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TrampSwaps

public service announcement: the pre-market thread is open


ChZakalwe

Lockdowns will continue until all desire for freedom is gone. XJO 6000


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ChZakalwe

Really? How low you have fallen...


InterestingShow1112

I shouldn't have been so happy with the green yesterday when market was red, today was -1.9%


Particular_Love_8811

+1.32. and that doesn't count my retarded trading so +1.32+%


Simonpink

Couple more days like that from IVZ and I’ll be able to buy back in.


Crumpy88

[https://www.salon.com/2022/11/28/florida-woman-sues-kraft-heinz-over-microwave-time-for-serving-mac-and-cheese/](https://www.salon.com/2022/11/28/florida-woman-sues-kraft-heinz-over-microwave-time-for-serving-mac-and-cheese/) Woman suing Kraft for misleading cooking times on its Mac and Cheese packaging for 5 million dollars


flatman_88

I mean ‘Florida Woman’ says it all really. Hillbilly has probably just watched the ‘Pepsi, where’s my jet’ doco and having a crack.


InterestingShow1112

Nestle will be next - "2-minute noodles" - lies, lies, lies


Comfortable_Fox1

My noodles say instant I want $5 billion for pain and suffering


Crumpy88

Turns out there's not sexy singles in my area that want to fuck me


Mother_Limit_1398

Im not female, but with a name like crumpy, im willing to help out.


TrampSwaps

This should be a class action lawsuit. We're all victims.


Blisser_the_Sniff

Page 2 luv


coastie_trader

If China is opening up does that mean we now get some lovely new Covid strains?? Asking for a friend. Also, go FMG


Qambi1

Did you write your thread while you were running bro?


coastie_trader

Sure whatever that means.


Comfortable_Fox1

Roasting the new peanuts


throw23w55443h

AGY i never doubted you...


Ruskiwasthebest1975

I fantasise about one day opening up my PF to be utterly overjoyed that IXR went for a run……… I really need to get a more realistic and achievable dream 😂


raindog_

mate.. I'd be delighted to see ANY FUCKING STOCK I own go for a big run. Just once.. just once I'd love to experience it.


destined2bepoor

Don't give up hope!!! CHN went from $16c to over $10!!! It can happen to you too! Dream, believe, achieve!


RandomVanBloke

Maybe 2023


insane9001

This feels like a recurring theme with RE stocks.. just 6 more months.. just another 6 months.. "Will be interesting to see where the SP is 12 months from now"


Sufficient_Guess2732

To be fair lithium was like this in 2016: PLS AVZ AJM (rip)


Ruskiwasthebest1975

Yeah im beginning to think rare earths is NOT the place to be……!


ChZakalwe

China doesn't announce the ending of lockdown this year, at the very least. One week ban if they do. u/mcfucking


Qambi1

I am waiting for your BF to respond


Crumpy88

I'm so conflicted China reopening will benefit me financially But a week without Chazaqua would be incredible


ChZakalwe

I'm hurt.


sneakycutler

Incredibly wholesome


BuiltDifferant

I’m willing to take the financial hit. 👋 chaz


Blisser_the_Sniff

Anyone got Xi’s number?


Crumpy88

08 8888 8888


ChZakalwe

Me.


mcfucking

🦄 noted


anomaly256

I want to give this 5 upvotes


Sunvmikey

MKR down 17% in one day God Dam that hurts. Will I ever get used to this pain?


Far_Unit9020

Doomed ticker


wallyone123

WhatDaShit


throw23w55443h

China reopening What moons what tanks? Obviously IO, Lithium and all that good stuff.


anomaly256

Everything I'm not holding will moon, everything I am will tank


FameLuck

Anything processable or consumable that's not an illegal drug will moon.


Mr_X2017

Is China pivot the new Fed pivot? Is it a transitory covid zero policy? Find out at 6pm.


throw23w55443h

It honestly is


Meaty0gre

What do they make batons out of? Probably that


FrankGrimesss

Thank God IHL will rocket now 🤡


throw23w55443h

Of course!


BeardFactory

Big day on the markets for me, I’m up 12c


EOFYday

$265 big ones here, pray that Tom doesn't change his mind in the final minutes of the trading day. Maybe i can afford a few tendies for dinner🍗🐔 after work.


