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boii137

We may have our differences but at least we can agree that INC is a cult


PeterStrasse69

Dont forget Quiboloy's cult


boii137

It's a disgrace to not only all Christians, but every Abrahamic religion too


Viscount-Von-Solt

It's a disgrace to religion in general.


sevenfloorsdown

It's a disgrace in general.


zakiuem

And MGCI (ADD).


boi_logrithm

Hey, at least "Itanong mo kay Soriano" provides endless hours of entertainment lmao "Gago! Tanga! Inutil! TARANTADO!" --Brader Eli


rbizaare

Lmao! Bro. Eli during one of the old ADD episodes, belying what some INC ministers discussed on their own show, the ATD: "Sinungaling! Gaaago! Taaraantado! Manloloko! Di naman ganun yung sinabi ko, pinagduktong nyo lang yung hindi naman talaga magkaduktong!" And so much more. As a Catholic, I thoroughly enjoyed those 😂


isotycin

There's a fine line between a religious group and cult. INC cross that line.


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bubba_yagba

Fuck you more. Take my upvote as well.


Black_Blue_Black

Read these to see how INCult is really just about money and personal benefits: [WHY PROPAGATION IS CRUCIAL FOR MONETARY GAINS IN INC](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/wwzhss/why_propagation_is_crucial_for_monetary_gains/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [THE TOXIC PROPAGATION CYCLE IN INC](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/x1mzio/incults_toxic_propagation_cycle/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


Friendofafriend468

Yes bro


pm-me-cute-butts07

Plugging r/exIglesiaNiCristo because screw this cult.


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Agree.


MoiCOMICS

Yep, sama mo na rin mga Saksi ni Jehova. Cults with different names pero cult pa din.


Cheese_Grater101

Wait a second up to this day hindi parin na rerecognized as cult ang INC? Cult na yan if they coerce you to vote whom they're in favor of.


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ser_ranserotto

Justification daw yung one judgment and unity


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ser_ranserotto

Kulang nalang magiging state religion din yung kay Manalo 💀


JohnFinchGroves

Please dont give them ideas... 🥲


Overall_Amphibian_51

sabi ng lola ko na very INC, nasa bible daw yung unity. kaya raw sila nasunod sa bloc voting kasi na-assess na nung leader nila yung candidate (if align sa values and beliefs nila)


goldenleash

> if align sa values and beliefs nila what a pickle!


Maskarot

"Naassess na ng leader nila yunng candidate" You know that you are in a cult when you start handing over your decision making capacity to a self-designated "leader".


toskie9999

yep yan lage excuse nila and yet nakalimutan nila "free will" was granted to us to be used and they surrendered it to an organization kasi "na-assess" keme


Vordeo

Honestly, separation of Church and State should go both ways. If these sects / cults / whatever you want to call them are going to practice bloc voting they should be taxed.


Rauffenburg

Problem is they only do bloc voting in the Philippines. It’s illegal especially in North America.


Overseer-007

Wala silang mga indivudualism.... best term i can say ay sheep


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SanMarcus

Kasi revised bible nila. You get the idea


violetbravery

That's literally what they call themselves LMAO. Manalo probably knew that and laughed behind it as mockery to the members.


idrivearust

bloc voting nailed christ to the cross if you think about it


Full_Profession_4997

Tapos yung mga friend kong INC sinasabi si Ka Leody daw binoto nila. Di kasi nila kaya pag malaki at umamin na si BBM talaha binoto nila kasi yun yung dinikta ng religion nila.


kd0517

So politicians will court them


_Cactus_123

WALA NAMAN SA BIBLE yung DAPAT MASUNOD ANG CHURCH SA PAG BOTO NG MGA KAANIB. TRULY BULLSH*T... ANG INC TALAGA PERA PERA NALANG...


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_Cactus_123

Anyways, sasabihin nila hindi sila tumatanggap ng pera tama naman yun. Pero ang usapan pala diyan magpapagawa ng Ganito ganun. Like church or whatsoever. Ligtas nga naman sa Pera 🤣


imn0ttophimmelonlord

Well, if they can get away with it. And surely they will here in the Philippines. The Manalos’ are thinking ‘why not?’


Big-Measurement6978

Sumali ako noon sa doktrina as far as I remember meron daw.Like sabi kelangan daw sundin yung leader which is si manalo kung ano yung pili niya since siya nga kasi yung sugo keme


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vanillanekosugar

Well the INC wanted to make INC as state religion and soon INC will be more of a cult


GoFigure07

I remember one INC officemate who told us the reason why: “Naniniwala kami sa judgment ng leaders namin.” I don’t really curse kasi I am firm sa beliefs ko (also a Catholic) pero tanginang yan, yung wisdom nababayaran.


bubba_yagba

INC member ako. As an INC member, I despise the INC. Tama ang mga akusasyon ninyo. Kulto ang INC. Walang batayan sa makataong Kristyanismo ang mga aral nito. Ito ay isang salot sa bansa at sa mundo. Kaway-kaway, mga kapuwa naghahangad ng kalayaan at katotohanan r/exiglesianicristo Sa mga INC intel na nakakabasa nito at naglalagi rin sa sub namin, taga-Central ako at ministro ang kapatid ko alam ko ang mga sikreto ng mga amo niyo hahaha hanapin niyo ako bitchez wheeeeeee


Alekseener33

i compliment you for being a open minded and rational yet humorous individual, yung mga nakilala kong inc mga mentally unstable eh HAHAHAH (just based on experience ofc)


bubba_yagba

Marami kaming ganito sa INC for different reasons (mostly hostage ang family), tahimik na lang IRL dahil marami ring mawawala sa amin kung nag-express kami openly. May mga fora gaya ng r/exiglesianicristo —iba-ibang kuwento, iba-ibang levels of pain, iba-ibang coping mechanisms (gaya ng humor) pero pare-pareho ang puno’t dulo- salot sa lipunan at sumpa sa buhay ang INC. Yun lang, may well-founded paranoia na kami kaya hindi ka talaga makakasiguro kung malaya mong makakausap ang INC members.


