And that's okay, often things like this aren't meant to be obvious or teach others a lesson, but rather act as a basis for creating an interesting story that stands on its own. The point of the matrix isn't "transition is cool", the process and themes of transition were just used as a rough outline to create something that doesn't need an explanation behind the creative process. I think you're just stuck on the idea that the point of the entire series is acting as a metaphor for transition, when it was really just used as inspiration.
Sorry if I'm coming off as rude here, it's not what I'm trying to do, I am genuinely trying to be helpful here.
A story can have multiple themes that don’t necessarily align with its message. The Matrix has a lot of themes regarding transitioning but also was heavily influenced by a lot of philosophy and ideologies. The story is definitely ‘about’ transitioning but it’s also about other themes like questioning authority that is both corporeal and non corporeal (i.e. not just questioning people in power but ideas in power, like the idea our reality isn’t a simulation), which is where it’s message leans
someone said the creators (who are trans themselves) confirmed it is something about trans. nobody knows the exacts here, as far as i've read. if someone knows about it, it would be nice if you shared it.
as in, cant understand the trans metaphor?
The creators recently said that it was. Not too surprising since they are both trans apparently.
I guess you could think of it as someone experiencing gender dysphoria and considering being trans. "do i stay cis and surpress these feelings? or do i acknowledge them and see how far this rabbithole goes?"
I mean, it's so unspecific that it could be a metaphor for basically everything, from buying an ice cream when you're broke to self-harm, at least the way you out it. I have personally seen matrix more than 5 times and haven't noticed any metaphor yet.
Edit: I've read more comments and I agree that the movie as a whole could be a metaphor for some kind of transition (still can't see the sexual one though), change or personal development. But most movies and almost all animated movies are like that, even some videogames. Do you remember the guy from Avatar joining the blue guys, Horus Lupercal betraying the emperor who then buckled up and killed his son, batman, lightning McQueen losing the race just so the old car could win one last time (happened not long after he destroyed a city and wanted to flee)? Would you really generalize character development as a metaphor?
TLDR: The metaphor in matrix is probably just a "retcon" in a style of Hermione being on a wheelchair and the authors didn't even think of that while making the movie, if not then it's too unspecific to be noticed.
Oh yeah for sure.
The way i see it. The matrix and its entire franchise can mean whatever you want it to mean.
The Wachowski's can make their own meanings for the series, but that doesnt mean that you cant take your own meanings and interpretations from it.
Like any bit of culture, religion or idea, its subject to anyone bending it to suit them. And thats the beauty in ideas.
I mean it’s not probably not a retcon, as a trans person I can definitely relate to and understand that theme in the Matrix specifically and it was created by two Trans women. Harry Potter is kind of full of either stereotypes or brick wall characters and was written by a TERF who only started trying to add diversity like 18 years after the fact
Yeah. Good thing is that u can find ur own metaphors from the matrix so even if the Wachowski's say its one thing, it doesnt change what it means to you.
Humans evolved from species that have eaten meat for at least 6 million years, the reason were hairless and have big brains is from hunting, and there are certain nutrients we can only get from animal products. We’re not a herbivorous species, that’s just a fact. I don’t understand why people are trying to politicise dietary choices and try to connect it to gender identity or ideology. All of our ancestors ate meat as hunter gatherers, it doesn’t matter if you’re a man, woman, trans, black, white, liberal or conservative, all of your ancestors hunted on the earth’s Great Plains of the Pleistocene
Bro wait until I hear a mf get mad at my comments 💀
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（ジョークしてるだけw 犬食べたくねえ。でも誰かは食べたかったら、大丈夫だと思う。牛と犬の違いって小さいんだ。。。）
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"yeah bro you just have to trust me it doesn't matter if this movie is a literal video of a chicken flying I think it's about a duck and that's all that matters bro it's a duck bro you have to trust me personal rhetoric is all that matters in storytelling bro"
\>erasing what womenhood even is
\>bracketing every minority group into stereotypical behaviors and ways of thinking
\>YOU HATE WOMEN AND THE COLOREDS, JUST ADMIT IT!!!
okay, pal, just lay off the hormones a tad, half dose maybe?
Thanks Mrs. Stephens, want to look in my shopping cart to make sure I'm buying the appropriate things for my home?
Oops! This music album has a Parental Advisory warning on it, I wonder who put these there?!
Must've been those damned uncool Republicans and nazis! *Same thing, amirite? huehuehuehuehueheueh*
No, being based means you hunt your own food, and use the whole body of the animal, and sacrifice a portion as an offering to the Gods and respectfully release the animal’s spirit to the heavens
Who's trans in the matrix? I didn't see the new one and i don't remember much from 2 and 3
The creators are trans and have confirmed that the story is an allegory for transition, though I don't know the specifics
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And that's okay, often things like this aren't meant to be obvious or teach others a lesson, but rather act as a basis for creating an interesting story that stands on its own. The point of the matrix isn't "transition is cool", the process and themes of transition were just used as a rough outline to create something that doesn't need an explanation behind the creative process. I think you're just stuck on the idea that the point of the entire series is acting as a metaphor for transition, when it was really just used as inspiration. Sorry if I'm coming off as rude here, it's not what I'm trying to do, I am genuinely trying to be helpful here.
