It's a very American idea to do it without medical or religious reasons too. In Europe its uncommon. It's strange to think it's considered normal/natural over there. There are some countries where female circumcision takes place, but its always referred to as 'genital mutilation' by people in the US.
Its genital mutilation for both genders
Yeah, that was my point
And it should be illegal if you ask me
But its not? One is cutting out the clitoris which is covered in highly sensitive nerves while the other is cutting flat skin with significantly less nerves. The equivalent would be if the tip of the head of the penis was cut. However, its not.
Still is for barbarians
What makes you say that though?
Removing a body part for no reason
Its not an entire body part that is being taken off, male circumcision would be equivalent to getting one's earlobes trimmed off
which shouldnt happen ether
Im not saying it should, im implying that it is not overly detrimental.
It should be illegal to have cosmetic surgery
As the owner of a circumcised penis, I don’t think you get to decide that my penis is mutilated.
Theres female cirsumcisions?
What if it’s for a medical reason? I had my foreskin removed because it caused infections
Well then it had to be done and voids the protocol for barbarian behavior
Why do you find it barbaric?
Because its removal of a naturally provided piece of ones self for no reason
Would you be less friendly or accepting to a circumcised person if they did it due to culture?
No as I believe all men and women should follow there culture weather I agree or not doesnt matter
This is an interesting question. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that no, I won't be friendly to certain people due to their culture in order to keep the peace. I see this as positive discrimination. For example, cultures that discriminate against women, not allowing them to go to school, or forced marriages for 12 year old girls. So although there are some examples where's it's easier to say people should follow cultural norms, there's many examples of where we shouldn't.
Does that apply to child brides or female genital mutilation?
I have no say in any culture that isnt my own as muvh as i hate both of those things
Where are they following them and what is "culture weather?"
Like for example I know what you mean by "Grammer Nazi," you mean Grammar Nazi, but idk what "Culture Weather" is, I'm legit asking.
Yea but what is "Culture weather?" I thought this was an AMA.................? Or do you not know what that stands for?
I meant whether stupid
There's misspelling something and then there's whatever the hell you're doing. It's intelligible.
Maybe it’s barbaric to remove wisdom teeth and tonsils as well?
Also it’s not for no reason, according to WebMD
There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:
Less risk of urinary tract infections
A reduced risk of some sexually transmitted diseases in men
Protection against penile cancer and a lower risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin)
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location)
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.
All this time, I didn't realize I was mutilating my hair.
Then do you think tattoo/piercings/cosmetic surgery is equally barbaric? If not, how come?
Tattoos are different i still dont like them but yes the others are all filthy
it’s for hygiene and health reasons
I was circumcised as a kid, and restored my foreskin as an adult. I have been much more sensitive and sex is so much better I cannot even describe the difference. I wish I had never been mutilated by my parents and the doctors.
Circumcision is one of the most disgusting and barbaric things any adult could force on a child.
Good to hear you had yourself repaired
Reading through your comments You’re a complete troll unable to have a valid two sided conversation so I feel bad even chiming In.
But I’ll at least make mention that I was circumcised at the age of 12 due to medial reasons and I would 100x over rather have gone through it as a baby than someone who was almost a teenager. That shit was absolutely horrible.
26 now and the general consensus with the women I’ve slept with is that they think it looks better, and it’s also easy to keep clean. Win win for me.
If we swap the gender it becomes genital mutilation rather quickly and that’s done under the same arguments. Society puts a lot of pressure on people to fit in and do what’s considered normal even if it’s cutting skin off a babies penis.
All my children are circumcised.
Is it a cultural thing
No. I just don't have any.
Ok captain foreskin
I actually wash myself
You’re just mad you don’t get to keep yours in a cool little bag
Mine was taken as a baby, honestly I'm thankful, uncut is just unattractive to me.
Nope. I think it’s 1000% worth it and not barbaric. I’ve taken care of so many elderly men with issues attributed to their foreskin. So it’s not just “children under 2” like someone else mentioned. Also my brother had major issues with foreskin problems until he hit puberty.
This thread is a boggling display of OP’s flexibility of use for the word Barbarian.
So do most people who don't live in North America
I was circumcised and I never knew that foreskin even existed until I was 13, it never really had much effect and my dick looks completely normal
No one wants to look at a gross elephants trunk- sorry bud
What a very odd hill you decided to die on. Have fun!
