but then I tend to get foundation on my eyeshadow.


painsNgains

Who the hell started this trend? I've been doing my makeup for 20 years, and I have NEVER done eyes before face. The primer and concealer/foundation help the eye makeup stay in place longer, meaning there is less touch up throughout the day. I mean, to each their own and all that. That just sounds like a lot of trouble when you end up accidentally blending your eye makeup into the rest of your makeup. ETA a word.


aliteralbrickwall

I don't understand doing face before eyes! We are all different I guess 😭. And I find it's the complete opposite, it stays longer than when I do face first. When we do eyes before face, we usually conceal and prime just the eye first before doing the face. And because we don't worry about fall out, we can really work it in, rest our hands on our face for precise lines, ect. I went to school for cosmetology in highschool, and the girls who did detail art like myself always did eyes first. Then when you do base, you wipe away the leftovers, apply your primers and the rest of your makeup and it's extra fresh!! Because we were used to detail work, blending around the eyeshadow and eyeliner with foundation wasn't a problem for us but I can see how it would be complicated.


SquashedByAHalo

You can put a base on your eyelids without doing the rest of your face. Set your eye makeup, then just apply foundation etc everywhere else. It’s pretty easy to avoid your eyes - only exception is brows. I do them last


anwamoonie

I hate doing eyes before personally. Blending around the eye's make up is too painful for me I always screw it up


masterchef417

Do your eye makeup before your face makeup so you can clean up after without fucking everything up


ThatOneWeirdMom-

Yes what Squashed said. I always do eyes first and then clean up any fallout and then I do foundation. I’m clumsy and messy with make up so I have to do foundation last. I used to do the opposite and would have to fix it so many times.


CommercialBasil2354

Use an eyebrow brush with a thin, crisp line of bristles. ♡♡♡


CommercialBasil2354

For the eyeliner not your ears lol


Babygirlaura-50

I go through about 5-7 q tips daily for makeup 😂


Nefirzum

Here I gotta ask if the qtips isn’t more harmful? It is not recommended to use them in ears not even the manufacturer meant for them to go in ears. You basically push wax in and make it more impacted.


realshockvaluecola

There's a correct technique to use that he was presumably instructed in. Either way, OP was specifically told to do this by a doctor and there are clear consequences when he doesn't.


XFataMorganaX

Usually. My allergies cause intensely itchy ear canals, so my doctor actually has me use qtips to apply hydrocortisone liquid. It's only at a shallow depth, though. I'm not quite jabbing my brain with them. I also don't have issues with ear wax.


ValiantValkyrieee

i also have extremely itchy ears but i literally have never even considered putting some cortizone in them. that's brilliant


pearlsbeforedogs

Make sure you discuss it with your doctor, to be safe. Cortizone is a steroid, and using it improperly *can* have negative consequences, such as if you use too strong of one or for too long it can cause the skin to become thinner and/or more fragile. It is generally recommended with long term topical steroid use to take a week or two on and a week off.


FirebirdWriter

I have wax issues on and off due to weirdly shaped canals and also so the peroxide thing. Basically yes there's a time and a place but most people seem to ram them in until they bleed?


Kerostasis

“Most people” don’t jam them to bleed depth - but enough do it by mistake for doctors to consider it a risk. I think it comes down to whether the risk of cleaning is more or less than the risk of NOT cleaning, based on your personal wax situation.


lespritd

> It is not recommended to use them in ears not even the manufacturer meant for them to go in ears. You basically push wax in and make it more impacted. That is true. But the thing about produce liability warnings is: they're typically driven by a small number of people who get bad results. Most people who use q-tips against recommendations to clean their inner ear do so just fine, without any ill effects. If that wasn't the case, the practice wouldn't be so widespread. > Here I gotta ask if the qtips isn’t more harmful? It sounds like it isn't. From OP's description, if they were causing more harm than good, their ears would be absolutely plugged up pretty quickly.


GerudoZelda

This is correct. I am an Audiologist and i would never instruct a patient who suffers from impacted cerumen to use q-tips they are just going to inspect this move. I’m suspicious of this…


Nefirzum

Yeah I’ve heard about this and it felt like this would be a big no no for people suffering from it.


nerdabcs

Yeah, I am a medical assistant that cleans out ears, and my providers would NEVER suggest qtips for earwax.


lieyera

You’re correct. I also have crazy waxy ears, and I was told to use a mix of 1/2 bottled water & hydrogen peroxide to dissolve/loosen the wax. I only use qtips around the outer part of my ears afterwards. They sell little squishy things that you can fill with warm water to spray in your ear and clean out the dissolved wax. Qtips definitely make the problem worse in my experience.