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A story can have multiple themes that don’t necessarily align with its message. The Matrix has a lot of themes regarding transitioning but also was heavily influenced by a lot of philosophy and ideologies. The story is definitely ‘about’ transitioning but it’s also about other themes like questioning authority that is both corporeal and non corporeal (i.e. not just questioning people in power but ideas in power, like the idea our reality isn’t a simulation), which is where it’s message leans
Don't watch the new one, it's by far the worst movie I've ever seen
Matrix mostly represents transition itself from a state to another rather than sexual transition exclusively
kid named transing my sexuality to become gay instead of bi:
what
(transition normally refers to gener)
Someone update me on why the matrix is trans
someone said the creators (who are trans themselves) confirmed it is something about trans. nobody knows the exacts here, as far as i've read. if someone knows about it, it would be nice if you shared it.
she would never say this
Cry me a river
The damage is done so I guess I'll be leaving.
Please do
You don't have to say what you did. I already know. I found out from _him_!
Take your pills.
Hating women? So you want me to hate you?
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as in, cant understand the trans metaphor? The creators recently said that it was. Not too surprising since they are both trans apparently. I guess you could think of it as someone experiencing gender dysphoria and considering being trans. "do i stay cis and surpress these feelings? or do i acknowledge them and see how far this rabbithole goes?"
I mean, it's so unspecific that it could be a metaphor for basically everything, from buying an ice cream when you're broke to self-harm, at least the way you out it. I have personally seen matrix more than 5 times and haven't noticed any metaphor yet. Edit: I've read more comments and I agree that the movie as a whole could be a metaphor for some kind of transition (still can't see the sexual one though), change or personal development. But most movies and almost all animated movies are like that, even some videogames. Do you remember the guy from Avatar joining the blue guys, Horus Lupercal betraying the emperor who then buckled up and killed his son, batman, lightning McQueen losing the race just so the old car could win one last time (happened not long after he destroyed a city and wanted to flee)? Would you really generalize character development as a metaphor? TLDR: The metaphor in matrix is probably just a "retcon" in a style of Hermione being on a wheelchair and the authors didn't even think of that while making the movie, if not then it's too unspecific to be noticed.
Oh yeah for sure. The way i see it. The matrix and its entire franchise can mean whatever you want it to mean. The Wachowski's can make their own meanings for the series, but that doesnt mean that you cant take your own meanings and interpretations from it. Like any bit of culture, religion or idea, its subject to anyone bending it to suit them. And thats the beauty in ideas.
I mean it’s not probably not a retcon, as a trans person I can definitely relate to and understand that theme in the Matrix specifically and it was created by two Trans women. Harry Potter is kind of full of either stereotypes or brick wall characters and was written by a TERF who only started trying to add diversity like 18 years after the fact
I mean this seems like it would be an easy retcon to try and make to look good
It definitely could be and thats what i initially assumed. Ultimately though, we cant really prove if it was retconned or not.
I feel like it was easier to see the metaphor as staying with the life you know vs what you don’t, taking risks, and bullet time
Yeah. Good thing is that u can find ur own metaphors from the matrix so even if the Wachowski's say its one thing, it doesnt change what it means to you.
I feel like it wasnt worth pissing some people off about the “message” when each person can interpret it in a different way
Humans evolved from species that have eaten meat for at least 6 million years, the reason were hairless and have big brains is from hunting, and there are certain nutrients we can only get from animal products. We’re not a herbivorous species, that’s just a fact. I don’t understand why people are trying to politicise dietary choices and try to connect it to gender identity or ideology. All of our ancestors ate meat as hunter gatherers, it doesn’t matter if you’re a man, woman, trans, black, white, liberal or conservative, all of your ancestors hunted on the earth’s Great Plains of the Pleistocene
Maaaan idc if people say it's immoral that shit's yummy in my tummy 🦍🦍🦍
We kill the a lot more morally than most animals do in the wild except for halal butchering but that's something else
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If gender is just a social construct than doesn't that make being trans, non-binary, gender non-conforming and gender fluid also a social construct?
This sub is on the brink of death because of awful posts like this
I love the layers upon layers of how much this wonderful meme describes so many people in our lives 😂 I think we all have some soul-searching to do 🤷
I mean the creator confirmed it https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a33521185/the-matrix-trans-allegory-meaning-explained/
Actually could not care less my enjoyment of the movie hasn’t changed
"yeah bro you just have to trust me it doesn't matter if this movie is a literal video of a chicken flying I think it's about a duck and that's all that matters bro it's a duck bro you have to trust me personal rhetoric is all that matters in storytelling bro"
Stories are about what your want them to be you are the interpreter of your universe and so only your opinion matters above all others to you.
\>erasing what womenhood even is \>bracketing every minority group into stereotypical behaviors and ways of thinking \>YOU HATE WOMEN AND THE COLOREDS, JUST ADMIT IT!!! okay, pal, just lay off the hormones a tad, half dose maybe?
Jesse...
hey look it's another stereotype character on a tv series, that'll make "them" feel included!
this has gotta be satire, dude
correct, I actually love liberal racism
wtf im a liberal now
that's the spirit, let's visit Thailand and complain about the way they do anything different
You need to hop off the internet for a bit my guy
Thanks Mrs. Stephens, want to look in my shopping cart to make sure I'm buying the appropriate things for my home? Oops! This music album has a Parental Advisory warning on it, I wonder who put these there?! Must've been those damned uncool Republicans and nazis! *Same thing, amirite? huehuehuehuehueheueh*
Real
terf bitch is about best case scenario here
Deeper, darker, I consider Paglia cute and quaint light reading material before beddy time
No, being based means you hunt your own food, and use the whole body of the animal, and sacrifice a portion as an offering to the Gods and respectfully release the animal’s spirit to the heavens
Use the entire deerussy.