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Just curious, central as in ung malaking Inc along commonwealth? Nakipag trabaho ako sa isang inc na nag ccaterer for central, grabe slave labor sa iba nilang employees, ung isa 20 pesos a day eh na sahod. Gusto ko ireport pero diko alam paano. Lalo na malakas ata sila sa lokal dun sa tabi ng school ng ministro haha


bubba_yagba

Yes. Sa Central Commonwealth QC ako nakatala (pagtatala ay registration based on local/area). They justify slave labor bilang *paglilingkod*. Ligtas points! Malakas sila dahil sipsip ang local government sa kanila. May sure votes ka na, may instant defenders ka pa. Depende rin kung san mo irereport dahil malakas ang INC sa DOLE. Slave owners gotta stick together.


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Ayos, pag minsan nagddeliver ako dun and strict ang security, dami mga Attack dog sa gate haha And the thing is di man Inc ung guy na 20pesos a day, medyo mentally handicapped kaya nattake advantage. Like how do you linkod kung di ka inc lol Kung taga dun ka sa area baka kilala mo sila may ari ng sikat na carwash dun haha


bubba_yagba

Forced attendance ahahaha. Naku maraming pinapasikat na businesses samin, very likely INC ang may-ari. Very attractive ang mercantile support nila lalo na sa mga INC-heavy communities gaya ng Montalban at Central/ New Era. Isang mapanlinlang na pro sa napakaraming cons.


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No choice eh no hahaha Yun din nga napapansin ko, puro Inc halos mga customer dun. Ministro halos eh. Yun lang siguro pinaka pro as Inc susuportahan ka kapag mayaman ka haha


InpensusValens

gano kalaki sweldo ng isang ministro? yung samin, nakaFord Ranger e. lol


bubba_yagba

Ford Ranger lang? Poor pa yan hahaha. *Ministro* ay mas-senior na graduate mula sa CEM (College of Evangelical Ministry o College of Ebak Manloloko), may assistant ministers pa sila na dumaan sa pagka-manggagawa (pre-grad). Ang press release nila ay umaaverage daw sa 20K-30K then above kapag high-performing o connected. Istress ko lang na *press release* yan, so imagine ang pagkukusa ng mga members para mabigyan ng mas-dignified na lifestyle daw ang mga ministers ng local nila. *Tulong* ang tawag sa sahod nila, bukod pa sa tulong na iniaabot ng mga masmayamang members. Isa sa mga hinanaing ng utol ko ay halos wala silang benefits (hindi bigtime ang utol ko, utusan lang ng high-ranker), namulubi nga siya nung na-Covid family niya. Pero corrupt din siya hahaha. As for their vehicles atbp., ang press release naman nila ay either bigay or on loan from Central— o di kaya tulong na naman or gifts from wealthier members at business partners. Depende sa performance o corruption ang pedigree ng vehicle o luxury item o activity. May mga pa-condo pa ang marami, may small businesses, may kickbacks mula sa dubious import and real estate deals, depende din sa nepotismo. In essence, the closer you are to Central, the stronger your connection and access to negotiations. Yun lang you have to compete in a larger more compact pool of wannabes. Sometimes favors are better in provinces with richer retired members. You might want to ask kung magkano ang kinikita ng ministrong may negosyo na connected sa mga government agencies and ports hahaha.


Zodyaq_Raevenhart

Gigachad


mahneymjeff

how true na meron kayong private army?


bubba_yagba

Very very very true. Noong 80’s-90’s ay armed to the teeth kahit sa mga local lang (locale means local church). Mas tago na ngayon, there’s no need to flaunt eh. Mas dumami ang mga kaanib naming pulis at militar. Ilang high-ranking generals ang INC. May mga nakapuwesto sa NBI at Customs. Super-konek sa local government noon, barangay levs. Lalo na ngayon, sa national.


KJCeddy18

Cannot stress enough how INC peeps are so blinded by their religion that they fail to see how much manipulation they are being fed everyday. My brother is an INC and he confessed that he hates being one. He can't leave bec his fellow INCs won't leave him alone.


middledestination

Typical trap of cults.


Imaginary-Pea4510

Guilt tripping, blackmailing, di na nahiya sa members nila sa social media na naghahanap ng hidden tiwalag para mado-doxx at nang ma-public shame sa local church at i-isolate kuno sa members. Sheeesh.


EDI-Thor

> He can't leave bec his fellow INCs won't leave him alone. Bakit? Natatakot ba siyang maging social outcast? Kasama din sa manipulasyon ng mga kulto ang pagbanta ng pagtatakwil ng mga pamilya at kaibigan para tumagal ang isang tao.


HachisThrowaway

one of my INC friends said she wants to get out but that means being completely cut off and shunned by family and starting off in square one. so that's one thing


NorseWorld

I wan't to get out of this cult, and I've been trying, thank god for Quarantine, I think my mom knows that I don't like the religion and has been lenient to me not going to the church that I've been avoiding.