LilyOfShalott

I have insanely bad ear wax to the point I went deaf in one ear until my gp flushed my ear, took over an hour to get it all out. There are qtip like ear cleaners that have an ear spoon on one end and the other looks kinda like a beehive made of plastic, meant to scrape the ear wax free and then you use the spoon end to remove, works so much better than qtips for me


caffeinefree

The biggest issue with Qtips (per my ENT specialist) is that the little cotton fibers get stuck in the wax and basically form a sort of composite mix that hardens and then is almost impossible to remove without specialized equipment. It's like mixing concrete in your ear canal. He recommended I use ear drops that basically liquify the wax so it dribbles out - which might be what OP's drops are, since they mention the wax actually dripping out of their ear after a few days of not cleaning. When I use my drops, I put a tissue on my fingertip and just gently wipe the liquidy wax out of the places I can reach. My ENT says don't ever put anything smaller than your finger inside your ear, so I don't. 🤷🏻‍♀️


Sea_Lab3273

I wonder what she thinks about “wasting” toothpaste, water, shower gel and shampoo every day. You obviously can’t be “wasting” stuff just to maintain your hygiene. That’s so extra


TheBearWillBeFine

Also who bitches about the money spent on Q tips? A giant box of them at Walmart is like 3 dollars. It’s not like OP is using an entire container of saffron on the daily or something


debegray

I agree. I think she was just being mean.


kill4kandy

I mainly use q-tips to take my contact lenses out.


JaMarrChasingJoe

How??


kill4kandy

You bend them in half to make a little q-tip tweezer thing and it pops the contact right out. I'm sure I'm explaining it badly, but it's so easy. I could never get them out with my fingers and I have long nails. The q-tip only touches the contact and zooop, it's out.


granitebasket

I have palmar hyperhydrosis (abnormal palm sweating) and periodically use a liquid anti-perspirent on my palms. The night before my wedding, I used the last of a bottle on my hands before realizing I hadn't taken my contacts out. Obviously not a chemical I want near my eyes, and didn't want to wash it off having none to reapply and have sweaty palms on my wedding day. I had to have my BFF take them out, and she had zero experience with contact lenses. This q-tip trick would have been handy.


UniqueTrip8207

Also how much does she think they cost? Not to mention the way you spend your money is your business not hers I thought she was gonna say it was wrong because it produces too much trash or something along those lines. I will say you can get silicone ones you can clean and reuse. Edit: NTA


Spirited_Clumsy

Call her Q-Tip Tina, the keeper of the Q-Tips. Was part of their rental agreement, that she would purchase all Q-Tips for the household or why is she so concerned with the millions of dollars you’re wasting, splurging on precious Q-Tips?


Particular-Village91

Strong Larry David energy


spellbound1981

this could be a seinfeld episode


calliatom

Though as a fellow sufferer of impacted earwax, I would say that Q-tips actually aren't that good for it and tends to make it worse. Sufferers are usually advised to use a rinse of water and hydrogen peroxide.


CissaLJ

This! Hydrogen peroxide dissolves most of the wax, and the rest flakes out.


MaybeIwasanasshole

Is Tina for some weird reason responsile for buying q-tips? Why does she even care?


katejldesign

This is actually my first thought too. Why does she care? Also, where was she raised? Is it me or is it kinda rude to point out other people's cleaning habits? Like even if someone doesn't shower for a month, you have to find a polite way to bring it up. Let alone if someone is actually taking care of themselves. OP is great. I'm so petty I'd buy her a pack of q-tips daily. Put a bow on it and place it on her pillow. DAILY.


Key-Ad-7228

This is honking big Christmas stocking, hung by the fireplace with CARE, filled to overflowing with various size and colors of packages of Q-tips petty. I'm down for it.


mellomee

I mostly agree but the shower thing gets mentioned once someone stinks because then you're affecting everyone and it's possible they don't know they stink.


AlexandrinaIsHere

NTA, but I would suggest using different things. Qtips can leave lint and eventually make a bigger problem. I like some flexible plastic scoops I found on Amazon. My ears aren't quite as bad as yours but still I have stretches of time where it takes a week of daily efforts to regain my hearing from the damn wax. No such issues so long as I use those scoops.


Egotestical1

Man, this thread is making me realise how much I take my own set up fo granted...


realshockvaluecola

My stepdad uses a plastic pen cap. Extremely weird but probably similar action to the scoop.


Shazam1269

I saw an old dude cleaning his ear with one of his car keys, examine it, sniff it, and wipe it off on his jeans when I was a kid and have that clip burned into my brain now. I'm 54 and can still see it, plain as day.


Kindly-Might-1879

Pen caps are also great for scraping dirt from under fingernails lol


AlexandrinaIsHere

Yes and no. Clinere has a taper to the handle that makes it more obvious if you're reaching too far and likely to hit your ear drum. And the flexibility of both the scoop end and the other end (looks like the utensil for honey? Not sure the name but it's great for scratching itches) means it's nearly impossible to scratch the skin hard enough to break it. The plastic has just enough of an edge to get the itchy spots but any more pressure and it bends.


JinglingFool

Ear curetts would prolly get out a lot more wax than the q tips, just a heads up


Disastrous_Lunch_899

I tell my son all the time that he is the largest earwax distributor of the Midwest. Wait. Maybe he made a Reddit account. Billy? Is that you?


Outrageous_End8447

I had a problem with my earwax as well, went to the doctors and got the whole junk out-they also said don’t use Q tips for cleaning ears. NTA mate


Miserable_Scratch_99

I cannot describe the sheer hilarity of that statement


spellbound1981

best comment!