BeardFactory

Nvm Barry got me before close and dumped $360


raindog_

LLL is deadset going to give me a heart attack one day.


premiumboar

What’s the go with LLL? Came so close to selling it today.


Crumpy88

LLL will look like the pattern on the EKG while you're lying in the hospital


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sneakycutler

First time really trying to time / predict the markets. Possibly about to get rick-rolled. Le Sigh.


sneakycutler

Woah BHP/FMG getting healthy greens. I might’ve been wrong about its SP performance 😑


Ruskiwasthebest1975

Well you never know what the rest of the day/week/year brings…..


sneakycutler

I said I “might be” 😋


throw23w55443h

Honestly BHP and Co arent shares you can make logical short term decisions about when they rocket 3% on an announcement of a press conference.


sneakycutler

_rocket_


FrankGrimesss

Deleted my comment to respond here, I was going to be snarky but I think the lesson has been learned 😬


sneakycutler

Time in the market beats … timing the market? Wazza B?


anomaly256

You were right for a minute


sneakycutler

A minute is all I need 💦


FameLuck

PWN up a pip 🎩 2 pips from freedom


BuiltDifferant

Why do we call it a pip?


FameLuck

"Pip" is an acronym for percentage in point or price interest point. A pip is the smallest whole unit price move that an exchange rate can make, based on forex market convention. Kinda lame, but i like the word


BuiltDifferant

I also like the word pip. Love how 1 pip can turn your folio green


FameLuck

That's why we play in the cess pool. 1 pip beats the bank


Blisser_the_Sniff

A PIP!? Get yourself a good hotel in Eastern Ukraine


throw23w55443h

Apparently theres a press conference in Beijing about covid in 3 hours. A bunch of shares, such as FMG, rallied on just the news of a press conference. Thats fuckin wild copium if i ever saw it. That said, should be solid news for most of the asx and lithium so coool.


anomaly256

I read they're considering back pedalling on zero covid and meeting protesters half-way. I am quite confused by this though as this isn't the response I'd expect from the CCP


maybethough

The rumour seems to be: "Beijing will soon announce a policy to officially end zero-covid by emphasizing the low fatality rate of new variants and the zero-covid policy has achieved a historical success in protecting people’s lives"


ChZakalwe

Rumours according to who? There is no way Xi and his yes men will back down on this. I expect mealy mouthed platitudes followed by further oppression. Beatings will improve until morale improves!


BuiltDifferant

We will Xi at 6pm


TrampSwaps

if true, u/sneakycutler is going to be mad about selling BHP


sneakycutler

My smooth-brain thought it was doing something. 😑


Meaty0gre

I bought it because you like Cramer. Money see, monkey do opposite, monkey profit.


sneakycutler

I dont like Cramer…


Meaty0gre

Yes you do. What about the poster of him above your bed


TrampSwaps

It seems like only an assumption, unless there's a leaky ship. It's just as likely CCP doubles down.


throw23w55443h

Its interesting that Hang Seng and China markets are deep green, I would expect they would have some indication. That said, we have seen positive rumors are a hell of a drug.


throw23w55443h

If you think the CCP are logical, and theres not reason so far to think they aren't at least somewhat. Most of these authoritarian regimes end up failing eventually to hubris. China actually has one of the more stable ones, this is because in general the lives of the citizens have been improving over the years. People can forgive a lot if their lives are getting better, and the ones whos lives arent are forgotten. Right now though, economy slowing, banks withholding money and peoples housing not being built and some losing deposits which are life savings - now being locked down and unable to work. Its taking all that progress away from a lot of people. Its a dangerous combination. The CCP may think that the protests are small enough, that they can backpeddle some of covid zero, while cracking down on protests and save face and make this all go away - the window for that is closing very quickly. They may also come out today with some more extreme measures...


anomaly256

Yeah seems like a bit of a wildcard to me. But the market is following the rumours so lets cash in on it


zupahorse

How much power does the ccp really have if the populous rushes zerg style?


