Same mate, ASN dropped but after the last recent run she probably needed to catch her breathe. Almost 6% down on the portfolio today.
Fingers crossed for a Friday bounce.
Too cheap to get our fucking act together. Ok for shitty toys in volume at Xmas, here's a fuck ton of shit, kiddies, going to fall apart tomorrow. We do care.
Ended a little up which was nice, but it was mostly two shares that kept me there.
My problem now is ive put all the capital in that I intend and my portfolio is about where I want it... so its very boring. I should probably keep an eye on uranium and bail if it pumps hard some more.
I also have ADH at a good price that I may bail on, even though I think its worth about $3-$3.20 a share, its probably gonna take a long time to get there and its one disaster away from losing.
The only green for me today is the undercooked chicken found in a wheelie bin that I'll have to eat for dinner.
Though I guess the wheelie bin is also a kind of green. yay?
If it's anything like the other dodgy oilers you need to work for a shell company held by one of the directors and receive payment in options because you're just that bullish.
I was until I gave in to temptation and checked my portfolio just then - I don't have balls but I imagine this is what it feels like to be kicked in them
I got heavily downvoted a few months ago which kinda made me think a pump was going on but look at SHPs 5 year chart. They fairly frequently have these big pump into dump and flatline occurances. Very little share price growth over many years with a suspicious story made me avoid
Ive come to accept that ill never get back the money i invested into AVZ. If only IXR and IHL could pick up the slack, thatll be great.
Also-- anyone know when EXR ops update? Its sept now
Updating my list of hilarious HC boomer stereotypes to include: boomers who feel the need to announce their departure from a forum like they're in a fucking airport
Holy moley, the SYA forum is absolute fucking garbage
This one from ARR Ann today... surely it's not the 0.4% grades.
"We need big buyers to get on board to bit those small traders. Is it possible that our sp has been suppressed by China."
Who/what to blame for your company's poor share price performance:
1. Shorters
2. Hedge funds
3. Paid downrampers
4. Nasdaq being down
5. Board of directors
6. AFR
7. New/reddit investors who are chasing 200% weekly returns
8. Obscure 3rd party
9. China (goes to 1 if RE's)
.....
(89). Yourself
I feel like my body has already internalised this. I try to nap on friday afternoons to avoid doing a 24hr day (uni in the morning and work overnight). Never works and I just end up lying in bed for an hour doing nothing.
Looks like DXS is taking a huge dump and is now cheaper on a per share relative basis compared to previous years.
Tier 1 office real estate will pretty much always be in demand and now trading well below NTA.
I might have a nibble.
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82% up on total portfolio purely because of IVZ and ASN. Would have bagged the portfolio this week if it wasn’t for IVZ being gagged by the Zimbabwe gov…
Probably could’ve researched this better but tbh confused asf, and praying for big gains next year
HECS and capital gains - if this year for example I’m -20k capital losses total, and next year (mind of autist dreamer) I got $40k capital gains for sold shares that I’ve held over a year, is their anything at tax time that will eat or want some of those gains immediately ? And do accountants fuck with you if they see you sold for deece gainz ?
My hecs is 45k :(
You will actually have to pay more HECS if you report capital losses.
[https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/When-must-you-repay-your-loan/](https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/When-must-you-repay-your-loan/)
It is a good strategy to prioritise gains over losses for this reason.
Your capital gains can be offset by losses of previous years. If your saying the the 40k CG is before applying the 12month discount then you'll only have 20k taxable capital gains. Which will be offset by the previous years loss. So $0 tax required to be paid.
Not an accountant so not financial advice, +don't trust strangers on the internet.
No idea about how HECS repayments are affected by capital gains sorry. ATO bunch of sea-unts though so it likely is effected
Close, but [ATO](https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/capital-gains-tax/calculating-your-cgt/) says to offset losses against gains *before* applying discounts.
So if you have $40k CG offset by $20k losses, you still have $20k of gains remaining, which you can then discount by 50%, leaving $10k gains to be taxable.