TheDevilsAdvocxte

NTA. I have the same thing!!!!!!! It is not comfortable at all and stop using Q tips! Q tips push the earwax further into the ear. You need to buy a kit off of amazon. I can’t count how many times I went to the doctors and their like “Dude your earwax is all the way down by your ear membrane“. Don’t do it to yourself! Also you can professionally get your earwax removed as well. Though I don’t recommend the professional for every time. It’s easier to buy the kit and ignore them. They don’t know the struggle.


MannyXXXVII

Oh that’s actually really cool! Can you give me a link to this kit, the Q-tips are *really* uncomfortable lmao. Wish I’d’ve known about this jem fucking sooner


TheDevilsAdvocxte

Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/Ear-Wax-Removal-Tool-Tilcare/dp/B0865JJZ7K Option 2: https://www.amazon.com/KAIDIFI-Cleaning-Wireless-Otoscope-Compatible/dp/B09XMS8739/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?crid=217UF91OUFTRH&keywords=ear+wax+removal&qid=1663903158&sprefix=ear+wax+removal%2Caps%2C100&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRVFCMVdTNEdFRFJOJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTEyNTg1MjQ2WENLSDMyN0ZFQiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDU2MzQ4M0s5Q0JMSlNHQVlKTCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl Option 2 is better. But I think option 1 also works. Also tip: DON’T USE DEBROX! The Debrox drops made my ears BURN. Like it was such a heavy burning sensation and it was the worst! Edit: Option 2 was removed off of Amazon but just search “Amazon Earwax removal kit” and it should be the one with the camera tool included.


MannyXXXVII

Oh my fucking god THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN


Pleasant-Koala147

I love that you came here to find out if you’re an AH and found a solution to make your ears more comfortable. I hope one of these works out for you!


Noemotionallbrain

Yes and less wasting Q-tips


Odd_Palpitation3156

Tina would approve


BUTTeredWhiteBread

This is the shit I come to reddit for.


ltolivia_benson

I also use that 2nd option and it's soooo great


deaddlikelatin

My boyfriend is obsessed with cleaning his ears and goes through tons of q-tips. He doesn’t have a condition with them or anything he just really likes clean ears. Hope you don’t mind me randomly asking this but since you use it would you say this would make a good gift for my bf? Or is this product more geared towards those with excessive ear wax?


ltolivia_benson

Oh no worries dude. He would def love it if he's obsessed with cleaning his ears. I dont have a condition either and I really like it. There's a ton of different attatchments and the camera is super awesome and easy to use.


deaddlikelatin

Neat!! He’s so hard to find Christmas/birthday gifts for so this will be awesome! Thanks!


ltolivia_benson

You're welcome!


jj328328

I don't have excessive earwax but find cleaning my ears weirdly satisfying... yes... get him this


Smgt90

I also find it extremely satisfying but I don't do it because it's supposedly bad for your ears.


3r14nd

also wait until after a nice hot shower before cleaning your ears. The hot water/steam will soften the wax making it easier to remove esp, if your using warm/hot water to clean your ears as well, with option 1.


Ultra_Leopard

Olive oil drops help soften it too. When we do ear syringing we expect patients to use olive oil drops for 2 weeks prior to their appointment.


mckinnos

Not original responder but you should try to go to an ENT if you can afford it. They’ll do the cleaning and give you some advice about how to handle your condition. A few drops of hydrogen peroxide might help, since it softens the ear wax, but ask a doctor first!


FuzzAldrin36

My dude. Don't ever use q tips to get wax out of your ears. Even people without impacted wax should never use them to get wax out of their ears. I don't have the exact same issue, but I have an issue with the same result. My ear canals are off in angle, so while I don't produce more than I should, my ears can't expel it on their own. Growing up this resulted in frequent ear infections and wax buildup that would leave everything sounding like I was underwater. I would spend hours in a Dr office for them to soften and remove it layer by layer. Finally when I was in my late teens or early 20s, my Dr, knowing I was fully versed in this process and could carry it out safely at home without doing any damage, had me order the Elephant Ear Washer online. It's the tool they use in the office. I ordered it right after that appointment and have never had to go back for that since. I also have not had an ear infection since then, which was about 15y ago. I *highly* recommend getting something for home use that will keep you on top of this, but it is also absolutely necessary that you take whatever you buy to your doctor first to be sure you know everything you need to in order to use it correctly. One overeager blast of water to clear an impacted chunk will leave you with a ruptured ear drum, a ton of pain, and a whole host of new problems. Oh, also, maybe ask your brother and his fiance why they're so obsessed with your earwax. They can't seem to stop talking about it. It's weird. NTA


quidscribis

We have the second one as well, and it works great.


TheDevilsAdvocxte

No problem!


WSF_1

I really love this community. Just really warms my heart.


lime411_

Maybe go get them professionally cleaned b a specialist and even go once in a while to make sure they’re doing good


artichoke313

I’m a doctor and I’m shocked that no doctor has ever mentioned something like this to you. Qtips are definitely not the best tool for you and they may be making your problem worse. Have you seen a physician about this? An ear, nose, and throat specialist may be able to give you other recommendations to help!


minnieboss

Seconding Option 2, the metal ear picks! Life changing!