Forlonius

Didn't work in 1989.


throw23w55443h

Big fat depends. It would need to be a really significant event to shake some loyal citizens. Much like Russia and other one party states - its a lot more complicated than just a population rising up, there are 'elites' and party inside pressures etc... e.g. They may backpedal covid zero because these elites dont want to deal with an uprising and are demanding it (crude example).


anomaly256

I dunno, maybe look at Myanmar and Russia for model scenarios


kervio

DNK due to release definitive sale agreement tomorrow (indicative). If they are not delayed could be interesting for a quick in and out either on the long side (if you believe in dreams) or short (if you are cynical and no longer believe in love or friendship). On a scale of one to moon, I give it two rockets 🚀🚀 and a cat 🐱


Sufficient_Guess2732

Yeah but what is your actual bet here?


kervio

I am long holding for arbitrage, but just wanted to flag that soon will be the news either way... so play it how you see it.


Sufficient_Guess2732

I'll be on the sidelines but appreciate the two rockets and a cat rating A+ for creativity


kervio

It's certainly not risk free, given the jurisdiction, but I reckon it'll move one way or the other once the news comes. Should be fun to watch.


FameLuck

Priced in


kervio

should have known ☹️


throw23w55443h

You know what i hate, fuckin hindsight, its a cunt. These retailers in June and even September were so stupidly cheap. I bought a little, but was so cautious - but hindsight, some of these companies might hurt earnings short term, but they were massive very obvious bargains even at the time, but when everything is doom and gloom its so hard to pull the trigger on big buys.


FameLuck

Fuck i don't know, hard to go back to using the rest view mirror after getting used to hind sight cameras. Maybe turn off the fisheye effect? I'll downvote myself to get started..


throw23w55443h

Fuck downvoting yourself, your worth it!


FameLuck

🥹


TrampSwaps

100% with you on that. I was waiting for WES to drop more, when I should have seen how good it was and averaged down, rather than trying to pick a bottom which was very unlikely to eventuate.


raindog_

I have a large buy order on WES at 40.00 It got to 40.03 fuck me.


throw23w55443h

If we get another big drop in Q1 like a lot of bears predict, I will definately not make the same mistake again i swear!


ProfessorJimHarris

RNU positive announcement, price drops. LRS positive announcement, price drops. IVZ chairman leaves, price increase. So now I wish the worst for my companies and the best for my portfolio


Ruskiwasthebest1975

“Buy the rumour sell the news” exists as a saying for a reason……..its very often what happens. But honestly be glad to be in something that even gives you hope instead of say…..VML or WWI 😂


prettyboiclique

I guess we found the answer to "was the PEPR priced in"


Denominator_K

Well Professor, it sounds like you now understand one of the key concepts of the market - no one knows what the fuck is going on.


ProfessorJimHarris

That's the correct answer. You get a distinction.


Denominator_K

Cant wait to show mum


Delicious_Smell_9254

I'm not a doctor but somethings is not right with loans. How can personal loans still be so cheap? Home loan rates are closing the gap fast. Warning! Warning! Bill Robertson.


AntiCGT

Some of the banks and financiers use their own money to lend so as long as their costs are low you are good to go. Most Aussie lenders seem to aim for 2-4% NIM (net interest margin).


Delicious_Smell_9254

Yeah I'm not looking for a loan. I was just checking up on things as I've still got a small amount trapped in [truepillars.com](https://truepillars.com) and used to have some in [plenti.com.au](https://plenti.com.au) too. Truepillars are still giving sub 5% loans to business, pre-covid I averaged 13%. I was smart enough to pull 99% out of it before their was a stamped for the door and they locked shit down. Anyway it was just an observation that the financial system isn't looking healthy if we are locking down on home loans while throwing out cheap as chips personal loans. Guess I'll have to refinance my home loan into a few dozen personal loans soon.


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Delicious_Smell_9254

\~6%


kangaroute

wasnyt it "will robinson"?


Delicious_Smell_9254

I said I'm not a doctor sheesh!


throw23w55443h

I wasn't super bullish on XRO short term, but it keeps bouncing toward that $70, if it can crack through it might make a run. I'd really love them to turn their H1 loss into a solid profit after how much the market ripped them a new one for their hubris. Marketing should be cheaper now with rates being cheaper, esp in UK and US. I'm cautiously optimistic this won't dump too much without some catalyst. EDIT: still not super bullish on the short term upside


letstestit22

fuck em and their subscription only model based in the cloud


throw23w55443h

probably more fuck their rent seeking app store


stonefree251

Reading this thread has definitely put me off opening my CommSec app.