My parents had me “topped” as a child, and it was completely normal. Never knew or cared that it happened. Wasn’t for religious reasons, just common as a hygiene thing.
That said, my son was recently born and we left him natural. If he wants to get it done later, his choice.
But of course female circumcision is something totally different and abhorrent.
I have noticed that very young circumcised babies have a strange spacey look in their eyes probably from the traumatic experience of the shock and pain of having part of their dick cut off shortly after entering this world.
Its infant torture
I’m curcumsised and I like it because it stops me from peeing on my pp. Why do you think it’s barbaric?
It removes a part of the human body
I wholeheartedly agree unless the person getting circumcised is a consenting adult.
Many people don't know the creepy, pseudo-religious origins it has in North America - there is factual evidence that shows it was initially intended to prevent male masturbation by dulling pleasure and thus preserve what people back then believed was "sexual purity". There is a certain arrogance in believing that the American healthcare system knows of all these "medical" benefits that other first-world nations with modern healthcare systems and access to clean water don't. If it had overwhelmingly positive medical benefits with minimal consequences like the American healthcare system tries to say, it would be routinely practiced in all of Europe too but it is not. Generations of men were not circumcised as babies in Europe and the last time I checked, it is not a continent plagued with millions of men having horrific, life altering penis problems.
What country are you from?
Nice. You guys are another great example of an advanced healthcare system that doesn't practice it. We here in North America are led to believe that the foreskin is a worthless piece of skin that only exists to cause men problems, it's disgusting.
How many people have you heard of around you having these "terrible health problems" with their foreskins that we over here are told about at nauseam?
Glad to hear. I was born and circumcised as a baby the very year they started making parents pay out of pocket for it here in my country. Our lack of awareness and blatant disregard for medical facts on the subject to this day is disgusting but neonatal circumcision rates are steadily declining as information is becoming more widely available via the internet. Not too long ago, many people around here believed it was something that every developed country was doing because of the "obvious medical benefits". They assumed leaving men intact was only something poor countries with minimal medical knowledge or weak/underfunded healthcare systems did. Ironically, that is the opposite of reality in many cases. That is changing thankfully. If I ever have a baby boy, he will not be circumcised. I don't have the right to make that decision for him nor do I want him to go through something so horrific during a time when he is supposed to be bonding with his parents, not recovering from a surgery he didn't even need that will have physical and potentially mental implications on him for the rest of his life.
Sorry for the rant, this topic strikes a chord with me like no other.
Japan absolutely hates circumcision
As every country should.
Japan doesn't like many things from the outside obviously so we don't have to worry about it
What is the upside of circumcision? I’ve heard it’s to not have to clean under the foreskin or something.. but that’s all I’ve heard. I had no idea people did that until we had to learn about it in school-
I'm intact. But I don't think it is necessarily barbaric. Male circumcision is a valid medical procedure that bring many benefits.
That being said, I don't think it is necessary unless there is a medical need for it.
There is no benefit to removing a piece of yourself
Yes there are. For the very minimum, it makes hygiene maintenance much easier.
It makes life easy for the lazy man who doesnt deserve an easy life
While it’s fine to have an opinion about this, you need to make sure you aren’t spreading misinformation as you are here.
These are two credible sources that explain how circumcision can reduce infections from HIV and other STDs. So yes there is a medical benefit. I’m not saying everyone should be circumcised, but we need to share the real information instead of half the story.
Circumcision is fucking grim IMO, literally forcing babies before they have any control of their lives to have their cocks severed...
Not a question. I agree with you. It’s the same as Female Genital Mutilation. Leaves the genitals of children alone you sick fucks.
I don’t know. I never knew mine and really love my penis now
Dont understand it at all. Maybe back in the day or areas of the world where they were washing infrequently but if you shower everyday or multiple times a week its not hard to keep yourself clean. Just seems like an old tradition that people keep following because thats what humans do. I dont care either way what people do but nobody is cutting any part of my future kids dick off thats for sure. Sounds like an ancient excuse for the catholic pedos to normalize messing with kids genitals.
It shouldn't be practiced at all
If i was a ruler then i would have all authority
Do you think plastic surgery is barbaric?