Ihearheresy

TBH it doesn't sound that bad, A co-worker once told me she wanted to get out since she only joined because her boyfriend was INC. If she didn't convert they would excommunicate her BF, BF's parents and so on. If INC shunned you that would be a blessing.


mangoong13

I had a friend who was able to leave. She told her chapter na lilipat na sya ng bahay. Kinuha nya records/documents nya from them and told them na isusubmit nya dun sa chapter ng paglilipatan nya. Paglipat nya, di na nya sinubmit yung docs.


ceeramos

Hala. Religion daw pero sapilitan ? 🥴


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trapped members like me too


Specialist-Equal5358

Sup there kapatid HAHAHAHA kaya pa ba natin?


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hahaha tiis muna. makakalaya din tayo


OriginalSpray8446

That hit a chord. Sana makalaya na nga kayo :)


RoundishLyricc

Hello fellow trapped kapatid


middledestination

Habang nasa loob pa, maganda mangolekta ng mga impormasyon tapos ishare sa r/exiglesianicristo. Salamat.


MagnusBaechus

as a kalihim in a big locale that also houses our district office I have some juicy stuff I want to share as well lmao


middledestination

Nice, we would like to know that. You can share your stories in r/exiglesianicristo subreddit. From the behavior and attitude of the members, how they manage the church, up to how they influence and utilize their members. Your inputs will be well appreciated.


tearsofyesteryears

You trapped people should have a group where you pool all these juicy bits and then release anonymously once you're all certain you wouldn't be implicated.


Anaralah_Belore223

Collect more info about the Central's activities and share this info to r/exiglesianicristo


lord_kupaloidz

Handa akong jakulin si Manalo para sa kalayaan nyo. Too bad it doesn't work that way.


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ako nalang lods. jk.


iskolarngbahay

HAHAHA belated happy national heroes day to u sir 🫡


Friendofafriend468

I feel sad for you. I hope that you can leave INC soon


Gaelahad

Minsan ba naisip mo na lang na tumiwalag at sabihing sa sarili na 'fuck it'


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sakin di naman kasing complicated ng iba situation nila. jowa ko kasi INC din na active member kaya di pako makaalis tiis muna haha. mahirap sa iba lalo na sa dependent pa sa magulang. kaya sila idisown ng family nila pag ginawa nila yon. kaya marami ka makikita trapped member dito sa reddit naglulurk.


middledestination

Kaya mo yan. Habang nasa loob ka, maganda mangolekta ng mga impormasyon tapos ishare sa r/exiglesianicristo. Salamat.


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thanks bro. nagpopost post ako dyan or comment paminsan minsan. pero lurk lang talaga most of the time.


chillinlikeamf

What is the meaning of being trapped?? Cant u just pull out and change ur religion? Sry na curious lang


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medyo complicated umalis sa INC. for example umalis ka pwede mawala sa tungkulin (church office) parents mo, cult behavior. kaya ung ibang parents nagagawang itakwil anak nila if aalis. may iba kaya saktan or pabayaan anak nila sa sobrang pagkabrainwash. mahieap yon lalo na if dependent kapa sa parents mo. plus kita mo naman ugali ng mga yan sa social media pag may umatake sa kanila, super toxic. marami pa ibang situation kung bakit iba di makaalis.


trey-rey

When you've been brainwashed your whole life that if you leave you will be punished or bad things will happen to you and your family or if you have family members who are officers, they will be punished because of you, etc... it is like being in an abusive relationship based on how they control your thoughts and behaviors through their "religious doctrinal habits"


dioisnotme12

HAHSHAHAHA tangina true. May long time crush ako, di pako naamin sakanya kasi sheesh grabe pagpinursue ko sya mapipilitan ako umakay sa reigion nilang bullshit at kulto. Red flag nadin sya sakin ngayon dahil binoto nya si bbm which is a good reason to not like her pero matupok ako and after last date namin when we talked about martial law and bbm presidency she's so ignorant. Super loyal din sya minsan sa ministro nya as if ililigtas sya ni evm. Now may bago na sya kadate and I dont regret cutting connection with her at all. I dodged a bullet after all hahshahaha


PlaneBeginning4489

That cult is causing many issues and will be a big problem of the Philippines. The likes lang ng mga followers nung cult e: Marcoleta. AND what they are doing every election, they are enbaling vote buying. They are destroying the social fiber of the Philippines. They make themselves 'different' from the rest and they are not willing to accept arguments base sa logic and reason. Wala silang sense of Kapwa at malasakit sa hindi nila kauri. Then, the their cult dont have a sense of morality. F**kup ang sense of right and wrong nila. Then now they are starting to be entitled. I dunno if you notice, sa roads, many put a symbol ng cult nila sa sasakyan as if a pass na hindi sila mahuli.


violetbravery

Marami pa namang kapilya sa Pinas, kahit saan meron. Maliit man mga kapilya o malaki, marami ang naloloko. They're washing away good Filipino cultures, sila yung embodiment of toxic Filipino cultures. Lahat ng masamang ugali ng Pinoy nasa kanila. Crab mentality - ayaw nila nang may umaangat, kung mahirap ka, hanggang dun ka na lang. Hindi man nila direct sinasabi pero sa mga sermon, "Yung mga mayaman nga malulungkot eh. Pero ikaw kahit mahirap ka pero Iglesia Ni Cristo ka, magiging masaya ka." Sinasabi nila yun para hindi sila mag-focus sa trabaho. Tsismis - common yan sa mga church officer. Akala mo mga banal banalan pero mga entitled ang mga yan. Toxic positivity - lalo na sa pamilya. Bawal daw madepress kasi may Diyos naman sila. Kaya kahit yung mga hardcore INCs, depressed sila, ayaw lang aminin sa personal.


bruhidkanymore1

> Bawal daw madepress Alam ko na marami sa mga Pilipino di pa nakakaintindi masyado ng mental health (at sinusubukan din naman nating maintindihan) pero yung ganito? Tf


Friendofafriend468

Yeah I agree. God said to love thy neighbor. They aren't doing that. Disappointing to see, really


INCOGNITOISMISTICISM

there's something common about them too, parang hangang hanga sa mga sarili. kung may pinoy pride may INC pride, like feel nila sila pinaka best filipinos lol.