RandomVanBloke

Mines pretty flat. Is okay.


throw23w55443h

I'm mostly green today!


TrampSwaps

I'm so glad I didn't post a picture of me wearing my SYA shirt, this sub would have crucified me. It's a good one to wear down to the RSL because it's collared.


hemimaori

FMG keeping my PF green all on its own.


coastie_trader

Yeh i know right. Who put a rocket up IO?


Xijinpooo

Is AKE under $13 a buy??


Competitive_Copy2451

I thought under $14 was a good buy. Narrator: It was not


TrampSwaps

Last week there was a lot of people exclaiming that AKE under $14 was a buy


Competitive_Copy2451

👋😥


steaming_ham

I just grabbed some, so probably not


nohorncap

sure is, 'cause I just did...


BillyZaneTrain

Starting to get pretty fucking grim at the moment. PF is down $49k (-31%) after a rough couple of months. I've taken some profits off the table recently which makes it look worse than it is, but it's bloody hard to look at. Anyone else getting fisted this bad by the resource sector?


Mahiyah

Mate I’m on a spit roast


Ruskiwasthebest1975

A right fisting here……double fisted Id say.


FameLuck

Yeah, same problem - always taking those profits and reinvesting so the red is the only thing reflected. Though I'm -57%. Too much BRK and WWI


BillyZaneTrain

Fuck that's hectic. Wishing you a speedy recovery in the new year!


amaznow

Im bored with fisting so have tried double. Still doesn’t feel good.


BillyZaneTrain

Lovely


poptartape

Can you stop saying bless the rains in Africa cause we don’t want no floods. Muma didn’t raise no fool I like my oil straight, without flood water.


anomaly256

But oil floats on top of water. If you flood africa then all the oil will float out of the ground and we can collect it cheaper


Hansanaw

Don’t forget LRS!!


FameLuck

Never forgetti... ^^^mom's ^^^spaghetti


InterestingShow1112

Sold out of NEA - not going any higher and out with profit (unlike the many unhappy HC posters). Replaced with VRC - been watching for ages, under recent CR, Twiggy backing Ukraine recovery (very long shot link I'm making), Graphite = good 🤷‍♂️.


FameLuck

Sounds ballsy.


InterestingShow1112

It's a bit pricy to my normal picks @ **$62m MC** 😂


FameLuck

Yup, that's pretty much boomer in my eyes.


InterestingShow1112

I also felt it was better here than in BPH - although will likely topup at 1.8


FameLuck

Gross. I'm looking to get back in too now, to sell at 2.7. set and forget


InterestingShow1112

My plan is to average down and then break even on the next news pump


bryanwilson999

Hangseng up 3.3%. What sorcery is this?


stromyoloing

China pivot and Ccp capitulation. All speculations


FameLuck

Quick poll. Tongue scrapers - yay or nay?


Church_of_FootStool

Nah fuck that


FameLuck

No, fuck you u/chzakalwe


ChZakalwe

No, fuck you!


Mysterious_Value_764

Tongue scraper? Nope, never heard of that.


FameLuck

Give them a go. Actual tongue scraper, not a brush with a 'tongue cleaner' in the back. It'll change your life, and you'll never feel clean again


TrampSwaps

Anyone here who doesn't clean their tongue is an absolute gronk. Like, I know we're all gambling degenerates with KFC grease stains down the front of our Lowes business shirt. But have some standards people, please.


BuiltDifferant

Gay? I use my tooth brush occasionally to give it a once over


FameLuck

Not the same, either are those bullshit toothbrushes with the tongue cleaner on the back. Give a stainless steel one a go - admit $2.30 from Ali-express. Will change your life


BuiltDifferant

[tongue scratched](https://youtu.be/Tkd9ycxCJBI)


BuiltDifferant

Tongue scratcher! Tongue scratcher


ChZakalwe

Fuck you fancy pants. I get my shirts from kmart.


anomaly256

just use steel wool like a real man


FameLuck

I don't want to accidentally mix it up with my ball scrubber.


anomaly256

toilet brush then?


FameLuck

The efficiency isn't lost on me


litres-of-cum

Yay, paint scraper does the trick.


