Dayne Beams claims retirement contract payout was ‘outside the salary cap’
By - NimFromSudan
Not a good time dayne
AFL being dodgy is probably the right answer.
The bloke is just a total piece of work. Happy to put out his hand to collect his pay cheque for doing nothing and then turns around and makes these claims.
After his best and fairest speech at Brisbane and then leaving to Collingwood very shortly after, I have taken everything he says with a grain of salt.
Ah yes the “I’m not going anywhere, I love the club and the boys.” Then immediately requests a trade like a month later.
I remember very clearly there was a “Collingwood is where my heart’s always been” or something along those lines just to really make sure that people knew he could earnestly speak out of both sides of his face.
I don’t wish his mental health issues, or the tragedy of his dad’s passing on anyone, but he’s clearly never learned when to shut the fuck up, or even just give a diplomatic “no comment” when it’s warranted.
His dad died
Yeah but that happened in the January I believe. This all happened at the end of the year.
Yeah I have a feeling it broke him mentally, they were best mates apparently, pretty rough. Loss can send you in a downward spiral
>a month later
I dont think that word means what you think it means
I don't think Beams has a single redeeming thing about him personally, besides his footballing ability.
He's a terrible human being, and he always has been. I'm glad he's reached a point in his life where he feels his mental demons are under control, but a lot of his shitty behaviour is beyond forgiveness or excuse.
What's he done that's so bad? I've completely forgotten about the guy so genuine question
Oh there is a list of things he has done.
Where does one find this list?
Such as? Totally out of the loop here.
Well, stealing players credit/debit cards and cash, betting significant amounts of money on footy whilst playing and being on Collingwood’s list, owing money to particular people(possibly bikies or gangs), the payout with Collingwood that the club had settled on(spoken about now). All of which could not be true but he hasn’t exactly been an angel by any means.
> All of which could not be true
You forgot the fact that he seen was on the grassy knoll as well.
Yeah and that, I was trying to spit off the ones I knew well inside my head
I'm confused has this all been a joke or not?
The evidence suggests there is something to the grassy knoll narrative, back and to the right
What does that mean? Google isn't being very helpful
Grassy Knoll is a new type of Marijuana. But it’s also a popular place in history if you ever wanted to see a president get his head blown off.
Don't forget sexual assault claims
Post 2010GF rape allegations
Wow, didn't know that he was that bad
Pretty sure he had something to do with the Stephenson betting as well to top it off
I always thought of him as a somewhat decent bloke, but after reading this.. well where do I start
I can't find the article that goes further in-depth about the details in the book, but the sexual assault stuff moving away from him (with Collingwood's help) looked pretty dodgy. [https://ellymcdonaldwriter.com/tag/night-games-sex-power-and-sport/](https://ellymcdonaldwriter.com/tag/night-games-sex-power-and-sport/)
This is the most important one
I'm currently reading this book after it was recommended on this sub earlier in the week. Incredible book, and really lays out that Beams is a complete piece of shit (but he's not the lone ranger there)
At the time it seemed like someone was made to take the fall for him.
He is an advocate for mental health, there is one.
"I never said I'd take their call."
Either Beams is wrong, Collingwood is dodgy or the AFL is dodgy.
Pretty sure our discussions with Beams were hoping/expecting it to be paid outside the cap, and the AFL shut that down.
The guy is as dumb as a bag of rocks. I hate the pies as much as the next guy, but there's nothing that would suggest Beams would have any clue how the money he was paid was accounted for in the Collingwood books.
I'm pretty sure the repercussions Carlton suffered for intention salary cap breaches we're severe enough that no club would ever be serious enough to try it on the AFL again.
Why can’t it be all three?
They could prob shift it outside of the cap if it went straight to paying off his gambling creditors.
This bloke picks the oddest of times to ever say anything I swear
Him and Dane Swan are so desperately trying to stay relevant its sad
Look I don’t mind Swanny, just a bit of an odd ball like Beams sometimes. But Beams for me is just a deceiving knob.