Do you find it barbaric when a fully grown adult man wants a circumcision, or just when it's done to infants?
Well yes to both
So you're just against any form of body modification surgery even if it's on a consenting adult?
Do you also have this strong of feelings about other religious traditions? For example Baptism?
If you find circumcision barbaric what are your thoughts on gender reassignment surgery also called a sex change?
I am against all cosmetic surgeries indiscriminately and as for religion it is apart of ones culture weather i believe it or not so i cannot hate a religion
So, you are against adults being able to change their own bodies?
I'm sorry perhaps I didn't word one of my previous questions correctly.
Circumcision is a cultural tradition in the Jewish faith, you've said it's barbaric. Do you also feel other religious traditions are barbaric such as baptisms? Or do you just take issue with circumcision?
I am against changing a body yes as a body is a gift that should be appreciated not changed as well with your second question i only have an issue with circumcision and not because of any religious reason
So I'm guessing you're against the existence of trans folks.
I do not hate anyone i just think people should get the help they need and it should be available to them
Help in what ways?
Get them to realize which one they are
But what if help means transitioning? People that transition if they are gender dysphoric are way less likely to commit suicide. I consider that much more important than what is "natural."
Just saying, please try to be understanding of them. I'm not saying you aren't, but they want to live their best lives too! :)
Is there any reason you don't think an individual should have control over their own physical body?
You said "it is a gift to be appreciated" but what gives you the right to decide what someone does with their own gift? For example if I'm given a car by a friend, and the car is blue, but I want it to be red, so I have it painted red. Am I now not appreciative of the car?
The gift of gods is beyond the scope of a gift a mortal could ever give in modifying our bodies by any means we insult the gods and nature around us more so then fossil fuels and technology ever have
You are taking God as an argument, even tho it's highly likely he doesn't exist. That is BS. You just don't have any arguments why grown adults shouldn't change their body's...
Yep, I think nobody should live how they want to live even tho they don't hurt anybody else because a fictional entity, for which existent are no proves, says no.
Shut up atheistic barbarian
Fair enough, I disagree with you but I appreciate you taking the time to explain your thought process.
I maintain my traditions from a thousand years
May I ask your opinion on gender reassignment surgeries then?
Should be illegal
I disagree; trans people are (I believe the statistic is) 4 or 5 times more likely to commit suicide than a cisgendered person, and surgery helps with that.
And that should be my problem? As a leader its still illegal i dont care if your delinquent enough or not you are what you are born as
If someone wants surgery because they’re unhappy with the way they look then who gives a shit? It doesn’t affect anyone else but them and if it makes them happy then go for it.
You seem progressive
Did you really just take an extremely popular opinion on Reddit and turn it into an AMA?
Its popular with my people
Who/what specifically is responsible for non-religious circumcision becoming “a thing”? I think that’s a good place to start. The reason this argument seems to float around so much is that opinion alone isn’t enough to come to a consensus.
Doesn’t it make it easier to spot anything wrong with the penis? I don’t have my foreskin and my brother does and my mom has said before you gotta like check under the foreskin regularly since you can’t see the penis directly
For babies and children? Absolutely, especially if it’s for invalid or religious reasons.
If there’s a genuine medical reason, say acute phimosis for example, then it’s a valid procedure.
I don’t know any circumcised barbarians.