Different_Judge111

They feel like sila lang maliligtas so they sort of look down on other religions. Parang ganun vibes.


Friendofafriend468

Yeah. I said this already replying to another comment but God said to love thy neighbor. Regardless of their different beliefs and opinions from us, that doesn't stop us from loving people with other religions and we can't look down on them.


middledestination

It is indicated in their website that you have to be a member of INC in order to be saved.


mieaow

Yep, ganyan na ganyan yung mindset ko nuon na every tao na nakikita ko na hindi INC eh masusunog at di maliligtas but right now, I'm so proud of myself na nakaalis na ako sa INCult.


bonito_flaky

I have this friend who asked a lot questions and telling me that catholics are praising statues and not God. So dumb, speaking of faith who voted a president who's family killed a lot of Filipinos.


simounthejeweller

True words! They bloc vote for the candidate that they can ask favors from, and display pictures of Manalo. Just in case lang tanungin nya uli yung tungkol sa statue worship - contrary to popular belief, Catholics do not praise the statues (I am a Catholic convert, so this is also one of the things I questioned before). Instead, those should just serve as a reminder of the God and the saints they venerate. Kaya di rin ako believer ng mga punas-punas sa mga rebulto (Nazareno!), thinking that the statues per se are miraculous. Isa pa, during the Christianization of the PH by the Spanish, language barrier is one of the problems. The Spanish found it easier to use symbolisms and rituals to propagate Catholicism among the natives. This folk Christianity resulted from the intermingling Spanish evangelization and the leeway they gave our ancestors to continue practicing their existing cultures of primitive animism. Sorry humaba yung paliwanag, passionate lang kasi ako idebunk yung idea na yun sa kanila. 😅


Ok_Raspberry_1288

This is relatable to just about every Catholic I’ve met. No matter what race you can tell how devoted they are by the number of statuettes, pictures, candles, etc of saints and Jesus and Mary in their homes, cars, etc. I remember being approached by a member of INC and was given some church propaganda and it was all about Manalo being a great prophet- not much said about God and Jesus Christ although they believe in them, but apparently put them on the back burner of their worship.


simounthejeweller

Yes! They don't know their dogmas. Their worship is too Manalo-centric, there's not much use for "Cristo" in the INC. Taking pride in "obey and never complain" defies the thought of man being a rational being capable of deciding for himself.


JulzRadn

They criticize Catholics for having photos of Jesus, Mary and the saints while they are keeping photos of the Manalos


Friendofafriend468

Hypocrisy in broad daylight


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Gaelahad

Kontra sa mga katoliko na sumasamba sa mga santo at rebulto. Pero ayos lang sa kanila na bumoto ng magnanakaw at mamamatay tao.


lunarkremlin1945

Nah dude why they have a pic of Felix, Erdy and Eduardo in their own houses.


hae_in

nuyan parang north korea lang???


JulzRadn

Dinuguan >>>>>> INC Chick


kosaki16

INCussy


yuzuki_aoi

nOOO


Physical_Rock2797

Hoping na lang ako in the next 10-20 years, may isang leader na i-consider ang INC as cult and should be destroyed


middledestination

Philippines should embrace secular ideas in order for that to happen. Our culture of being religious and superstitious easily makes us vulnerable to manipulation and brainwashing.


neko_hoarder

Not gonna happen since stuck tayo sa mga Marcos within that time period. Unless sakupin tayo bigla ng China at mag-full Xinjiang internment camp sila sa mga INC.


subminus

Patawa nga yang mga yan. Pag mga pari nagsasalita about politics, wag daw mangialam pero pag sila okay lang haha mga ugok talaga


middledestination

Damn hypocrites. They only know respect my opinion and beliefs when it is theirs.


zucksucksmyberg

Not to offend other denominations, but a lot of Protestant churches also do this. Or atleast the evangelical ones.


Takarajima8932

They think they are superior to catholics just because they don't celebrate Christmas and build mini-Disneyland like buildings that are just eyesore to the cityscape.


Specialist-Equal5358

WOAH, I'm an INC and I hated my religion. Can't seem to get out 'cause they always mention people's name who left/didn't live up to their beliefs. Imagine having a family who is devoted to this religion.


VANAIZEN

Denounced my being catholic, and I still get shit for it to this day. My nickname's practically "demonyo" around here, it's amazing


thr0waway00231

I'm catholic and probably always will be and I apologize on behalf of every catholic and christian that has said that to you.


Skeptical_Pinoy_2022

Inuusig niyo ang Bayan ni BBM!!!! huhuhu BAYANG BANAL MANALO


AeoliaSchenbergCB

I first read it as "Bayag Banal Manalo" and I was like wtf lol.