Sore_Pussy

also u can go to the doctor/nurse/audiologist and get suction clean-outs every so often


happyjeep_beep_beep

Definitely use something other than Q-tips. I suffer from the same issue and was using Debrox and Q-Tips and my ears itched like crazy. Finally went to the doctor because both ears were completely blocked. The earwax basically cemented itself to my eardrums. OMG THE PAIN when they were trying to remove the wax from my ears. I've never felt anything so painful in my life. But it was such a relief when they were finally done and I could hear again. That was five years ago and I haven't used Q-tips since.


looc64

Did not realize technology had progressed to the point where you could get a camera ear pick for less than $30. What a time to be alive.


Live_Background_6239

My inlaws gifted my kids this video camera on a flexible stick. We were doing home renos and there were spots we couldn’t see to make decisions without heavy demoing. We priced out equipment for that and it was stupid expensive so we put the projects on hold until we could demo. Then Christmas came and my kids were enjoying the camera. I looked it up snd it was like $25 😒 we used that camera far more than my kids did 😂


joemckie

I have one! It’s pretty cool to be able to see your own eardrum on your phone :)


asocialautist

I'd like to suggest Clinere ear wax scoops, they work well for me! They also have a ribbed Q-tip-like opposite side that is an excellent inner ear scratcher.


GroundbreakingAd8798

that sounds orgasmic


Ravioverlord

I have a metal scoop that has been a life saver for me. Easy to use and can't go too deep. The little bumpy thing on the opposite end does feel great for itchy spots as well. (Kinda looks like those wooden sticks to scoop honey that are bumpy) Never tried clinere, are they reusable or disposable?


AlexandrinaIsHere

Clinere are disposable, but the plastic is flexible so I find them much more comfy than metal sticks.


priapismLPN

I mentioned it in my own comment, but liquid Colace works magic as ear wax removal.


KathrynTheGreat

Colace... Like the laxative? Interesting


priapismLPN

One of my co-workers is an old school nurse. And as she quotes an old doctor of hers “If it’ll eat through shit, it’ll eat through earwax.”


KathrynTheGreat

LOL well that makes sense! I have a similar story... Some friends of mine were having a difficult time conceiving so they checked with a fertility doctor. Everything was fine but his ejaculate was kind of thick so the sperm couldn't go as far as it needed to. The doctor suggested that he take mucinex every day. She was pregnant pretty soon after that lol


priapismLPN

It oddly makes sense. I’ll remember that. Granted I’m not actively encouraging my patients to procreate more than they already have.


KathrynTheGreat

Yeah I think it totally makes sense, because it's still a mucus-like fluid, right? And it apparently worked! I don't have patients but I'm all for people not procreating too often. Most of my friends have just one or two, and I don't know anyone who has more than three (other than my parents - HA!). I turn 35 in November and still have no plans for babies, so I think my husband and I will just be one of those DINK couples and we're totally okay with that.


priapismLPN

I’m a jail nurse, which is why we don’t encourage further procreation.


apathetichic

A lot of women take mucinex when trying to conceive too, because it thins the cervical mucus and makes it easier for the swimmers to swim


Wattaday

Colace doesn’t “eat through shit”. What it does is increase the amount of moisture released by the large intestine to keep the stool softer so you don’t end up shitting hard boulders. A very big help when you take medication that causes constipation.


priapismLPN

I know how it actually works. But that’s just the comment this nurse makes and it makes me laugh.


pineappledaphne

Colace is what the urgent care doc used in my ears once. Holy shit I’ve never heard better. Works amazingly


BendingCollegeGrad

I love Reddit so much sometimes. Never heard of this product! Have you ever used it at home?


pineappledaphne

I haven’t (too lazy to look up generic but it’s posted somewhere else in a comment) but I bought an ear cleaning kit that has a little blue bulb sucker like they use on babies and some special drops. Clears my ears out great and I haven’t had to go back to urgent care for a “deep clean” lol


BendingCollegeGrad

I’ve seen it! Thanks for the recommendation. My ears are not too bad but I’d like to not have to ask for an ear cleaning once a year.


ceh789

Option 1 is your friend. Don’t try option 2 without starting a routine with option 1 first. Use distilled water or boiled then cooled tap water. Do it 1x a week for a while then go down to every other week. Be aware that you need to spray a lot more than you probably think you should to do it right - like literally the entire bottle each ear. And throw away the q tips. Source: geriatric care RN here, old man ears are seriously gnarly.


MxBluebell

Oh my god, you are a HERO for posting this!! My left ear for some reason is really weird with its wax. It usually gets stuck to the ear drum and makes weird noises, and I do everything I can to relieve it. I even used a comodone extractor to get the wax out the other day. It was all crystallized and hard, which was why I couldn’t get it with a Q-tip. I’ll have to see if my dad will let me use his Amazon account for that!! (He’s the one who pays for Prime in the family 😂)


calliatom

Option 1 works fine, and tends to be the first choice since it's cheaper (even if you have to make the rinse to put in it, it's just hydrogen peroxide and water, not bad at all). Though where OP's case sounds fairly severe and chronic Option 2 would probably be a better investment.