FameLuck

Potato peeler


BeardFactory

Nay, they were a scam to sell more dental products


FameLuck

10/10 would recommend over a toothbrush if you could only have one or the other


BeardFactory

I will stick with my rusty spoon, thank you


cupnhandleq

IVZ There ya go...theres the great sp tank... -1 pip ya bloody retards...


throw23w55443h

Oh fuck me dead.... this is... something else https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/general-discussion-topics.5393993/?post_id=65048206


Church_of_FootStool

That is so fucking sad and regarded


Zaccyjaccy

I have this thought reading HotCopper, /r/ASX_Bets, and /r/Ausfinance comments in equal measure literally every day (but mostly I have that thought when I check my own portfolio)


Denominator_K

The type of person that makes their whole personality around the thing they're following. Like sportsball or trump or whatever the fuck


Competitive_Copy2451

I mean you can cover yourself in thousands of other brands and sport teams, why not? I would totally buy an IVZ one. Imagine the $1 party of your given stock where all the boys rock up in matching jerseys lol Edit - actually for real this is an untapped money making machine. Set up online shirt shop, make design for every popular stock. Promote em in all the hotcrapper threads.


FameLuck

T-shirt with a stock relevant mildly sexually suggestive dad joke - 💸💸💸💸💸 IVZ - "Try the second hole" 💸


yothuyindi

that's up there with the saddest things I've ever seen SYA holders are some of the worst people on the internet shame because the actual project/assets always looked pretty appealing


throw23w55443h

Honestly if you hold for like 20c or under, long term they have some lofty ambition that if they pull off would put them up there with the biggest guys around - but those people in the HC are fucked.


litres-of-cum

Worst thing about this shit is that money obviously does buy you happiness. So the more money i lose the less potential i have for finding happiness in life. Shalom 🧘🏻‍♂️


destined2bepoor

For sure. To some extent money buys you happiness, and more importantly time. Is a billionaire happier than a bloke with 100 mill? Who knows? Is a bloke with 100 mill happier than a bloke with 10 mill? Maybe. If I can get to a point where I can own a small acreage outright and have enough money to retire comfortably and see me out, it's probably not gonna make me any happier having 100 mill


Meaty0gre

I would think being ultra rich makes you less happy. If you’re worth say 10mill, buying a Ferrari would be a great still. If you’re worth 10 billion nothing would be a treat and nothing would be exciting to own after a while. Not that objects are the only thing that bring happiness but it’s one of them. Plus you wouldn’t know of your mrs was gold digging you or not if you’re worth billions. Most likely have zero proper relationships/friends unless also worth billions


destined2bepoor

For sure. I think a mortgage paid off and having enough to live on say 100k a year until I die would probably be the peak of happiness for me. Anymore I'm just leaving it to someone else to waste when I'm gone


SatansFriendlyCat

Yes, this is my aim as well, only in a better house - or even a similarly crap one, but with one more room and enough space around it for a touch of privacy (ie: your neighbours can't see your windows) and to not be able to hear any neighbour's FUCKING CUNT DOGS *in every room of my house*. I just want peace and privacy in my home, apparently this is greed these days.


Riskytraderrob85

Fuck I feel ya mate. I'm tormented by neighbours dogs - council will do fuck all about it. Looking to move to a larger block with no rear neighbours - a tall ask in Sydney


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Riskytraderrob85

My council don't do anything - we got attacked by a neighbour's dog on our own property. The council did fuck all. They were renting so at least I could hassle the real estate until they moved out on safety grounds for my wife and kid. All the other pricks own - I've had screening matches with the cunt who owns the German Shepherd a few doors down. Whenever I confront her she claims she can't hear her dog barking - well I can and I live 3 houses down! Unfortunately the take up of small crusty white dogs in my area over covid has been high - now all the owners are back at work they spend all day yapping... There should be tighter controls around dog ownership. I've thought about doing the worst a couple of times


throw23w55443h

Money buys you choices really, and for some people choices make you happy. I have seen many people though, when suddenly faced with these choices and freedom become miserable.


destined2bepoor

People say time can't be bought, well if you have enough to see out your days comfortably, you've just gained a minimum 40hrs a week until you die. Having the option to pick and choose if and when you work and have no debts or mortgage, life's easy