As for the HECS, it is payable defined by [repayable income](https://atotaxrates.info/individual-tax-rates-resident/hecs-repayment/#hecsrepayincome). Which is basically taxable income (in this case the $10k would be taxable), but you can't reduce it by contributing to super (lel), or negative gearing.
So if you had another stock held for a short amount of time that coincidentally matches the losses carried forward. You would be better off come tax time to sell both to become the amount discounted?
TBH man, I'm not 100% sure what you are asking. But in a hypothetical situation where you have losses, short-term CG, and long-term CG, I'd personally be trying to use to realise all the short-term CG's before realising any of long-term CG if possible. In the event that you were to realise both short-term and long-term CG's in the same year, I'm not sure if a.) you can actively choose to offset the short-term CG's first rather the long-term CG's, or b.) all CG's get mixed together and you only eligible to receive the proportional discount, you'd have to ask an accountant for info about that.
The 40k CG gets deducted with capital losses before any discount is considered. So ($40k gain - $20k loss from previous year)\*50%=$10k taxable capital gain.
Sauce: https://www.nab.com.au/personal/life-moments/manage-money/money-basics/capital-gains-tax
My only solace is that house prices in the area we’re looking to buy appear to be crashing faster and harder than our deposit is. Edit to add: all my SPQ paper gains from the last month have pretty much dissolved. This is why I usually don’t ignore the voice in my head that tells me to sell as soon as I hit 30% profit🫠
If you think things couldn’t get any worse in your life just remember there are dads out there who’s daughters have an only fans where strange old men are paying to watch them getting fucked by their drop kick boyfriend. Oh and the daughters making more money than the dad. I ain’t having kids.
Probably? I mean it's an extremely volatile stock. There will be an announcement to follow on from a second interview happening tomorrow which may change this.
Actually what I mean to say was SHUT UP YOU GALAH DOWNRAMPER!
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MNS letting its new CEO be the face of the company in upcoming ShareCafe webinar.
Guess they understand they need to refresh their image for a proper 🚀🚀🚀🚀 with future announcements.
Just happy that SP is holding in the 46-50c range so well during this news lull
Today is the day to get into LOV!!
I deliberately worded this similar to the uranium comment which got upvotes 🤣thankyou for confirming this sub is becoming an echo chamber of uranium and lithium stocks. Bring back BM7, might aswell call the sub asx mining small caps 🚀🚀🚀
You mean "don't hate the sheep, hate the hotcopper 2.0"
Because it's just a bunch of sheep spamming shit with only a few people actually providing anything of substance 🤣
Yeah because it's funny. I also explained why LOV was worth a look at as an earnings play and I used to post alot of DD, so I feel I should get a pass for spamming...especially when my spam won't affect a price if someone buys
The same sheep spamming uranium and lithium were the same sheep spamming fish guts, dw8 and all that shit... yet you don't hear from any of them now
So there's a small difference
JUST the expiry thing or options on the whole?
Expiry is just that. They expire. Like off milk. Cant sell them. They just disappear into the ether taking whatever you paid with them. They dont become shares.
You have to decide early enough if u want them and exercise them in a timeframe that allows some margin for paperwork. People forget to allow for that and miss out and lose their money just for that dumb reason.
One thing I've only just thought of, if said options expire worthless and 'your' holdings are now $0. Who hets the original money you paid to buy the options? Asx, asic commsec? Someones making money from non converted options and i want in
Conspiracy theory. But essentially they’re cashed up enough for now and have a very good resource. If they pumped the stock with good news everyone would exercise their options and dilute the company for only 3.5c. The company could wait and hold off and some people won’t exercise and then they can CR later for 8-10c maybe or even higher. I think they’ll pump good news after expiry and push as much as they can and try CR at like 15-20c to fund further exploration
GRR is a butt plug covered in lube, dipped in chilli powder and inserted sideways.