ResolutionOk3390

Sounds like Amazon is going to have a Run on Earwax remover Option 2!!! Better git eerrr. Earrr? 😄


IWantA4090Ti

I just wanna say Debrox is the only thing that worked for me, store brand drops or drops made of other material don't work for me at all


life_is_a_whiteboard

Thank you! The things I learn in this subreddit 👌🤯


froggus

I once had ear wax that fused onto the eardrum and I was deaf in that ear for the day. It started out with water in my ears from being 10ft deep in a pool, used the wax softening oil drops in my ear to try to get it out. All it did was melt the wax enough that it shifted further in and stuck to the tympanic membrane. I went to the clinic and they used a gigantic metal syringe filled with warm water to blast the wax out of my ears. The SHEER AMOUNT that came out was baffling, and I have pretty normal earwax.


artemis9781

Go to your doctor and get them to syringe your ears- that way all the wax will be removed and you can start from scratch. Make sure to check if you have any structural differences in your ear canal. For instance, I have narrow, ‘bent’ canals, both of which mean water/wax get trapped deep in my ear which causes infection. Your dr will also be able to tell you if there’s an underlying condition. And don’t wear earbuds- the directed sound waves push the wax further in. Stick to over-ear headphones


Glittering-War-5748

One of the earliest things I remember as a kid was being taught to never put anything smaller than my elbow in my ear. No way no how should you be using qtips. You are literally pressing the gunk in and down.


Vellylover

I once gave myself an outer ear infection by scratching my ear with a bobby pin. It was so painful. I never put anything in my ears now ever. I just wash with water and my finger. No q-tips for me. My husband loves them and it makes me cringe


purplebobbins

NTA, and also as many have mentioned, using Q-Tips is pretty bad for your ear health (pushing earwax further in and causing irritation). I get irritated ears and a buildup of wax, not as bad as yours, and use almond oil to soften it so it comes out more easily after a few uses, but if it’s really bad like you have mentioned, sounds like it needs intervention from a doctor. This looks like a good summary; https://health.clevelandclinic.org/ear-wax-removal-101-the-best-and-safest-ways-to-clear-clogged-ears/


dominus_aranearum

I don't have to clean my ears as often as you do but I use a Monoject #412 syringe while I'm in the shower. First I tip my head and fill my ear with warm water for like 30 seconds before draining. Then I fill the syringe and irrigate a few times until my ear canal is clear. No drops necessary.


bottleofgoop

Q tips are awesome as blending tools for artists though.


mmmbopdoombop

Q tips should not be sold in the hygiene department. It's no surprise evolution made our earholes just a little bit smaller than our pinkies. I don't wanna circumvent millions of generations of evolution by poking shit into my earholes.


NorthernSparrow

They’re great for putting nail polish remover on toenails, hair dye on eyebrows, antiseptic on cuts, certain makeup uses, etc. Basically, they’re great for spot applications of stuff onto skin. They should never have been presented as an ear-cleaning thing, though.


3xlduck

Uh, have you ever seen an ENT doctor about this? This is not normal. And also you don't use Q tips to clean ears, in case you do. They are about the worst thing to clean ears with.


MannyXXXVII

Honestly, someone else in the comments just said “bro, don’t use q-tips” and told me about a kit I can use, which feels like a lifesaver. My ENT said “just use q-tips”, so I smell a possible even juicer story soon… ahh, malpractices, ✨𝖎𝖓𝖈𝖗𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖇𝖑𝖊✨


Dizzy_Needleworker_3

IANAL but i really doubt your ent telling you to use qtips to clean your ears rises to the level of malpractice territory.


addisonavenue

Same. Q-tips being horrible in general is something pushed by doctors even outside ENT for their well-known drawback of pushing wax further in.


CocklesTurnip

The doc might be thinking that Ops ears are so bad that the negatives of q-tips are outweighed by the severity of Op’s condition. I was told by my dermatologist and ENT to use q-tips for my ear eczema because it’s the best of bad options and they would not suggest q-tips for 99% of patients. The way I need to use them shouldn’t cause the issues they cause with most people. But I still need my ears checked more often because I’d it. Like there’s good medicines that help with mine but every pharmaceutical company we could find switched to peanut oil as the base and I’m allergic to peanuts. So the other options don’t work for me. Otherwise I could put in a few drops every so often and never need a q-tip.