Its not something people write about but a note Mongols are barbarians and they outlawed circumcision
my son was born less than 40 hours ago. his mother and i both agreed that it is ~~essentially~~ genital mutilation and said no thanks
Is it possible to get your foreskin restored after circumcision
I have no idea how this stuff works
Yes it is
How? Do you take hormones or something
A quick surgery
All I want to know is *why* people do it. The foreskin has a lot of reasons for existence
Just a friendly reminder that lip grafts are foreskin! (Or at least some)
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imo, i think it should just be left up to the person until they are old enough to decide an infant has no say in the situation, therefore, shouldn’t be circumcised so young an adult that can fully decide what they want to do with their body and understands the risks/side effects should be allowed to do so|I still would say thats as barbaric as genghis khan and his mongol army|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnk973/)
Why do you find it barbaric?|Because its removal of a naturally provided piece of ones self for no reason|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnhfwf/)
Do you think plastic surgery is barbaric? Do you find it barbaric when a fully grown adult man wants a circumcision, or just when it's done to infants?|Well yes to both|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnhbwi/)
What if it’s for a medical reason? I had my foreskin removed because it caused infections|Well then it had to be done and voids the protocol for barbarian behavior|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnk5va/)
I was circumcised as a kid, and restored my foreskin as an adult. I have been much more sensitive and sex is so much better I cannot even describe the difference. I wish I had never been mutilated by my parents and the doctors. Circumcision is one of the most disgusting and barbaric things any adult could force on a child.|Good to hear you had yourself repaired|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnjhee/)
I lack logic in your opinion. I deduce that it's based on your very religious background. You accept circumcision if made because of religion reasons (which sound barbaric to me) but you don't accept it while done by a free choice of an adult to himself. You're also against plastic surgery because modifying body is bad. So, is training bad? (as it changes your body) Is nail clipping also bad in your opinion? Cutting hair?|You are cleary a progressive of society and lack logic|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnpycb/)
i got a circumcision when i was 26, of my own volition, bc my foreskin was too tight for sex. since it was local anesthetic i can attest that its barbaric (bit of a mistake to watch the procedure, yeesh) but i think it has some advantages|?|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnqowk/)
It's a very American idea to do it without medical or religious reasons too. In Europe its uncommon. It's strange to think it's considered normal/natural over there. There are some countries where female circumcision takes place, but its always referred to as 'genital mutilation' by people in the US.|Its genital mutilation for both genders|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnqt54/)
It's not always a choice, otherwise the foreskin will get torn apart because it can't stretch anymore, idk about you but I'm pretty sure id pick surgery over that|My foreskin is perfectly fine|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnrxk4/)
What is the upside of circumcision? I’ve heard it’s to not have to clean under the foreskin or something.. but that’s all I’ve heard. I had no idea people did that until we had to learn about it in school-|Laziness|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcns0ww/)
Keep your brain 🧠 outa my foreskin|Our 2nd brain is down there anyway we use it more well some do|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnslgi/)
Ok captain foreskin|Problem?|[Here](/r/AMA/comments/pn7tym/i_think_circumcision_is_barbaric_ama/hcnstqq/)
I kind of agree. If you are doing it for religious reasons, that’s your choice. But in the USA they tend to just do it as routine, unless the parents specifically request to opt out. Now, for parents with uncircumcised boys, there’s some “extra” hygiene you”ll have to do to ensure your boy doesn’t get a yeast infection (and that nasty sticky waxy smegma) in between the folds of his fore skin and the head of his penis. Most American doctors will tell you it’s because of tradition and for hygiene issues. But you can opt out. I feel like in America it’s probably a holdover tradition from our Jewish and Christian forefathers. But in modern society, I don’t think circumcision is really needed, unless it’s a reflection of your faith.
That being said. My oldest and youngest nephews were circumcised , and my sister was ok with that. But my middle nephew was born with so little fore skin that the doctor didn’t feel comfortable removing it. It would literally make no difference in hygiene concerns, and was not likely to cause my nephew to be bullied for the appearance of his penis. So she opted out of having him circumcised.
I’ve never heard the boys pick on my uncircumcised nephew, so I have to think everything is ok with his equipment.
Circumcision should be an option not a norm you have to specifically opt out of.
imo, i think it should just be left up to the person until they are old enough to decide
an infant has no say in the situation, therefore, shouldn’t be circumcised so young
an adult that can fully decide what they want to do with their body and understands the risks/side effects should be allowed to do so
I’m circumcised and there’s really nothing wrong with it. No side effects or anything like that 😂 but then again it is really up to people to choose for themselves. I got mine at a very early age (not religious) and I ain’t complaining but I think people need to reach a reasonable age to decide for themselves whether they wanna be circumcised or not.
It's not always a choice, otherwise the foreskin will get torn apart because it can't stretch anymore, idk about you but I'm pretty sure id pick surgery over that
My foreskin is perfectly fine
That's pretty ignorant
Projecting your experience onto others and generalizing it invalidates the fact that not everyone had the same experience.
It is. And the argument that it's more hygenic that way lol. Feet can stink as well if you don't shower too often and I don't see people amputating newborn's legs because of that
The thing that gets me on reddit is the "it should be illegal " thing. Not everyone is like you the world is a big place.