Well what was a grey day turned red - GFM?🤞
I got a fucking paddling
Same mate, ASN dropped but after the last recent run she probably needed to catch her breathe. Almost 6% down on the portfolio today. Fingers crossed for a Friday bounce.
Bought some ASN close to close in the hopes that it bounces in the AM. Yes, I’m dumb as fuck
Or a genius!
So crazy it just might work…
Who else thinks the Wanks (banks) are sitting too pretty compared to the rest of what we like to buy here and is due for a big pull back
CBA couple of years ago
Oh MAY why do you tease me with each announcement.
US government bans nvidia from selling certain chips to china. All good tho right
Excellent news for SNAS holders
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I read they banned them so they can’t use it for military purposes
Time for China to ban REs to the US 😈
Pfft the west will just make their own RE's in our impressive supercolliders. You might have to wait a while though.
Too cheap to get our fucking act together. Ok for shitty toys in volume at Xmas, here's a fuck ton of shit, kiddies, going to fall apart tomorrow. We do care.
Ended a little up which was nice, but it was mostly two shares that kept me there. My problem now is ive put all the capital in that I intend and my portfolio is about where I want it... so its very boring. I should probably keep an eye on uranium and bail if it pumps hard some more. I also have ADH at a good price that I may bail on, even though I think its worth about $3-$3.20 a share, its probably gonna take a long time to get there and its one disaster away from losing.
The only green for me today is the undercooked chicken found in a wheelie bin that I'll have to eat for dinner. Though I guess the wheelie bin is also a kind of green. yay?
Bin chicken
I’ll go you halves?
I like your bin-half-full attitude
How do I get a job on the Ivz drilling site..is there an age limit?
If it's anything like the other dodgy oilers you need to work for a shell company held by one of the directors and receive payment in options because you're just that bullish.
It is hard work being a drillers offsiders, not from.experience $116k P.a.
CAU about to have a fkn Phoenix from the ashes rise until the after hours orders fucked it.
Always funny on these bloodfest days my lil dog WWI always goes up a pip. Its my only green today 😒
Wait till you see the bloodshed of WW2!
Will there be a WW3?
NC1 my only green finish for the day... 🍋🍇
Worst day in months, literally 6x worse than yesterday. Fuck you IXR.
My best performer today is LOT in a Trading Halt. (Don't mention the impending CR)
Well did anyone have a good day
1.5%. not too shabby
I closed green. Not by a lot, 0.53%, but it's beating the market and green, so I will happily take it
I was until I gave in to temptation and checked my portfolio just then - I don't have balls but I imagine this is what it feels like to be kicked in them
I feel your pain. I'm feeling pain. This is fucked.
I hurt in places I didn't even know about
ANL
I knew about that
Do tell...
wrong sub
Yes.
0%. I feel this is a win today
Is SHP just on a forever downward spiral now? Think it's time to just cut my losses on this dog.
I got heavily downvoted a few months ago which kinda made me think a pump was going on but look at SHPs 5 year chart. They fairly frequently have these big pump into dump and flatline occurances. Very little share price growth over many years with a suspicious story made me avoid
shp dog
Pretty much.
I’m bleedin out
Rough day
I thought Muppets liked it rough...
Take your hands off me chaz!!
You know you want it...
I’ll never succumb …west is best
Pfft. No. When we come back put west, you lot better watch out...
Enough with the hand Chzakalwe
HMD Up nicely on good volume and no news?
Hold My Dick?
Anyone wanna teach me how to short the banks?
CMC. Warrants.
Go to warrants Go to equity puts Solve the rest, it's basically the same
yes citi mini warrants are an easy way of doing this
First of all you need to watch 'The Big Short', everything you need to know is explained in that documentary
Instructions unclear, dick caught in Burry
If i accept one of those collectable avatars, do i have to display it or can i stay without an avatar?
You can stay without and keep your large pee pee
Ive come to accept that ill never get back the money i invested into AVZ. If only IXR and IHL could pick up the slack, thatll be great. Also-- anyone know when EXR ops update? Its sept now
I'm coping that IHL will hit 0.6 or so after something gets officially released. At one stage people were confident about 1.0
IHL confident they will hit $1 with the piggy back options strike price being so next year.