Imagine lumping Swan and Beams together. Swannie is active on twitter and likes to have a bit of a joke around sometimes, please don't compare him to the selfish "woe is me" piece of work that is Dayne Beams.
You're right, I don't think Beams ever assaulted a bouncer
Google the book “night games”. It’s likely he did a lot worse than that.
I'm not entirely sure what that incident has to do with either one of them "trying to stay relevant" now.
Yeah actually you're right it's not really relevant. My bad
lmao Dayne my man why not just get on the tellie and show everyone the brown paper bag it came in
This is basically a Brock McLean moment.
Oh good.... my laundry is done.
Silly Dayne. He's probably just thinking about that $30k tax deduction he claimed after Eddie bought his premiership medal.
is... is that legal?
It's a proud day for the Pies part 2?
Proud day 2: The better boogaloo
Beams making things worse for the Pies? Hey I’ve seen this before!
You guys literally got kissed on the dick. Got rid of this knobhead and picked up Deven Robertson.
Man dev rob has actually really impressed me this season. Think he's been a really understated part of our midfield so far
Nick Maxwell really chose the wrong info to bring back from the Melbourne Storm....
Ooohhh cross code salary cap burn. Those are rare.
Can we have one controversy at a time please.
Think of it as like having triplets: you’re getting them all out of the way quicker this way.
In 5 years, you can leave the house again.
There should be a literal alarm sounding at AFL house right now. Frantic staffers running down the halls with bundles of papers, executives ringing lawyers, some office warden shouting about how this is not a drill.
what a week. first the pies take the heat off of us by announcing buckley’s resignation, now they want to create their own ‘brown paper bag’ scandal???
god bless you
This feels like God getting everyone back for saying "Pies are pretty nice fellas" in 2018
Like usual this is all America's fault
PTSD is all coming back
it was so long ago but it's all coming back to me
Will this be another "We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing." ?
"It's a proud day for our club"
Don't think they can investigate themselves for cheating the cap
"we investigated ourselves but won't release the report untill on of our staff leaks in to the media"
Eli5 what does this actually mean?
Even though Beams retired, whatever Collingwood pay him is supposed to contribute to the salary cap.
Collingwood dumped a bunch of players because they didn't have enough room in their salary cap.
Everyone blamed Beams for contributing to the salary cap problems.
Beams defended himself because he said his payments weren't contributing to the salary cap like everyone thought.
Beams accidentally revealed that Collingwood is allegedly paying him outside the salary cap.
Pies cheating the salary cap - big bad
"Ned Guy... you blowhard!" - Ned Guy
Collingwood: “welp, we’re probably done for scandals and intrigue this week”
Dayne Beams: “lol”
Unlike Beams to shirk responsibility or culpability for anything.
When it rains it pours huh
If this is true............holy fuck, Collingwood's season has just gotten a whole lot worse. I genuinely didn't think that was possible.
However, it could be that Dayne is incorrect as he didn't fully understand the cap situation regarding his payments and that everything was kosher with the AFL, so I'll try not to jump to any conclusions just yet. Even if I REALLY FUCKING WANT TO!
My pitchfork is still in the shed............for now.
Let's be honest; Dayne doesn't seem like the kind of guy who really understands many things.
You are wrong, it is their decade getting a whole worse if this is true.
Wouldn't it.be funny if this lead to them not being able to draft Daicos or even a fifth round pick to fill Degoey's spot when he goes on an extended holiday in August.
If they miss out on daicos and dib because of this I may die from schadenfreude
The next pandemic?
I have to keep reminding myself that it is only going to get worse for them. This circus will just keep rolling at least until Degoey fronts court for rape in August
Not for you lot obviously, but for the rest of us
I think he's telling the truth accidentally. He was trying to push away blame for the salary cap dump because he isn't responsible for that like everyone thinks.