ZacharyKou

damn my whole family is inc. infact we just went to an inc church just an hour ago. good thing im a closeted atheist lol


mackiemayerszzz

Good for u, fam


rocketangel08

Wedding videographer here. we all HATE shooting for them they're very rude and also very misogynistic always with the bullshit "Magpasakop ka sa asawa mo sundin mo lahat ng sinasabe nya you don't have a say in the household" type speeches from the pastor or whatever tf they're called


ratasalcedo1949

Iba din ang rules sa kapilya 🤣 sobrang higpit lalo na sa mga videographer. Kulang nalang sabihin na bawal ka pumasok sa loob haha!


rocketangel08

tangina tol true yan ang lagi namen usapan pag dating sa reception tangina bawal sa sides ng groom at bride demonyo pano namen makukuhanan ung dalawa na nag sasagutan?


lunarkremlin1945

Dang I have a seatmate who is a member of INCult, nakakatakot tuloy minsan mag bukas ng reddit kasi member ako ng r/exIglesiaNiCristo kahit di naman ako naging part of that culrlt.


Heisenberg044

Try mo din i-open sa kaniya casually like ask him “totoo ba yung post sa ganito, nabasa ko lang sa reddit”. Baka macurious din, masave siya sa cult. Nung college I shared a post about sa issue ng INC noong Yolanda, doon ko nalaman na ang dami ko palang classmate na INC lol pero cool lang naman sila after that.


Estupida_Ciosa

same, nakakapanghinayabg yung ibang member ng INC na naggroom into hating Catholic kesyo sila daw yung totoo at sila lang ang maliligtas


levelxiii

as a former inc and now atheist, i agree


ZacharyKou

same


stelios_0824

I'd actually argue perhaps even believe that you my friend, an atheist, are more intellectual and wise in terms of religion and science more than most INC members ever will. This is me a Catholic


levelxiii

It was a difficult journey mentally unlearning years of indoctrination. I'd like to think that it's all because of believing for my right of critical thinking that saved me. The one thing that they don't want their members to ever learn, but so important in the real world.


violetbravery

Kumusta na kaya yung mga DDS at BBMers that used to call INC a cult?


Getmeoutofmanila

My biggest flex is wala akong kamag-anak na INC


ttako_

naalala ko yung kwento sakin ng tita ko na college, may isang classmate daw sila dati na tahimik lang tapos medyo walang kumakaibigan. Inc daw yun tapos one day inaya nila kumain kasi kawawa daw, natawa ako don sa part na dapat pala hindi na daw nila kinausap kasi halos lahat ng sinabi niya is pangiinsulto sa mga catholics. Meron din akong kilalang taga inc and ganon din attitude, di ko alam kung inggit lang ba sila sa freedom na meron ang catholics or ano


violetbravery

Panglalait sa mga Katoliko is their entertainment. Trust me, my father watches debates to make his day, what a miserable life.


ttako_

most of them are hypocrites, parang di nila kaya huminga pag di nila nalalait ang mga taga ibang religion lalo na pag katoliko ka. Inc ka din ba?


violetbravery

Opo, gusto kong umalis pero dependent pa rin sa parents. 'Pag nalaman ito ng tatay ko, posibleng palayasin niya ako.


ttako_

ganyan yung classmate ko nung elementary pero sa ibang religion naman, palaging tatay ang issue pag gusto magconvert. I swear, mga tao talagang masyadong devoted to the point na kaya nilang itakwil ang anak nila ang problem at hindi ang mismong religion


aroproblematic

My uncle is a high official thingy (don’t know what its called) sa inc he told us in a family gathering a few months before the election that he was handling the money given by lbm and fiona’s party for the incs , he was the one in charge to distribute it. After the elections his family went on a 3 week vacation somewhere. It was a terrible family gathering.


illustriouslala

I dunno if I should make kwento this to my pinsan hahaha i love her and all pero she's dating an INC. I asked her if she's ready ba talaga to enter INC, she just laughed. Pero she attends now the church 2x a week.


-K--I--A-

Much worse, inc ako and may church duty ako every Monday (Choir practice), Wednesday's(Normal church day), Friday(Pamamahayag), Saturday (Panata) and Sundays. It's exhausting and a complete waste of time.


tearsofyesteryears

That's how cults work, keep members exhausted from so many tasks. Yung mga talagang cult-cult, meron pa ngang sleep deprivation.


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neko_hoarder

I thought they were forbidden from even having a [romantic relationship with a non-INC](https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-Iglesia-ni-Cristo-members-be-in-a-relationship-with-non-members).


MiserableCaregiver60

Sila lang maliligtas. INM dapat yan, Iglesia ni Marcoleta


-K--I--A-

As a fellow trapped member of the INCult, i agree and it's fucked up.


Substantial_March_24

Mga excited at g na g makuha Christmas Bonus kahit wala naman sila pasko 🤡


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Substantial_March_24

Hay naku sinabi mo pa! I have a tita din na nangunguna pa sa papila ng pera kapag pasko tapos kapag sinasama mo sa misa, ayaw kasi INC daw sya 🙄 take note ha, super lakas nya din mag inom eh alam ko “bawal” sa kanila yun.


ot9stagram

I agree. My ex bf was forcing me na magpaconvert into INC kahit 2 months pa lang kaming magjowa noon. Pinagcocompare n'ya pa yung Catholic sa religion n'ya. I had to break up with him because of that.