Please, more please, I need more cope
They got money and plenty of projects that look like they are moving forward/going well so yay sweet copium
\+4% ex divy on a -1% red day 🚂☁☁☁
HIO is so fun to watch, never disappoints.
Updating my list of hilarious HC boomer stereotypes to include: boomers who feel the need to announce their departure from a forum like they're in a fucking airport Holy moley, the SYA forum is absolute fucking garbage
Can I ask please ... who’s leaving the SYA forum ?
Maybe they misread the name as the sayonara forum…
FYI I'm just going to take a dump, back in a moment.
This one from ARR Ann today... surely it's not the 0.4% grades. "We need big buyers to get on board to bit those small traders. Is it possible that our sp has been suppressed by China."
Always throw responsibility of your actions onto something else. Then when you have nothing else, blame China
Been my number one rule with RE's 😄 🤣
Who/what to blame for your company's poor share price performance: 1. Shorters 2. Hedge funds 3. Paid downrampers 4. Nasdaq being down 5. Board of directors 6. AFR 7. New/reddit investors who are chasing 200% weekly returns 8. Obscure 3rd party 9. China (goes to 1 if RE's) ..... (89). Yourself
Wifes boyfriend?
Market manipulators Hidden buyers Hidden sellers Goldman Sachs etc.
69. Pump and dumpers .. 420. Paerhands
One of my favourite stocks, but fuck me, absolute worst contributors in that forum. Probably tells me a lot more about me than I want to know.
On ignore you go!
They won’t get mine!!
Gosh darn bots again!
I was having a lightly red stonks day, then took a nap and everything is fuk. Never nap, my friends.
Your nap wasn't priced in
Hate when the market is on top of my sleep schedule like that....
I feel like my body has already internalised this. I try to nap on friday afternoons to avoid doing a 24hr day (uni in the morning and work overnight). Never works and I just end up lying in bed for an hour doing nothing.
If my portfolio can limp to -1.5% at close instead of -2% (currently -1.8%), I will be a happy camper.
God damn today is fucked. I'll check again tomorrow.
Goldie’s getting rocked!
The poor girl just isn't right.
Looks like DXS is taking a huge dump and is now cheaper on a per share relative basis compared to previous years. Tier 1 office real estate will pretty much always be in demand and now trading well below NTA. I might have a nibble.
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WHC probably gunna finish green despite going ex dividend. You beauty
choo choo - all aboard the WHC train 🤰🏾
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This calendar year or financial year? DOESN'T MATTER I'M UP IN BOTH MFKERS 🙌
Legend
82% up on total portfolio purely because of IVZ and ASN. Would have bagged the portfolio this week if it wasn’t for IVZ being gagged by the Zimbabwe gov…
CY: 28.49% FY: 40.00% 🤰🏾
Show of hands who is too scared to look to find out? 🙋🏻♀️
🤚 Just, good old Uranium
Same, all my U are glowing green
10% up
Probably could’ve researched this better but tbh confused asf, and praying for big gains next year HECS and capital gains - if this year for example I’m -20k capital losses total, and next year (mind of autist dreamer) I got $40k capital gains for sold shares that I’ve held over a year, is their anything at tax time that will eat or want some of those gains immediately ? And do accountants fuck with you if they see you sold for deece gainz ? My hecs is 45k :(
You will actually have to pay more HECS if you report capital losses. [https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/When-must-you-repay-your-loan/](https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/When-must-you-repay-your-loan/) It is a good strategy to prioritise gains over losses for this reason.
They aren’t referring to capital losses. Just losses that directly affect your tax losses such as NG, margin loans, etc.
Ah okay. Thanks for the correction.