Spellscribe

Omg HOW DO YOU MANAGE EAR ECZEMA please I'm ready to cut my ears off with a butte knife


CocklesTurnip

Miserably. There’s a drop (name is something like otic oil drop)that worked well but a study came out that peanut oil is the cleanest oil to use as a base for ears. I’m allergic to peanuts. No manufacturer my doctors could find make batches without peanut. They claim it’s hypoallergenic peanut. Ha! So I frequently do a fast a tip after shower. Use a little eczema shampoo in my ear and there’s some creams. My scalp eczema is mostly under control but my ear isn’t. And it’s all in the canal so it’s not like I can easily scratch. So q-tip helps dry and/or knock the flakes (I know, gross, but eczema is mostly dead skin flakes that don’t schluff off with some added ick). If you have it go see your dermatologist and possibly an ENT. Get them to prescribe you Rx stuff. In mean time get dermarest shampoo it’s a non RX amount of one of the eczema shampoos, let a minuscule amount get in your ears and wash out well. It’ll calm it down but too much water that doesn’t drain can both make eczema worse and cause some swimmers ear. I like using the harder packed organic cotton q-tips with a point, they seem not to shed much at all. Takes a lot to make it lose its shape, so safer for ears. With the normal caution that nothing going in your ear is the best, don’t want to puncture your eardrum or make things worse. Also put Aloe Vera gel in the fridge (with or without lidocaine) it can also help. It helps sunburn so I tried it and nothing online said not to so that’s another otc thing you can try. But too much and it can make for added issues because of buildup. Maybe someone who knows more can see this comment and give more advice if that’s a bad idea but the cold plus skin soother, just a little on a q-tip and only at very entrance to ear canal (since unclear if that’s bad for membranes in there) seems to help some. It’s definitely good for sunburn and skin redness though, so if you don’t keep it in your fridge, you should. Worse comes to worse short course of doxycycline. I got a bad sinus infection the other day (worried it was also flu or covid, neither luckily, so urgent care put me on doxycycline since it’d clear up sinus infection and anything else bacterial that could be brewing. My ear was better before my sinus, and I’m not done with full course of the antibiotic yet). So I’m not saying jump to that, since it’ll mess with gut biome, too, but next time you’re sick and it’s something a broad spectrum antibiotic like that would help with, make that your visit to the doc for antibiotics and if they want to put you on anything see if they’ll do doxycycline. I didn’t ask for it, or think of its skin benefits, but right now I’m grateful.


Rowanever

>I’m allergic to peanuts. No manufacturer my doctors could find make batches without peanut. They claim it’s hypoallergenic peanut. Argh! How frustrating! Here it's mineral oil. My skin reacts to pretty much anything petroleum-based. I finally clicked that recurrent rest infections might be something I was effectively *doing to myself* because the ingredients list only included active ingredients. Do you have compounding chemists wherever you are, though? They're a special type of pharmacist who'll mix or measure medications to custom requirements. Super handy!


3233fggtb

It might be "highly refined" peanut oil when they say hypoallergenic. The process is supposed to remove the proteins that cause *most* people to have a reaction. I used to be allergic to peanuts but I was always able to eat food fried in peanut oil, which is usually the refined not cold pressed kind. 100% ask your doctor/allergist though, you may be different. It blew my parents mind when they found out. I remember finally eating food from the local fair for the first time. And fried catfish. And corn dogs.


librician

Malpractice means "bad practice." Which is correct. I don't think dude is gonna sue. But he can point out the job was badly done.


Dizzy_Needleworker_3

Sure at it's basic level you are correct, but I do feel like the word now has evolved to have a strong connotation towards being at the level of a lawsuit. Even in a more layman's term of "bad practice" i am not sure it rises to that level. It may not be the "best practice" but idk if it is "bad practice" maybe more like "okay practice."


Overcookedpotato123

random but i think its an acronym but what is IANAL bcuz now it js looks like ur saying you do butt stuff


Anxious_Reporter_601

I am not a lawyer


fire2374

It’s not. There are no damages. And depending on state law, it can be very difficult to prove. Most sane people in malpractice suits were either grievously injured or conned into it by a shady lawyer. IANAL


Ghitit

I had my ears cleared out my a doc and they said never to use Q-tips. I have done okay with that, but I do use them to get out shower water - not sticking them way in. But if your doc says it's okay for you, and it works for you, then that's fine. I'd not take advice from the internet before asking doc first. Everyone is different and you have a different situation with your ears.


cooldart61

My one ear is itchy on and off just a bit inside, my dr said to use Q tips as long as I was careful Apparently she had patients stick whatever objects closest to them to relive ear itchiness (pens, needles, knives, etc)


SeasonPositive6771

Malpractice isn't likely going to be something you can consider here. However, you absolutely should see another ENT. A lot of people make their air conditions way way worse by attempting to treat at home before seeing the right person / getting the right diagnosis.


AdEmbarrassed9719

Truth there. Also check out audiology associates on YouTube if you want to see the results of using q-tips - they pull some craziness out of peoples ears.


KathrynTheGreat

Yeah... My mom isn't an audiologist but she's worked closely with them in the past (she's an SLP) and she hates that I use q-tips anywhere near my ears. I don't use them to clean out wax but I do use them to dry water after a shower because I hate the feeling of wet ears lol. There are much better ways to get rid of earwax than using q-tips because those are just going to impact the wax even more.


GroundbreakingAd8798

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Coffee-Historian-11

I worked at a law firm that specialized in medical malpractice and you likely don’t have a case. Normally firms spend 50,000-100,000 dollars in proving a medical malpractice was committed and there has to be significant damage (such as a death or loss of function of a limb or something that should’ve been preventable). At most, you can file a completely with the medical board (or maybe the doctor’s office, that wasn’t my area). You can call around if you want, but no law firm worth their salt will be taking that case and you’re better off not wasting your time. IANAL but I was a receptionist and I was responsible for fielding those calls.