We all have ourboen kingdoms and empires i cant count Republics as nations but
I'm glad it's not common in Europe. I've never seen a circumcised dick. I always find it weird when it shows up in porn.
I never look at penis in porn lol
Living the barbaric life over here.
But candidly, the prostate cancer had a much more barbaric effect on o’dick. lol.
For medical reasons is ok, but some men (strangely) think they will look less masculine if they don't do that.
Dunno. Some stupid reason. Never seen it in Brazil.
Brazil is more civilized then the United states i would say
No kidding about it being barbaric. After I had mine done I couldn't walk for almost a year!!
What might you say to someone who has been circumcised?
What i say to everyone else
So you also think gender altering surgical operations are barbaric as well?
Agreed. If someone chopped of my cliteral hood, id be fuckin pissed
It is, but it makes it look like a pig in a blanket.
There is a reason every porn star is circumcised.
Why don’t just say that you are scared?
I am circumcised. it is barbaric.
No question - you're 100% right.
What’s your favorite cheese?
do you like silent hill 4?
I liked the first game
I want my foreskin back
lmao you should stop watching porn
Actually i agree
i got a circumcision when i was 26, of my own volition, bc my foreskin was too tight for sex. since it was local anesthetic i can attest that its barbaric (bit of a mistake to watch the procedure, yeesh) but i think it has some advantages
In the depends on the reason a person get circumcised and it depend how this happens.
Religious motivations? it's questionable.
Does it happen in private or inside a hospital with medical professionals?
AMA I think my opinion holds validity on every subject I have an opinion on
I'm glad my parents chose to mutilate my ding dong.
I agree with you, and I had my foreskin until I was 22. I had a medical condition called phimosis and mine was pretty severe so I had to have it cut. For me it was a godsend, just being able to pee correctly has changed my life. I don’t think it should be done at birth for no reason, but I’m glad it exists for when it’s medically necessary.
When medically necessary it is not bad
I did prefer the feeling of sex when I had it and it worked correctly, but for me the sensitivity is about the same since the glans was covered for 2 years anyways.
As a someone who is born in a muslim majority country. I was circumcised without my ocnsent in the age of 6. Therefore, i can easily tell that its barbaric. Just because it is written in the quran the consent of the kids are not taken.
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Id rather burn my eyes out
sure mate go watch loli porn
id rather not
Keep your brain 🧠 outa my foreskin
Our 2nd brain is down there anyway we use it more well some do
Not here to ask, but to share similar point of view. Normally I dont have anything against circumcision, if its medical.
People in Africa get circumcised due to the hot weather.
What I dont understand is US Jews living in America cutting some dick off of them, same with the random people who decided to do it. But still, all this left behind worst things about this I recently found out, you have to go monthly to a doctor so he/she could trim the outgrowing skin of your ding dong, which makes me draw the line here
I lack logic in your opinion. I deduce that it's based on your very religious background.
You accept circumcision if made because of religion reasons (which sound barbaric to me) but you don't accept it while done by a free choice of an adult to himself.
You're also against plastic surgery because modifying body is bad. So, is training bad? (as it changes your body) Is nail clipping also bad in your opinion? Cutting hair?
You are cleary a progressive of society and lack logic
I agree. I'm in Europe but my Godson was born in Mexico. And they cut it. Without asking anything. It's barbaric. For me is the same thing has this: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/female-genital-mutilation but because it's for men no one talks about it.
Pffff my dick looks amazing without the turtle neck. Way better for sex yall tripping
My footing is quite strong actually
I go circumed or however you spell it without consent because I was so young but I honestly have no issue with it maybe case I’ve had it like that all my life but my dick looks better and bigger imo but I have heard having the foreskin makes personal pleasure easier
It doesn't matter how it looks its there to please your lady and yourself
I havent had any complaints
Well thats good
Yup Most girls actually think an uncircumcised penis is not very attractive or at least the ones I have met
Why would she even be seeing it long enough lol
While she sucks it she has to look so?
Umm thats some strange sex
If you don’t want a girl to look up at you and look at your dick when she sucks it then you must not like getting your dick sucked
I dont like oral sex
I agree 100% as one just through luck, was not circumcised. No real science here.
I love my cleanly cut, camera ready, circ .. I don’t care if you have a foreskin fetish .. it’s a total improvement..
Pretty enough for a pic ..