Your capital gains can be offset by losses of previous years. If your saying the the 40k CG is before applying the 12month discount then you'll only have 20k taxable capital gains. Which will be offset by the previous years loss. So $0 tax required to be paid. Not an accountant so not financial advice, +don't trust strangers on the internet. No idea about how HECS repayments are affected by capital gains sorry. ATO bunch of sea-unts though so it likely is effected
Close, but [ATO](https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/capital-gains-tax/calculating-your-cgt/) says to offset losses against gains *before* applying discounts. So if you have $40k CG offset by $20k losses, you still have $20k of gains remaining, which you can then discount by 50%, leaving $10k gains to be taxable. As for the HECS, it is payable defined by [repayable income](https://atotaxrates.info/individual-tax-rates-resident/hecs-repayment/#hecsrepayincome). Which is basically taxable income (in this case the $10k would be taxable), but you can't reduce it by contributing to super (lel), or negative gearing.
So if you had another stock held for a short amount of time that coincidentally matches the losses carried forward. You would be better off come tax time to sell both to become the amount discounted?
TBH man, I'm not 100% sure what you are asking. But in a hypothetical situation where you have losses, short-term CG, and long-term CG, I'd personally be trying to use to realise all the short-term CG's before realising any of long-term CG if possible. In the event that you were to realise both short-term and long-term CG's in the same year, I'm not sure if a.) you can actively choose to offset the short-term CG's first rather the long-term CG's, or b.) all CG's get mixed together and you only eligible to receive the proportional discount, you'd have to ask an accountant for info about that.
Ah cheers, I'm sure when it comes to it should be able to find an answer. Only did one sale for the last financial year for a loss to be carried.
Awesome thanks for clarifying! Can't wait to make some gains for this to be applicable
The 40k CG gets deducted with capital losses before any discount is considered. So ($40k gain - $20k loss from previous year)\*50%=$10k taxable capital gain. Sauce: https://www.nab.com.au/personal/life-moments/manage-money/money-basics/capital-gains-tax
Correct, the discount get applied after offsetting against the losses.
Oh! Really!? Shiiiit This is why I'm not an accountant and you shouldn't trust my assessments of the situation 😂
Cheers bro !
I'd worry about this when, and if, you actually makes money. This is like if I'm worried about getting STDs.
Lmao! Fair
ANZ share investing is switching to CMC Markets in October, just got an email. Looks like a positive step in terms of App, UI and fees.
Was i supposed to have done my taxes by now? They're really complicated.
31 Oct or potentially 5 June 23 if you have a tax agent
Thank you!
I know I owe at least $3.5k to my HECS from my cap gains so I am putting that shit off until the end of the month
lodge it and get a nice lil payment plan to direct debit. ez pz
Yup that's the plan. Still not going to lodge it until the last possible day. Even considered getting an accountant to be able to lodge next year
yeah as an accountant - our final lodgement date is 5 june next year.
Ow! My balls!
My only solace is that house prices in the area we’re looking to buy appear to be crashing faster and harder than our deposit is. Edit to add: all my SPQ paper gains from the last month have pretty much dissolved. This is why I usually don’t ignore the voice in my head that tells me to sell as soon as I hit 30% profit🫠
I'd happily watch my portfolio crater to $0 as long as property speculators also get fucked.
Hahaha I’m with you! I can handle bleeding if it means landlords are bleeding too!
that LOT chart is a rocket up and the nek minnit it leaves TH its gonna make for a beautiful descent
It was already spelled out in the last quarterly, so for whoever felt like they got caught out, you might need to learn to read...
Fuck. Fuck. [Fuckkk.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6pE88Xg3s)
Amazing scene. 👏
Exactly what I wanna say
You can say it on the internet, there are no cops here.
[fuck shit piss](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0zDveKs7uZE)
If you think things couldn’t get any worse in your life just remember there are dads out there who’s daughters have an only fans where strange old men are paying to watch them getting fucked by their drop kick boyfriend. Oh and the daughters making more money than the dad. I ain’t having kids.
link? lol. i was gunna say 'proof r ban'
I'm grateful both to the daughters and to the fathers.