FringGustavo0204

Isama na rin Kingdom of Jesus Christ ni Quipedoloy.


dodong_starfish

They fancy themselves as the Jewish faith/people knock-off. Ironically, they supported the daughter of the self-declared pirated Hitler. Hahahaha


leronim

as a **trap** INC member, I hate INC too.


maltootlam

Dami hypocrites sa kanila. may mga kakilala akong INC daming extra marital affairs. so yung part na yun pwedeng suwayin pero bloc voting hindi?!?! laughable


navatanelah

Nako panguusig nanaman yan favorite term ng mga INC hahahh


rimuru017

Bisitahin niyo yung exIglesianiCristo subreddit, Masaya doon.. Araw Araw may pasabog


eojlin

Feeling ko hawak nila 'yung mga pinaka-corrupt na government agencies sa bansa via padrino system. Kung maayos na group sila, edi sana maayos din 'yung mga government agencies natin, or at least man lang hindi kasama sa pinaka-corrupt. Isa pa, may kakilala ako, kailangan pa nila mag-lipat bahay para lang makatakas sa religion nila.


LemonRude8025

Kwento ko lang noon may maid kame na inc. originally catholic sya pero nung namasukan sya sa inc family, pinilit sya maconvert. Kaya after nya umalis don at lumipat samin, ayaw nya na magsimba at maging inc. dumating time na sinusundo pa sya samin ng mga naka barong para tanungin bat di sya nag sisimba at parang pinapalabas pa nila na pinipigilan namin mag simba which is nakakainis dahil wala naman kame pake sa kanila


Lanky_Chocolate3781

yacult kasi


NoMatch1909

Isa sa bucket list ko magpa-akay sa INC member tapos kumain ng dinuguan sa loob ng kapilya ng mga kulto <333


jakeyroo004

To be fair, a lot of INC members don't like INC as well. Mga di lang makaalis dahil sa relatives nila. Pakyu Manalo.


Snoo19880

*Iglesia Ng Culto*


its_Jaiku

as an INC, I also hate my own religion


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SKL. Naalala ko tuloy nung college ako. Pumunta kami sa bahay ng classmate namin para tumambay habang gumagawa ng mga assignments. Yung mga kamag-anak pala ng classmate namin is INC. Tapos sila lang nung mama at papa lang niya yung Catholic sa angkan nila pero hindi naman sila ganon ka-religious. Buong hapon na andun kami, kinikwentuhan kami nung mga Tita, Tito at pinsan niya about sa INC. Andaming pang iinsulto sa ibang religion. Sinabi pa samin na kung di kami magpapalit ng religion, hindi daw kami kasali sa masasalba pag dating ng panahon. Diniscribe niya as isang malaking palang gana na lutuan (?), pag napuno daw yun, di na kami ligtas. No comment nalang kami habang nagkukwento sila about sa mga paniniwala nila bilang respeto narin. Yung isang ka-work ko din dati bago mag pandemic, panay absent pag wed, thurs or friday (di ko na maalala) dahil sa obligasyon daw nilang mga INC ang umattend. Pag daw may absent ka parang minus points na daw. Ayun napilitan siyang mag resign. Meron naman dati nung umattend ako ng simba or kung anuman tawag nila dun sa Protestant religion. Medyo parang ayaw nila ako dun kasi tumanggi akong gawin yung mga pinagagawa nila habang nag mimisa. Ayaw kong gawin yung pinagagawa nila kasi baka ma-convert ako ng di ko nalalaman. Andun lang naman ako para suportahan yung friend ko na tumutogtog ng keyboard for choir. Pati siya hindi na rin ako ininvite ulit dun sa church nila. Catholic ako pero not really religious. Last ko atang umattend ng misa bago pa mag pandemic. These days madalas kiniquestion ko narin kung bakit ganito mga pangyayare sa buhay at sa mundo.


Chemical_XYZ

"Aanhin ang pangakong kaligtasan kung mas masarap naman ang dinuguan?" - wise words from Master Oogway


MickeyDMahome

Anyone who is sane will hate or think INC is a cult ridden horsecrap with many obnoxious and dumbass followers


Potatonius

As an INC myself, yes i fucking hate it here. The "Doctrines" are mostly bullshit. Bloc voting is a tactic to secure their power in the Philippines and the general attitude of "im right, your wrong" is so dumb


SignificantRoyal1354

INC put in upon themselves to be hated by other religions in the Philippines. As a former member, part of their doctrine is a lesson dedicated on bashing Catholic and Protestant. Their so-called charity works is more of propaganda. r/exIglesiaNiCristo has been growing because of the younger generations of INC voicing out that they want to leave but are trapped because their parents' standing in the organization will be affected if they stop going to INC 2 x a week worship services.