Lisaa8668

Not malpractice, but definitely bad advice. My ENT says to never put anything smaller than my elbow in my ear.


Total_Maintenance_59

Well, i used to use q-tips and had the opposite effect. I ended in the hospital with a very bad chronic ear infection and no earwax at all. The missing earwax was the reason for this. Well, since i stopped using q-tips my ears healed. Know i use a special Tool to clean my ears. Ohrenspritze 60 Ml, Ohrenreiniger, Ohrenschmalzentferner Mit Saugnapf, Ohrenspitze Zur Sanften Reinigung Von Ohrenschmalz Durch OhrenspüLung, Blau Glatt https://amzn.eu/d/dMTylM3


k9moonmoon

https://www.axelglade.com/ Ear pick with built in camera. Also useful for checking under cabinets if you drop stuff lol


MarkLeo6K

There are these spyral ear wax removers that are great. U just stick it in and twist it and it pulls out a bunch without pushing it more in. And u can replace the tips and wash em


Nienna000

Holy shit a doctor actually told you to use q-tips? Where I'm from all doctors tell you not to as its just pushing the wax deeper and can cause massive issues as everyones has said. Not to mention here all packets of q-tips actually have a disclaimer on them saying not to put them in the ear as they van cause damage or injury. Here if they do say use q-tips they mean only to clean the very outside of the ear, never in the ear canal.


PerkyLurkey

NTA and you’ve been given very important information. Tina is a pot stirrer, and someone who will use the ole “you are attention seeking” for legitimate concerns you have. She’s actually given you a gift. When she starts to behave the same way again, you get to say, “haven’t we already been down this road before?” and just look right at her face. Don’t look away. Don’t flinch, nothing. She should have the spidy sense to NOT want to look foolish again, and will probably leave you alone. The thing is, you need to be ready for it.


Needmoresnakes

Im so baffled about the "doing it for attention" argument. Of all the things to lie about for attention, excessive earwax? Thats like lying about painful farts of having overly sweaty hands. Who would want that attention?


Gaslighting-Survivor

The whole "doing it for attention" argument is so annoying. I'm hypoglycemic, so I've been accused of that. Yeah, I sneak off to the bathroom to eat food hidden in my purse "for attention." (insert eyeroll)


hummingelephant

>Tina is a pot stirrer Exactly. First he's "attention seeking" (which already showed her terrible personality) then when she was shown the truth, instead of apologizing she calls him names. She just wants a reason to make fun of OP because she is a bad person.


NakedAndAfraidFan

I really hope OP reads this.


[deleted]

NTA, Tina is a dick. But omg that sounds terrible 🤣 also "wasting money on qtips" like they're made of gold lol


kschurms

Legit a box of q-tips is like $5. Tina needs to get back in her lane


sassynickles

NTA. Tina's a jerk, and it's not even her concern. What, was she afraid the family fortune was being blown on q-tips?


Blonde2468

Her brother is a jerk too!! So immature for now calling her names!!


rapt2right

NTA I produce too much earwax, too, and many years ago had a boyfriend who chided me about my "Q-tip fetish"... so I switched for a week or so to using a sterilized bobby pin to "scoop" it out and showed him the daily accumulation. (I am looking up that kit, too, although 3 ENTs have okayed my q-tips & peroxide +steroid drops when needed)


geenersaurus

have you tried looking up asian ear picks/spoons instead of bobby pins? that doesn’t sound too safe because they’re a little short & could just push it in farther. My earwax is dry so it may be different if yours is the wet kind, but it’s usually just a metal or bamboo scoop you can use to gently dig wax out. Someone higher in this thread and suggested Clinere ear wax cleaners and they’re a similar shape but they also make some with tiny cameras in them now


Clifftop-Feeling

I second Asian ear spoons/picks! They’re super cheap, on Amazon, and are a godsend for removing both dry earwax (my partners kind) and wet (my kind, super over wax producer, to like gross YouTube video levels).


geenersaurus

weird question, but since your partner has dry earwax do you notice they have less body odor? the genes that create dry earwax also make it so that the same people don’t harbor the same bacteria that in their sweat that create BO and that’s why i always thought it’s hard to find deoderant in asia. I’ve only noticed it between myself & friends at the gym- it takes effort for me to build up any funky smells on my clothes vs another friend- but i often wonder if i am nose blind to my own smell haha


Clifftop-Feeling

It could be nose blindness, but I swear I get stinkier than my partner even when they forget to use deodorant. I cannot forget or I can really tell after a couple of hours. I’m not sure if it’s the same outside of Asia, but I swear I’ve heard similar about different ways people sweat as western vs Asian.