ASN why no green?
I sold out - so if it rockets tomorrow, you can thank me
Thank you for your service 👍
IVZ going back to Cap raise price??
Probably? I mean it's an extremely volatile stock. There will be an announcement to follow on from a second interview happening tomorrow which may change this. Actually what I mean to say was SHUT UP YOU GALAH DOWNRAMPER!
I’ve never seen a stock not hit CR price afterwards
If I remember right IVZ didn't, back in (I think) early 21 or late 20
I have! It happens sometimes.
Yes sometimes, normally when it’s a CR because they were approached by a valuable party and they have exceptional news to follow
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Might even go lower
MNS letting its new CEO be the face of the company in upcoming ShareCafe webinar. Guess they understand they need to refresh their image for a proper 🚀🚀🚀🚀 with future announcements. Just happy that SP is holding in the 46-50c range so well during this news lull
Me to my meme stocks: No, no. Dump up, stupid.
Any holders of POS care to give me the TLDR of why that company is barely moving? Are management just shit?
The answer is in the name
I eat Pieces Of Shit like you for breakfast.
I thought that too 😂😂
Waiting to get back into the market in this economy feels like waiting to plug a patient's life support back in 6 months after their funeral... ☠️
Bear!
rawr xD 🌈🐻
Today is the day to get into LOV!! I deliberately worded this similar to the uranium comment which got upvotes 🤣thankyou for confirming this sub is becoming an echo chamber of uranium and lithium stocks. Bring back BM7, might aswell call the sub asx mining small caps 🚀🚀🚀
\^\^didn't buy lithium or uranium\^\^
May BM7 forever live on rent free.
He was a shit troll, but he was our shit troll. One day he will GRR again 🤞
Those dudes pumping ☢️ are mostly suspiciously new low karma accounts. They will hopefully be gone soon. Lithium is pretty great though..
I've been pro uranium for about 6 months. Got the Karma to back it up ;)
Dont hate the players hate the game
You mean "don't hate the sheep, hate the hotcopper 2.0" Because it's just a bunch of sheep spamming shit with only a few people actually providing anything of substance 🤣
The hate is strong in this one...
Dude you have like 10 low effort LOV posts in the last 24 hours lol
Yeah because it's funny. I also explained why LOV was worth a look at as an earnings play and I used to post alot of DD, so I feel I should get a pass for spamming...especially when my spam won't affect a price if someone buys The same sheep spamming uranium and lithium were the same sheep spamming fish guts, dw8 and all that shit... yet you don't hear from any of them now So there's a small difference
As someone who has financially benefited from Taco's spam, I say God speed sweet prince.
You clearly didn't buy ses then 🤣
Sometimes you catch the knife. Sometimes you dodge the bullet... ❤️
Another teasing MAY announcement
They’ll do fuck all until after options are gone
Can you ELI5 that. I dont under the options expiry thing.
JUST the expiry thing or options on the whole? Expiry is just that. They expire. Like off milk. Cant sell them. They just disappear into the ether taking whatever you paid with them. They dont become shares. You have to decide early enough if u want them and exercise them in a timeframe that allows some margin for paperwork. People forget to allow for that and miss out and lose their money just for that dumb reason.
One thing I've only just thought of, if said options expire worthless and 'your' holdings are now $0. Who hets the original money you paid to buy the options? Asx, asic commsec? Someones making money from non converted options and i want in
yeh, good question. Surely the question who offered the options gains or losses at expiry.
Yep i just worked it out. The person you buy them from gets the money. I'm a dumbass
Gets*
Conspiracy theory. But essentially they’re cashed up enough for now and have a very good resource. If they pumped the stock with good news everyone would exercise their options and dilute the company for only 3.5c. The company could wait and hold off and some people won’t exercise and then they can CR later for 8-10c maybe or even higher. I think they’ll pump good news after expiry and push as much as they can and try CR at like 15-20c to fund further exploration
Only 3 of my stonks are green, all lithium