Batnaman_26

Ex-INC here, I only went into the belly of the beast for a promise of Xbox 360 at the time, i was like 14, and lemme tell ya friends, it is definitely a cult. They kept on saying that there's only one god and that it's - well, God, but everytime the Manalo guy (their leader) was in some teleprompter and i gotta admit it was pretty advanced at the time as we were having zoom preaching using a projector and this was in 2014-2015 - they would bawl their eyes out screaming and crying to heal their diseases and pain and would be ordered to close our eyes during those times of prayers I didn't closed mine as I was observing these crazy ass old people and i keep thinking "this is insane...". The preachings lasted at least in an hour or more (all of them) and it was horrendous, not that they were saying horrible shit or anything like that, it was just entirely boring and it was too much for my 14 year old mind, you can't get up to pee as it was crammed and you had to sit at least one space apart from another guy, if you try to get up and pee people will fucking scowl at you and these officials (jakunos, idk why they're called that) would tell you to go back to your seat, good thing i had good bladder control otherwise i would've made that mahogany seat wear down like a piece of paper. They made some pretty good points in regards to the religion they followed, according to their bible, statues and images of god are forbidden they were obviously dissing the Catholic religion giving more ammunition to the cult members to use when they're converting some poor soul, I gotta admit i was pretty sold on that one as I've always been terrified of rebultos and stuff and it made sense as it was just a piece of wood that people would touch and pray to during the religious holidays, anyways that's the best one they got for me. Another thing that really made it cult-y was whenever someone did a sin (gambling, drinking, adultery) it was sure to be announced after the worship session, and they would mention all these random names and according to their crime and the bishop would suggest that these people should be shunned for their sins, and if one was caught assisting them (financially or emotionally) they'll be shunned too, but they can always come back, they'll be called "Nanlamig" as in they're away from the warmth of the lord. That's my status right now i think, haven't stepped foot in their church for years. The bishops in the cult were loaded and they always had fancy suits on and they always look like the corrupt villains in a TV show that controls the population, in some degree they do. I think the thing I hated the most about INC is during Christmas time they would insist that nothing should be celebrated as it wasn't really Christ's birthday (technically true), but hey i may be an agnostic but I'll be goddamned if i can't get money and eat at a Christmas dinner and sing all these Christmas songs, it's fucking fun. But besides that I think the scummiest thing that they do (and they still do it) is that during election day, the officials will decide which candidate will be picked to be voted (there's obviously some backstage handshaking going on, it was super obvious). As you have witnessed this year, INC had a certain someone's back and obviously landslides the competition as these people are a MOB, one brain organism, spitting the same shit and eating the same shit, individualism was scoffed at that place, men must wear slacks and polos while women dresses and low heel shoes. It was a creep show. This is cringey but i remember one time showing up with my Jordans on and my headphones with no audio from it, just a jack that was stuffed in my pocket connected to no mp3 or phone and these headphones would hang on my neck, just so i can stand out a little, and i remember i would get berated from it cause i would wear it MID WORSHIP and pretend to out some boner jams so if a cute girl looks at me she'll be like "wow that guy is so cool" but it had no audio, it was definitely cringey, but hey i was 14 and this place had no life to it and i was that type of dude back then. Anyway, the inside of the chapel was gorgeous, the chandeliers were huge and there's this choir upfront and no symbols whatsoever, that's all I gotta say about the insides of the chapels. When i reached the age of reason (which was when I started to get REALLY bored of these samba sessions) i stopped coming over as i was focused on my school, plus i already got my Xbox at the time and it was eventually sold to my cousin anyways, they got me a PS3 instead. TL;DR: I became an INC for the promise of an Xbox 360, and yes, it definitely was a cult.


frstrtd_engg-rybird

As an INC, I dislike--no, I loathe INC. A lot of members, like me, who feel trapped inside can fucking relate.


LazyLany

They are a cult. Nothing can change my opinion.


King_Kanabo

Toxic sa loob ng INCult, daming mga iglot dito na hipokrito, cancer, holier-than-thou, tapos mag-aanak-anak tapos kukunsensyahin kapag hindi sinusunod, as of now, bawal na ring ma-depress o hindi ka maliligtas. WWI started on July 27 my ass, kahit mali ipipilit, revisionist cult.


ReclaimRebootRenew

Future Gilead ang Pinas if they take over. If you know, you know.


scorp_seven

Thing is, alam ng lahat pati ng mga kaanib ng INC na magnanakaw sinusuportahan nila. So, let's not make it complicated: INC votes for thieves. So, sino ang isa sa sisisihin? Yung bloc vote syempre.


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One of the best things in life which unfortunately not everyone has, is not being born to parents who are tied up with any cult/crazy religious sect.


fyeahk8

Can't wait for this to be a Netflix documentary 😂


aljonatics

May workmate si mother ko na INC before. Eh may gaganapin na San Roque festival need nila mag participate sa sayaw keme competition. Sabi nila dun sa INC, maghelp naman siya sa props and kung ano mahehelp niya kung di diya sasali sa sayaw mismo. Sabi niya, bawal daw sakanila yung magparticipate sa ganun. ​ Edi sige bawal. Nung nagchampion na sila ang nakakuha ng malaking cash price edi naghahati hati na yung mga nagparticipate, nagagalit yung INC bakit daw wala daw siyang balato haha.


earlrei

They are a different kind of breed.


IcyOrganization8987

CULT on so many levels. Lol


Randomuserguyfren

They're why I became an atheist in the first place. Of course, even christianism I find bullshit now, but INC was the main reason for me to not believe


Phraxtus

You hate them because they are a bloc voting cult I hate them because they are p*otestant heretics We are not the same


Lecty_01

Atheist/INC here and yes, am definitely fed up with this cult and their horseshit quagmire. Tuwing Wednesday at Saturday na lang bad trip ako lagi dahil kinabukasan kailangan ko nanamang putulin ang tulog ko para lang magsayang ng oras para sa walang kapararakang pag upo sa sambahan para makining sa bs ng mga ministro. Ang consolation ko na lang eh yung nakukupit ko yung pang abuloy ko at nadadala ko yung pera sa mas may pakinabang kaysa sa bulsa ni evm. I wish I could steal more abuloy from the church worship service coffers like how Kazuma from Konosuba steals girls' underwear. 🤣


cookiesncream99_

I'm an INC pero lowkey atheist. 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷


fr3nzy821

Naaalala ko yung top 1 namin nung highschool tuwing kinukwento niya yung benefits ng pagiging INC, yung mukha niya di naman masaya. haha.