DoctorJJWho

Don’t know why doctors are suddenly saying Q-tips are okay for earwax removal, because they’re very much not. The company themselves says it’s not for earwax removal. Like the other commenter said, get an Asian style one (with a scoop) if the kit doesn’t suit you.


priapismLPN

NTA. You know your ears best and how often you need to clean them. But also…. DO NOT USE QTIPS IN YOUR EARS!!!! You are making the situation worse by packing the ear wax in. They make syringes with special tips or (f you can find it) spray bottles with special tips to flush that shit out. And old nurses’ secret liquid colace (stool softener- generic name is docusate) that you can use as drops to soften the wax for easier removal. If I had a dollar for every time I have to give the damn ear lecture…


Needmoresnakes

NTA "Wasting money on q tips" lmao. You could be eating those fuckers like sultanas and I doubt your annual qtip budget would exceed $25.


N3koChan21

That and the “Doing it for attention” argument. I don’t know much about this condition but I really doubt it means they can’t do things on their own I doubt they get extra attention


Embarrassed-Debate60

Of all the things, sultanas! Love it.


TinyManatees

NTA- she agreed to do it, you didn't force her.


definitelynotfbi13

NTA. I wince thinking about the pain you would’ve been in just to make a point, but what an eye roll to have them resort to spiteful name calling when they were proved wrong. Whatever happened to having some class and losing with grace … and having a little BASIC HUMAN COMPASSION for the obvious discomfort they now had no choice to admit that you deal with daily.


pdxfool

NTA. Tina is, though.


Few-Sheepherder-6383

NTA you made them feel uncomfortable, but also Tina made you feel this way when commenting on something that was not her business. Tina now is calling your names, well so much for empathy to your medical condition.


ThatsyAGurl210

Lmao no that's wonderful. I woulda gone further. Not an asshole


RaysUnderwater

So Tina abuses you because she can’t handle being wrong about her insults? NTA


Ghitit

NTA Tina, hopefully, has learned to mind her own business. You weren't petty at all. You saw an opportunity to teach her that not all bodies function alike. She will think twice before she comments on other people's bodies. Maybe.


ReallyTracyQ

NTA but childish. Why put yourself through the pain to prove a point? Silly. BTW I regularly use hydrogen peroxide in my ears to melt the wax. Inexpensive and recommended by an emergency room doctor I had to see one weekend because of the pain. I usually just pour some in while in the shower, with my head tipped sideways to hold it in. When it’s worked it’s way through I get a shiver. It’s how you know it’s working. 😉 otherwise the only thing I use tips for is when they are dipped in hydrogen peroxide for a quick wipe down. Good luck. And don’t do that to yourself again. You can be right without having to prove it.


secretrebel

I love the feeling of hydrogen peroxide popping and crunching away my ear wax. I wonder what kind of drops OP is using because that stuff is the bomb.


Aily333

ESH. She was obviously super obnoxious but dude why did you even need to let your condition get this bad to prove a point? I’d say you were an AH to yourself by caring about what others think more than your own health.


Ankchen

I wrote the same, and kind of shocking that you seem to be the only other person who made that point


BadBandit1970

NTA. Our neighbor is a nurse, so for the low-low price of a beer or cocktail, she'll come over and do ours. She brought us home a few syringes from her hospital too. I have much smaller ones purchased on Amazon in our travel kits along with a small vial of peroxide. Tina needs to learn how to MYHOB.


BasisNo1493

NTA They were judging you on something they had no knowledge on. You simply gave them your undeniable perspective on it.


fingermeplzz

nta but omg don’t use qtips you will damage your ears op!


itsmesilly9

This is weird. Who uses too much earwax as a way to get attention? I have no idea who to assign TA here. Weird


smoothpigeon2

I mean getting to a point where earwax is dripping out of your ear onto your shirt to prove a petty point leads me to think OP is an AH, not to this person (sis in law? who is clearly an AH) but to themself and everyone else who has to interact with them and see their earwax dripping from their ears, like, what. How do you walk around like that?


armedmommy

NTA


ninaa1

TF is wrong with your brother? Why didn't he explain to his gf about your issue? Why is he joining in on calling you names? Why do they both feel comfortable being AHs to you in your mom's house? Shame on both of them. NTA.


regus0307

Anyone wanna take a bet that Tina didn't apologise for her remark about attention seeking? No? She just moved on to insulting OP about a medical condition. Bet OP is absolutely thrilled to welcome her to the family.


Fit_General7058

Yta You never won anything but a painful, messy prize, and an unflattering nick name. Should have ignored and properly cared for yourself.


Mallieeee

I don’t think he’s TA per se, but I agree letting his ears DRIP ONTO HIS SHIRT is absolutely disgusting. Just do you, OP. Jesus.


xcataclysmicxx

NTA. People need to learn to shut their *FUCKING* mouths about the medical conditions of another, no matter how small or large. If you aren’t the one directly dealing with it, you should have zero commentary on the matter. Can you tell I literally had to deal with a similar issue last night? 😅


Dependent-Donut5428

NTA


OddDemand4550

NTA, i'm surprise your older brother who knew you your whole life was so oblivious to your condition. On a side note, have you tried those metal japanese ear wax removers with a spiral tip? Those don't push the wax further in like q-tips and give you a very satisfying scratch.


ComeCrumpWithMe

NTA, but a bit of a moron for allowing yourself to be in pain and discomfort to prove a point. As someone who suffers similarly, I wouldn't go to these lengths and would have just shrugged off the comments as insignificant.