And then whoops...
Can't imagine that anything dodgy is going on and Beams is just misinformed.
Him coming back 100% impacted the Pies' ability to fulfill their other contracts. But that still doesn't make it his fault. Pies bet it all on 2018 and brought him down knowing that it might come back to bite them.
We bet it all in 2019, was Brisbane's captain first half of 2018.
Sorry you're right. Got my years wrong.
Still a bad trade. Aside from the systemic racism can probably trace all our onfield woes from that trade.
Is it outside the salary cap if he put it all on a 17 leg multi and lost?
This would be like banned from the draft type bad right?
Take the pick away from GWS
They’re not Sydney
So, will that first round pick they've given to GWS be stripped along with the others or what.
Definitely raises questions with future pick trading that the AFL hadn't thought of.
They could always take next years off them, not that much of an issue.
It's what they did to the Coyotes in the NHL when they were caught draft tampering, just stripped their future 1st rounder (as well as 2nds both years)
Or just move the Pies to the back of the draft this year and remove their ability to match bids on Daicos and Dib, while the Giants keep the traded pick.
Tell us more about your gambling addiction
Poor Pies fans have been really screwed over by the club lately. It's like the second it looks like things might start turning around for them another shit show starts
I thought the AFL told the Pies no but yeah see what happens.
I really wanna get off this ride.
The AFL planned for Richmond to win a 4peat but then Collingwood went and ruined it against Gil's wishes so the AFL has decided to bring Collingwood crumbling down.
Wow, this looks like something that needs investigation 😳
Can Collingwood just be normal for like, a day? I can’t keep up with all the scandal.
To be fair...its nice that Carlton aren't headlining things (today at least lol).
Why can’t Sydney be a basket case for a change.
Last time we did that the player was found guilty of assaulting his partner as well as a recent former player getting charged with sexual assault. So yeah, best to leave the basket case stuff up to some other club
I was there during the early 90's. 26 straight losses. It was unpleasant.
Not exactly a scandalous or basket case though. More like what Gold Coast are now.
Scandal wise? Maybe not. But we were proper fucked and on the verge of going under. We were far worse than Gold Coast ever were. The only team that I can remember seeing that were more of a rabble were the pre-merger Fitzroy teams.
I dunno. I’d say GCS are in a more perilous position than Swans were. At least you had history and an existing fanbase behind you, that counts for something. You were also able to attract the best talent in the game. Suns don’t have that.
I for one am relishing the duo scandals of carlton and Collingwood. Keep em coming I say.
Obligatory get a dog up ya Collingwood ya fuckin deserve it, fuck you all
Old school rivalries, I love it. Feels like its diminished since the expansions. Fuck you Essendon cunts.at least we can win a final
Wait. This isn’t normal for Collingwood?
Collingwood’s Annus Horribilis continues
Theres was an article on here posted a few weeks ago, from a western australian journalist documenting some of the double standards by the vfl. One of them was the Tippett saga where adelaide wasnt allowed to mount a defence. because they would bring up precedent. Adelaide got severe sanctions.
Beams would have the evidence of what he says here. This is worse than the tippett saga.
The outrage in here is absurd. Everyone suggesting that Collingwood somehow cheated the cap. When the likelihood is that this was (if true) all above board and that the AFL would have full knowledge.
all AFL players are insured for career ending injuries. The insurance doesn't cover mental health. So likely the AFL was exposed legally and had to bend to protect themselves.
True or not, things are deadset laughable at Collingwood right now. Eddie has turned out to be an Alan Mcalister clone that someone fucked up.
Tasmanian Pievils anyone?
Any chance the Buckley step down was accelerated by information about this?
Don’t be jealous cause we rich, plebs.
Rich in what? Certainly not future draft picks by the look of this
Rich in controversies? Yes!
Not cash, you were one of the first clubs going to the AFL with an outstretched palm last year