Marble_Dude

Reminds me of a local INC businessman here. His staff are catholics, pero since siya ay INC hindi na allowed magsimba yung staff niya sa catholic tapos required sila magsimba sa INC. Kung di man niya mapigilan yung pagsimba sa catholic pinag tatrabaho niya sa sundays yung staff niya so they cannot go.


Citron_Express_

They also look like a pyramid scheme


hewhomustnotbenames

Lord baba ka naman dito one-time lang please nang matauhan tong mga kulto na to. 🤣


1nd13mv51cf4n

r/exiglesianicristo


lolomolima

Hello fellow Catholic, haha, sarap nila mabasag sa debate haha


bugsmasherr

I'm antireligion, but I dont dislike anyone in terms of their religious beliefs. I dislike people depending on their attitude and moral principles.


SmudgeNix

I know a lot of people that are otherwise okay naman, matatalino, may paninindigan sa tama, etc... Pero it's really hard to wrap one's head around the fact that they're proudly and wholeheartedly INC. Like... how??? I'm sure they have some sort of perspective that an outsider wouldn't understand, but... the mental gymnastics that I've seen them perform to justify all the bullshit? It just doesn't make sense.


InsomniacIvory

Honestly, ang hirap po i-defend nito HAHAHA but minsan nagkakaroon ako ng thoughts na magpatiwalag na lang. Nakakasakal rin kasi. I live literally next to an INC chapel and so, ginagawa itong rason ng mga kapatid para ayain akong kumuha ng tungkulin. And trust me, I've tried so many times—nag-ensayo akong maging mang-aawit nung bata ako; naging kagawad ng PNK at kalihim nung JHS; pero 'yung social anxiety ko natitrigger tuwing tumutupad ako. Lalo na at hindi ako marunong manalangin, at nakakaramdam ako ng pressure kapag ako ang naatasang mag-lead ng prayer sa mga church activities. Ginamit ko lang na excuse ang quarantine para hindi makatupad pero ngayong lumuluwag na ang lockdown, nararamdaman ko ulit yung pressure na kumuha ng tungkulin not just from fellow church people but from my fam, as well. Ang lapit ko lang daw kasi sa church, samantalang 'yung iba na ang lalayo ng bahay pero kinakayang tumupad. Syempre, nagiguilty ako. INC is also a very patriarchal religious group, and I as a girl feel very uncomfortable hearing preaches about women having to submit to their husbands ("magpasakop kayo sa inyong mga asawa"). There were literally preaches a few months ago about how women should stay quiet and let the husbands rule over the house. That's not the dynamic I want to have if I were to marry—if I even want to marry at this point. May mga iilang INC na rin na sinubukang manligaw sa akin pero ewan ko ba, ang dry ng convos with them. Baka ako rin ang may kagagawan nun dahil wala sa loob ko ang mag-date ng kapwa INC, pero naiinis din kasi ako na puro church activities na lang ang topic kapag sila ang kausap. Idk if may anxiety ako sa religion or what pero ayoko talaga na napapag-usapan ang kahit anong may kinalaman sa church. (That's not to say na wala akong kasundo na INC, but I think it's very telling na mas malapit ang loob ko sa mga INC na hindi gaanong devoted sa church activities kumpara sa mga deeply religious na church, school at bahay lang ang umiiral sa buhay nila.) I also agree with other comments about the guilt-tripping you'll get if natiwalag ka or umalis ka sa pagka-Iglesia. You'll hesitate telling your family members about your problems kasi susumbatan ka nila na "bakit ka kasi nagpatiwalag," or "kung bumalik ka na lang kasi sa pagsamba hindi ka magkakaganyan." Like I get that they say this out of concern pero it's not the right thing to say lalo na kung may pinagdadaanan sa buhay 'yung tao. My parents never forced me too much into church pero I KNOW for a fact na nag-aabang sa akin 'yung ganong klaseng sermon kapag nalaman nila na nag-iisip akong umalis sa pagka-INC—dahil may kutob ako na aroace ako, dahil hindi ko kahiyang ang mga aral sa bibliya at dahil hindi ko maimagine na makakasama ko habang buhay ang isang INC na asawa na may patriarchal mindset. I'm still in college at wala pa akong sariling income (my small business doesn't garner enough for me to live on my own) at natatakot ako sa mangyayari sa akin kapag nawala na ako sa religion na 'yun. Kaya sa ngayon, forda religious muna ang peg natin HAHAHAHA anyway sorry sa rant, di naman halatang may tinik ako sa dibdib na gustong alisin 😩😩


BobaMTea123

Sadly ang laki rin ng influence nila sa PNP in terms of applying, promotion, deployment sa iba't-ibang lugar and kung sino ang uupo sa mga matataas na posisyon (for example: District Director, Regional Director or PNP Chief).


AngBigKid

Alam nyo bang pag di ka nagsimba twice a week sa INCult ay pupuntahan kayo sa tinitirhan mo at tatanungin kung bakit ilang araw ka nang wala? Lecheng galawan.


mattzus69

Filipino Catholic here. I just hope my INC friends leave or convert. I also hope that in the future, that they may marry a non-INC so they can be finally free of all opression.


MrsAdobo

I hate all inc. feeling better sila at napaka daming shit sinasabi almost everytime sila mag salita.